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2011-07-13 8:00 AM

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Subject: Norman Stadler emergency heart surgery

(Translated from German) - http://is.gd/5lPH1b

Wow.  I seem to recall Torbjørn Sindballe also had to retire due to heart issues a few years back.  Makes you wonder if there is a connection to the sport or just coincidence that both fo these top level guys had underlying genetic problems.

Also wonder if this can explain Norman's lack of results the last few years?



2011-07-13 8:31 AM
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Scary. Didn't a third former iron-distance pro have to retire/ return to shorter distances because of a heart problem a few years ago? I'm drawing a blank on his name, but I think he was either Australian or American.

2011-07-13 8:37 AM
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Best wishes to Normann for a speedy recovery.

It will be interesting to hear the details as they are released.  Fixing the aneurysm would have been the critical issue.

I had heart surgery ten years ago to replace my congenital biscupid aortic valve.   Although my condition was first diagnosed at five years old I had no restrictions on my activities and experienced no symptoms until age 47.  In some cases people can live their entire life with no problems.  It is also common for valves to deteriorate as folks reach their
40's, so at 38 Stadler is in that range.

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2011-07-13 9:27 AM
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Shop Cat - 2011-07-13 9:31 AM

Scary. Didn't a third former iron-distance pro have to retire/ return to shorter distances because of a heart problem a few years ago? I'm drawing a blank on his name, but I think he was either Australian or American.

I believe it was Greg Welch who retired suddenly after he was diagnosed with a heart problem.  Can't recall the details, though.

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2011-07-13 9:35 AM
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Anditrigirl - 2011-07-13 10:27 AM
Shop Cat - 2011-07-13 9:31 AM

Scary. Didn't a third former iron-distance pro have to retire/ return to shorter distances because of a heart problem a few years ago? I'm drawing a blank on his name, but I think he was either Australian or American.

I believe it was Greg Welch who retired suddenly after he was diagnosed with a heart problem.  Can't recall the details, though.

Andi

Out of curiosity, I went to his website.  At this link here is mentions that "Greg was forced to abruptly retire because of a condition that caused his heartbeat to frighteningly race up to 300 beats per minute; Sian, too, retired to focus on Greg; Greg underwent seven heart surgeries, each lasting 5-8 hours; (Since going on new medication 16 months ago, Greg’s heart condition has been under control.) "

2011-07-13 1:07 PM
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RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 9:37 AM Best wishes to Normann for a speedy recovery.

It will be interesting to hear the details as they are released.  Fixing the aneurysm would have been the critical issue.

 

Aneurysms don't necessarily require surgery and there doesn't appear to be a true way to "fix" them as the grafts tend to be a temporary fix.  If his aneurysm was close to his heart (which it sounds like it was), that is a VERY risky surgery so him surviving the surgery itself is a pretty big deal.

He is definitely done with athletic competition.  Aneurysms run in my family and they have significant limitations on their lifestyle.  I hope he finds something that provides as much enjoyment and challenge as triathlons have been for him.



2011-07-13 1:15 PM
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RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 9:37 AM Best wishes to Normann for a speedy recovery.

It will be interesting to hear the details as they are released.  Fixing the aneurysm would have been the critical issue.

 

Aneurysms don't necessarily require surgery and there doesn't appear to be a true way to "fix" them as the grafts tend to be a temporary fix.  If his aneurysm was close to his heart (which it sounds like it was), that is a VERY risky surgery so him surviving the surgery itself is a pretty big deal.

He is definitely done with athletic competition.  Aneurysms run in my family and they have significant limitations on their lifestyle.  I hope he finds something that provides as much enjoyment and challenge as triathlons have been for him.



Being polite as I can, all I can say is that you're drawing a lot of unfounded conclusions at this point.

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2011-07-13 1:17 PM
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I'm a big fan of the guy. I hope he bounces back quickly. He's a nice lad and a great cyclist as well as triathlete.

Here is a photo I shot of him in Thailand at the Laguna Phuket Triathlon:

2011-07-13 1:23 PM
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where did it say that he had an aneurism?
2011-07-13 1:24 PM
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Tom Demerly. - 2011-07-14 3:17 AM

I'm a big fan of the guy. I hope he bounces back quickly. He's a nice lad and a great cyclist as well as triathlete.

Here is a photo I shot of him in Thailand at the Laguna Phuket Triathlon:

Great pic!

I hope he recovers quickly and wish him grace and strength in the months ahead whatever the outcome is.

