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2011-10-08 11:33 AM
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Socks - 2011-10-07 6:12 PM
Kermat89 - 2011-10-07 12:40 PM    You could always try taking it a little easier on the bike and maybe you would do better on the run with fresher legs.  My first ever triathlon I was passing people left and right (actually only left) on the bike but could hardly finish the run.  I have since then learned to pace (which for me is holding back on the swim and bike and letting it all go half-way through the run!  Try it in training a few times, it can't hurt.
I could go 10MPH on the bike and my run would still suck.  My stand alone 1/2 mary PR is a blistering 2:17

See....this is why this kind of talk is so non-productive. My stand alone 1/2 mary PR is 2:18:59. (Actually, I hit 2:17 and change at the half mark of my 26.2, so I consider that to be my PR.) I was super proud of that time. I know it wasn't the intention, but it does sting a little to think, "Yay! 2:17!" and then see someone else pooh-poohing that time.

This is why I'm not a fan of self-deprecating humor...because the thing you deprecate may be the same thing that someone else is incredibly proud to achieve!!

 

I am running a half tomorrow and will be Happy! to get 2:18!  My time for my last 2 has been 2:22 (yep exactly same time for last 2)...Nothing like consistency....I have had different run strategies (run faster in second half, go out faster etc...)  But, it is always the same time...Now I own it, it's my time!  I feel great regardless because I am ou there doing it!  I am moving and smiling and feeling energized not to mention inspiring others to do the same!

 

No poo-pooing here!  Wink



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2011-10-08 1:22 PM
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TheClaaaw - 2011-10-07 8:53 PM

Socks - 2011-10-07 6:12 PM
Kermat89 - 2011-10-07 12:40 PM    You could always try taking it a little easier on the bike and maybe you would do better on the run with fresher legs.  My first ever triathlon I was passing people left and right (actually only left) on the bike but could hardly finish the run.  I have since then learned to pace (which for me is holding back on the swim and bike and letting it all go half-way through the run!  Try it in training a few times, it can't hurt.
I could go 10MPH on the bike and my run would still suck.  My stand alone 1/2 mary PR is a blistering 2:17

Dude, you can go 10 mph on the bike? And you call it slow? Do I have to start a new thread on slow biking?

Actually, my first tri had a beast of one hill on a 12 mile course. I averaged 9.2 mph since I walked the bike up the hill and hit 27.5 on the downhill. I went out today to try to redo the course so I could pedal the whole thing instead of walking it. I got partway up the hill and the road was closed for a bridge out that would have required a Dukes of Hazzard move to get over, so I turned around and came back. Felt like I had a good ride. Avg mph - 13. Getting there.



DDDOOOOOD I said I was a slow RUNNER not a slow BIKER.    Plus I live in the flatlands and litterally have NO hills.  Now Wind I got wind. 
2011-10-08 1:29 PM
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HAHA I think I run more slowly than all of you.

Actually right now I *really* run more slowly than all of you, because I'm not running at all. Might try some light strolling next week, maybe with a dog at the end of a rope.

2011-10-08 3:39 PM
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Don't worry, Yanti, I am still slower.  Getting passed by the 70 year old speedwalkers at the half mary slow.  Which is why I should never read these threads -- it seems less of a pity party and more of a see how fast my slow is.
2011-10-09 5:33 PM
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Socks - 2011-10-07 6:12 PM
Kermat89 - 2011-10-07 12:40 PM    You could always try taking it a little easier on the bike and maybe you would do better on the run with fresher legs.  My first ever triathlon I was passing people left and right (actually only left) on the bike but could hardly finish the run.  I have since then learned to pace (which for me is holding back on the swim and bike and letting it all go half-way through the run!  Try it in training a few times, it can't hurt.
I could go 10MPH on the bike and my run would still suck.  My stand alone 1/2 mary PR is a blistering 2:17

 

Just PR'd my half today and was 2:17 also!!!!  10 km split was 1:04...WooHoo!  Also a PR...That makes me 5 min faster than 6 months ago...

2011-10-09 9:21 PM
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Loving this thread! When I started triathlons three years ago, I was around a 10, 10:30 pace. With three years of experience (admittedly, no smart training), I've managed to get slower. I've definitely upped my miles (two half marathons the last year), and have focused more on distance than speed.

Oh, well. I just have a great time doing this stuff. The way I see it, I'm still faster than the folks sitting on the couch.



2011-10-10 2:33 PM
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I'm not having a pity party... I'm celebrating my first marathon at a blazing 6:43 @ Chicago yesterday.

I just look at it this way. It leaves plenty of room for a big PR next time. Although in my defense I didn't train for this, didn't know I was doing it until a few weeks ago (won an entry), and am still recovering from IM... So I can run slightly faster then my time indicates, but I would still have been looking at a slow 5:30-6:30 Mary in the best of cases.

