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2010-03-22 12:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
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TriMyBest - 2010-03-22 12:24 PM I've never used tubulars.  Is there a difference in the time it takes to switch out a flat?
Yeah, tubulars are slightly faster to change out. Now ask if there's a price difference for replacing parts when you flat


Im assuming you mean that flatting on tubulars grinds the carbon/rims to a pulp?


2010-03-22 12:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
DanielG - 2010-03-22 12:11 PM
TriMyBest - 2010-03-22 12:24 PM I've never used tubulars.  Is there a difference in the time it takes to switch out a flat?
Yeah, tubulars are slightly faster to change out. Now ask if there's a price difference for replacing parts when you flat


is there a price difference for replacing parts when you flat?

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i race in clinchers but would love to have a pair of nice tubular zipps say 808 / 1080 combo. 

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2010-03-22 12:25 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
nhunter344 - 2010-03-22 2:13 PM

Im assuming you mean that flatting on tubulars grinds the carbon/rims to a pulp?


No, you can actually ride a flat tubular for quite a distance without destroying your rims - clinchers on the otherhand won't stand up well to that at all.

The price difference comes from the replacement - flat a clincher and you are out $2 (butyl tube) to $10 (latex tube).  Flat a tubular and you need an entire new tire which will run you at least $20 and likely more if you want a high quality tubular.

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2010-03-22 12:27 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
gsmacleod - 2010-03-22 12:25 PM
nhunter344 - 2010-03-22 2:13 PM

Im assuming you mean that flatting on tubulars grinds the carbon/rims to a pulp?


No, you can actually ride a flat tubular for quite a distance without destroying your rims - clinchers on the otherhand won't stand up well to that at all.

The price difference comes from the replacement - flat a clincher and you are out $2 (butyl tube) to $10 (latex tube).  Flat a tubular and you need an entire new tire which will run you at least $20 and likely more if you want a high quality tubular.

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yeah i will say more then $20.  if you ride something decent like a gp4000.  aren't they like 60-70. 
2010-03-22 12:30 PM
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trix - 2010-03-22 2:27 PM

yeah i will say more then $20.  if you ride something decent like a gp4000.  aren't they like 60-70. 


My race wheels have Vittoria Evo CX tires mounted which I believe I picked up from ProBikeKit for around $45/tire and I have two Vittoria Rallys that I have for spares that were $20/tire.  However, if I were to buy from my LBS my Evo's would have cost about $80/tire.

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2010-03-22 12:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
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DanielG - 2010-03-22 1:11 PM
TriMyBest - 2010-03-22 12:24 PM I've never used tubulars.  Is there a difference in the time it takes to switch out a flat?
Yeah, tubulars are slightly faster to change out. Now ask if there's a price difference for replacing parts when you flat


Im assuming you mean that flatting on tubulars grinds the carbon/rims to a pulp?


As said above, components. Roughly $5 for clinchers, tube, and $50 for tubulars, tube and tire. Yeah, there are bargains to be had and there are expensive tubes but that's about the difference in replacing the parts.


2010-03-22 12:39 PM
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What's the lightest tubular tire? I need one for my spare kit.
2010-03-22 1:02 PM
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Oh boy....stupid question alert.  Do you even attempt to glue on the new tire after you flat?  Is this the reason for possibly rolling the tire off the rim? 
2010-03-22 5:03 PM
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2010-03-22 5:05 PM
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I find braking on a carbon rim not nearly as good as a clincher rim just in general....but I don't race in the rain.


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2010-03-22 6:32 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
jgerbodegrant - 2010-03-22 2:02 PM

Oh boy....stupid question alert.  Do you even attempt to glue on the new tire after you flat?  Is this the reason for possibly rolling the tire off the rim? 


Light coat of glue on the tire at home before you leave, and it'll be fine with just air pressure. You can probably just use air pressure to hold the tire on, without glue, and be fine with just the leftover glue on the rim.
2010-03-22 8:11 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
bryancd - 2010-03-22 12:39 PM What's the lightest tubular tire? I need one for my spare kit.

The Vittoria Crono Evo CS is sick-light (165 grams) and according to the latest report on biketechreview they have very low rolling resistance.  They're not going to be as durable as a training tire, but for racing . . .


I'm putting Continental GP's or Competition on my new HED's, I've got YellowJersey specials on my "training" Reynolds tubulars.  At 3 for 50 bucks it's hard to go wrong.



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2010-04-15 2:33 PM
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Subject: RE: Clincher vs. Tubular Wheel set weight
How about tubulars with an 80g can of pit stop and skip the spare?

You also get the aero savings of not carrying the extra tire.

That's my plan on Oly or shorter races. For half or full (in the future) I'll carry an extra tubular. 
2010-04-15 2:47 PM
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I've been reading the ethernet debate on clincher vs. tubular since I stumbled on my first triathlon website, lo these many years ago...

I still can not make up my mind.


2010-04-15 3:35 PM
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alltom1 - 2010-04-15 2:47 PM I've been reading the ethernet debate on clincher vs. tubular since I stumbled on my first triathlon website, lo these many years ago... I still can not make up my mind.


I think that is the point - there really isn't a right answer to this one.

I ride tubulars, but decided not on the tires but rather a killer deal on a set of zipp 1080/808 wheels. They were tubular rims, so that was my choice. I think I would have preferred that they were clinchers, but it was too good a deal to pass up. 
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