2011-07-13 1:43 PM
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crazyalaskian - 2011-07-13 2:07 PM

RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 9:37 AM Best wishes to Normann for a speedy recovery.

It will be interesting to hear the details as they are released.  Fixing the aneurysm would have been the critical issue.

 

Aneurysms don't necessarily require surgery and there doesn't appear to be a true way to "fix" them as the grafts tend to be a temporary fix.  If his aneurysm was close to his heart (which it sounds like it was), that is a VERY risky surgery so him surviving the surgery itself is a pretty big deal.

He is definitely done with athletic competition.  Aneurysms run in my family and they have significant limitations on their lifestyle.  I hope he finds something that provides as much enjoyment and challenge as triathlons have been for him.



Being polite as I can, all I can say is that you're drawing a lot of unfounded conclusions at this point.

Mark

I could absolutely be wrong and I honestly hope that is the case but unless this was a freakish aneurysm, there is the potential for another one to develop somewhere else along the aorta.  So the course of treatment generally is to limit blood pressure (drugs and avoiding heat and stressful activities).  I have three family members with aortic aneurysms so my post only reflects my neurosis on the matter.



2011-07-13 1:48 PM
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FELTGood - 2011-07-13 2:23 PM where did it say that he had an aneurism?


It was in the original article that was linked to the post.  

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2011-07-13 1:56 PM
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Get well soon, Norman.
2011-07-13 1:59 PM
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RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 2:15 PM
crazyalaskian - 2011-07-13 2:07 PM

RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 9:37 AM Best wishes to Normann for a speedy recovery.

It will be interesting to hear the details as they are released.  Fixing the aneurysm would have been the critical issue.

 

Aneurysms don't necessarily require surgery and there doesn't appear to be a true way to "fix" them as the grafts tend to be a temporary fix.  If his aneurysm was close to his heart (which it sounds like it was), that is a VERY risky surgery so him surviving the surgery itself is a pretty big deal.

He is definitely done with athletic competition.  Aneurysms run in my family and they have significant limitations on their lifestyle.  I hope he finds something that provides as much enjoyment and challenge as triathlons have been for him.



Being polite as I can, all I can say is that you're drawing a lot of unfounded conclusions at this point.

Mark

I could absolutely be wrong and I honestly hope that is the case but unless this was a freakish aneurysm, there is the potential for another one to develop somewhere else along the aorta.  So the course of treatment generally is to limit blood pressure (drugs and avoiding heat and stressful activities).  I have three family members with aortic aneurysms so my post only reflects my neurosis on the matter.



Fair enough.  Not knowing any more facts about Stadler's situation than what we do, all we can do is extrapolate our own experiences.  My perspective/experience just happens to be different than yours.  I've actually undergone aortic valve replacement and repair to the base of my aorta, so that's my base of reference.  I'm not on any medication other than Coumadin and have no restrictions on my activities.

As I mentioned earlier, I actually started triathlon training after my heart surgery, with my cardiologist's blessing.

Hopefully we'll learn more about Stadler's condition in the near future.  Until then we're just speculating.

Just hoping for a good outcome for Normann at this point.

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2011-07-13 2:36 PM
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Scary.  Hope he recovers quickly.
2011-07-13 3:00 PM
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Aneurysms of the ascending aorta and the aortic arch are a much different animal than your typical aneurysm of the descending aorta. Repair of such is a formidable procedure due to the proximity of the aortic valve, and the carotid and subclavian artery branches.

My wife's mother underwent a 12 hour operation to repair an aneurysm of her aortic arch, and eventually succumbed to post op complications.


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Holy smokes. SEVEN surgeries? Seems like he's weathering it well, though.
2011-07-13 3:56 PM
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RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 2:48 PM
FELTGood - 2011-07-13 2:23 PM where did it say that he had an aneurism?


It was in the original article that was linked to the post.  

Mark

 

maybe my computer is not opening the entire article because its only talking about a heart valve....but regardless i hope he can recover and race soon

2011-07-13 4:24 PM
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FELTGood - 2011-07-13 5:03 PM

RedCorvette - 2011-07-13 2:48 PM
FELTGood - 2011-07-13 2:23 PM where did it say that he had an aneurism?


It was in the original article that was linked to the post.  

Mark

 

maybe my computer is not opening the entire article because its only talking about a heart valve....but regardless i hope he can recover and race soon



ST has an article on their main page or just Google "Normann Stadler".

Mark
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