Slow is frustrating at times, but slow is better then not being able to run at all.

2011-10-10 2:47 PM
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2011-10-10 4:20 PM
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I think slowness is all about the person. I am a strong swimmer avg 1:20 per 100 and avg bike 21mph and running is my slowest out of all the parts. i am around 8:50 mm so slow for me is 10mm however when i race with friends i am the slow one in the group. So it depends on each person......... I am sure your going to be a rocket...
2011-10-13 11:56 AM
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This epic thread slipped to the third page, and was in danger of disappearing. I cannot let that happen.

So, I'll post my achievement for today in a place that a few people will appreciate it.

I did my longest run ever today. 8 miles. 8.05 exactly. I did it in under 2 hours, barely. I was thrilled on Tuesday to do 4 miles at a solid sub 15:30 pace. Today I went out the same initial 2 mile climb (cat 5 according to mapmyrun), then did a new loop, and nailed down a 14:53 average for the whole run, with the 5th mile at 13:58 and really pushing the 8th mile at 13:16.

This was a huge breakthrough for me, in both distance and speed. Here's the route to show the average Central PA rolling hills run where I live. 

I cranked up the Tool on the mp3 at the start of the run instead of the end, and ended on Foo Fighters. Now that I did my 8 mile, I guess I have to kick back with some Eminem.

2011-10-13 12:20 PM
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Great job Claw!!

I'm in the process of kind of starting over, 1-3 miles running daily.  I'm going to see if there is something to this consistent running and building up to it to see if I can get over my injury bugs.  Of course I'll have to go back to ground zero in December when I have ankle surgery.  Eh, what else do I have to do, right?



2011-10-13 12:25 PM
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turtlegirl - 2011-10-14 2:20 AM

Great job Claw!!

I'm in the process of kind of starting over, 1-3 miles running daily.  I'm going to see if there is something to this consistent running and building up to it to see if I can get over my injury bugs.  Of course I'll have to go back to ground zero in December when I have ankle surgery.  Eh, what else do I have to do, right?

Base don't die. You got base and anything consistent you're doing now is adding to it. It comes back much faster after time out.

2011-10-13 12:40 PM
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let's hope!  I was told 6-8 weeks recovery.  I was running 1 month after knee surgery, but I've got no experience with ankles. I am getting a bit of bone sawed down though Surprised
2011-10-13 1:14 PM
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turtlegirl - 2011-10-14 2:40 AM let's hope!  I was told 6-8 weeks recovery.  I was running 1 month after knee surgery, but I've got no experience with ankles. I am getting a bit of bone sawed down though Surprised

Can you aquajog once the sutures heal up?

2011-10-13 1:29 PM
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Definition of slow:  when you have to ask the racers, as they go back to their cars, where the finish line was before they took it down, and then you go over there and cross the former but now imaginary finish line.  And are happy about it.

Definition of fast:  making it to the finish line before they take it down.

Anything else is irrelevant.

~~ kate

2011-10-13 1:33 PM
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Irnwmn - 2011-10-14 3:29 AM

Definition of slow:  when you have to ask the racers, as they go back to their cars, where the finish line was before they took it down, and then you go over there and cross the former but now imaginary finish line.  And are happy about it.

Definition of fast:  making it to the finish line before they take it down.

Anything else is irrelevant.

~~ kate

Kate, you rock.

You put my feelings about it into words perfectly.



2011-10-13 1:36 PM
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Fast is when you finish the race, get home, showered, and dressed before the start of your club's post-race BBQ. Slow is when you're stuck with no roll and one piece of overcooked mystery meat, and all the cookies are gone!
2011-10-13 1:40 PM
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Irnwmn - 2011-10-13 1:29 PM

Definition of slow:  when you have to ask the racers, as they go back to their cars, where the finish line was before they took it down, and then you go over there and cross the former but now imaginary finish line.  And are happy about it.

Definition of fast:  making it to the finish line before they take it down.

Anything else is irrelevant.

~~ kate

OMG I didn't realize until now that I'm "slow". I was DLF at a race this April, and yes they took the finish line down! It was dark and they just said shouted to me as I rounded the corner "Run to the light!". The "missing" finish line should've been my first clue. Laughing And I smile because I AM prouder of that finish that any other race to date.

2011-10-13 1:43 PM
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I love it when I am 3 miles from the finish of a long race and I start seeing people who clearly ran the race, had their post-race nosh, and are jogging back on the course for their cooldown trip.  They probably ran from home and are running roughly twice the distance I am suffering through that day. 

I ran a race last year (7 miler cross-country that took 1:45 due to ankle twist and general difficult) and by the time I finished, got my snacks, walked about 1 mile back to the hotel, hosed my shoes outside -  my carmate was already back to the hotel, showered, and coiffed. 

2011-10-13 4:06 PM
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i have never considered myself a "runner", i run....i usually do 9:30-10:30mm; i work with 2 girls who are at least 10 years younger than me, who always want me to run with them....problem is they run < 8:00mm; one of them has qualified for the boston marathon 2 times now and has run it once; she just ran a 3:35 marathon a few weekends ago, i finished a half marathon in 2:45.....i can only imagine trying to run with them...lol
2011-10-13 4:44 PM
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I'm not sure if I'm eligible to join the slow runners club but I feel like a slow runner. I also get passed non stop on the run leg. I'm usually one of the first out of the water and hold my own on the bike but then get passed a ton on the run.


2011-10-13 9:08 PM
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turtlegirl - 2011-10-14 2:20 AM

Great job Claw!!

I'm in the process of kind of starting over, 1-3 miles running daily.  I'm going to see if there is something to this consistent running and building up to it to see if I can get over my injury bugs.  Of course I'll have to go back to ground zero in December when I have ankle surgery.  Eh, what else do I have to do, right?

Base don't die. You got base and anything consistent you're doing now is adding to it. It comes back much faster after time out.



Although not as fast as one might think or wish. Not That I've tested that (cough).

Actually having taken 4 months off last fall... I was able to hop back into running without having to re-learn how to run like I did the first time, but wasn't able to get back to my previous running fitness level. That may have more to do with the style of training I was given to follow this time around though.

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2011-10-14 4:12 AM
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COSkiGirl - 2011-10-04 10:24 AM I'm faster than I was and I'm faster than the person who isn't out there at all. 

 

LOVE this.  I am also in the super slow club. I started running in March and I was doing about 16min/miles. At a half last weekend I averaged 13:52s and I was THRILLED. Beyond thrilled really....I felt so fast  It was a 1:13min/mi improvement from my very first half 4 weeks ago, and I was so stoked.  If I never get faster, but keep going further and start doing triathlons, I would still be thrilled. I tell myself sometimes that being slow lets me enjoy the scenery. Those fast runners probably miss out on all of the cool spectators and signs that say things like "Chuck Norris Never Ran a Marathon".


TheClaaw....you are my hero. Consider this a virtual high five.

2011-10-14 6:49 AM
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COSkiGirl - 2011-10-04 10:24 AM I'm faster than I was and I'm faster than the person who isn't out there at all. 

 

LOVE this.  I am also in the super slow club. I started running in March and I was doing about 16min/miles. At a half last weekend I averaged 13:52s and I was THRILLED. Beyond thrilled really....I felt so fast  It was a 1:13min/mi improvement from my very first half 4 weeks ago, and I was so stoked.  If I never get faster, but keep going further and start doing triathlons, I would still be thrilled. I tell myself sometimes that being slow lets me enjoy the scenery. Those fast runners probably miss out on all of the cool spectators and signs that say things like "Chuck Norris Never Ran a Marathon".


TheClaaw....you are my hero. Consider this a virtual high five.

Thanks - here's a high five back. I have an anecdote about how being a slow runner can benefit when you catch the scenery.

I did a tri in August, which was all on the beach. Hilton Head SC. Biking on the hard sand pack was new to me. Anyway, on the run, within the first 2 tenths of a mile, I spotted a sand dollar. I have been going to the beach every year since I was born, and I've never found a sand dollar. (I never got to the shoreline early in the morning before all the other tourists I suppose.)

I picked that thing up and carried it the whole 3 miles to the finish, to give it to my daughter as a memento of going to watch Daddy race at the beach. If I were a fast runner, I never would have noticed it or thought to pick it up.

There's a triathlete I met at the Y who does the half and full distances. I know he trains seriously, and I could believe he was in contention for AG, but when I asked him about whether he was going for podium goals, he said something I liked, which definitely applies more to me than him: "it's expensive to enter these races and they give you up to 17 hours on the course. I try to get my money's worth."

2011-10-14 7:01 AM
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TheClaaaw - 2011-10-14 6:49 AM

  • ..I picked that thing up and carried it the whole 3 miles to the finish, to give it to my daughter as a memento of going to watch Daddy race at the beach. If I were a fast runner, I never would have noticed it or thought to pick it up.

    There's a triathlete I met at the Y who does the half and full distances. I know he trains seriously, and I could believe he was in contention for AG, but when I asked him about whether he was going for podium goals, he said something I liked, which definitely applies more to me than him: "it's expensive to enter these races and they give you up to 17 hours on the course. I try to get my money's worth."



  • I like that outlook, "get my money's worth". I've decided that between that and giving the sanddollar to your daughter, you are one of the coolest people I've never met. I like your perspective. This thread never fails to start my day off on the right foot, thanks again.
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