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2011-12-27 4:03 PM
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yes, self education is the key as this really is a condition that is pretty much out there when it comes to average doctors knowledge which is why its taken me 9, no wait 10 years, from when this first surfaced to be in a position to get this resolved. IMHO steer clear of mesh thats been my major reason why its taken me so long but finding the person to diagnose you in the first place is the major problem. The person i am talking about, and i am deliberately not name dropping as i dont promote anyone, does come to the states to lecture and teach surgeons and i know of many people who have been diagnosed for free while they have been in the states so you can mail them and find out their schedule.

the guy is also a girl



2011-12-27 11:00 PM
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chewymix - 2011-12-24 5:04 AM

 are you talking about Cattey? Personally he is not on my list of go to people for this that said the no.1 is probably on the wrong side of the pond for you but there are many NFL, NBA and MLS guys that travel to get the right treatment. One example of many


http://www.jagpt.com/docs/Could%20operation%20benefit%20McNabb.pdf


Is the method of repair in this link something like the Shouldice technique?
2011-12-28 4:05 AM
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Yes, she has refined the technique over the years, that paper was from 2005 IIRC so her numbers are now more like 20,000 and the main focus from her is about only messing with the tissues that are defective, when i say tissues i include nerves in that statement, which is why her return to sport is seemingly so much quicker than many other surgeons.

If you are in .ca then you have pure tissue options open to you, there is also someone in Vegas that does pure tissue repairs with good results also AFAIK. I am sure there are others just not on my radar.

2011-12-28 11:25 AM
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chewymix - 2011-12-27 4:03 PM

 

the guy is also a girl

 

ha ha...you are right

2011-12-29 2:39 PM
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chewymix - 2011-12-27 4:03 PM

yes, self education is the key as this really is a condition that is pretty much out there when it comes to average doctors knowledge which is why its taken me 9, no wait 10 years, from when this first surfaced to be in a position to get this resolved. IMHO steer clear of mesh thats been my major reason why its taken me so long but finding the person to diagnose you in the first place is the major problem. The person i am talking about, and i am deliberately not name dropping as i dont promote anyone, does come to the states to lecture and teach surgeons and i know of many people who have been diagnosed for free while they have been in the states so you can mail them and find out their schedule.

the guy is also a girl

Just curious..what have you been doing for the past 9 years?  Have you been able to train, compete, or do anything?  You said you have compression issue with a nerve...does that mean it's different than a sports hernia (tear?)?

2011-12-29 4:07 PM
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yes i have been able to swim and bike and run but i have always had discomfort of one sort or another, i just zoned it out while still trying to figure it out, while still believing it wasnt in my head.

The nerve compression comes from the weakened posterior wall of the inguinal canal, it might be a tear in some people where in others it might be lax enough to cause a compression but not actually breached. If the tear gets big enough you might end up with intestine/bowel filling the cavity and so suffer from a more traditional inguinal hernia as there may well be a lump/bulge. One thing to note is that in athletes as they generally have an increased muscle tone even with a breached wall there might not be a bulge which is why this takes so long to diagnose as most doctors believe no bulge no 'hernia'. The term hernia is also a bit of a misnomer in the absence of a bulge which is why my doc referrers to it as 'Sportsmans Groin' to deliberately not use the term hernia as that can muddy the waters in some peoples mind. My long standing side is still a SH but my younger side has since progressed into a more traditional inguinal, in that sometimes you can see a bulge of some sort, although most of the time you cant. All this is clear to see though on a dynamic ultrasound. Has anyone ever checked you for a dialated inguinal ring? If they havent and they claim to know about SH's then i'd question their authority on the matter. Its not a fun thing to be checked for thats for sure but if muscle weakness/breach is causing the pain its one test that will tell you in about 5 seconds flat!



2011-12-29 8:55 PM
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Good info. I can't run.  Bike and swim...no problem.  Run...not a chance.  About 4 steps in it gets bad.  If my life depended on it, sure I could run.  But I can't do anything of substance in the run department.  Very frustrating.  If this doesn't get fixed, my running career could very well be done.  I will look into the dilated inguinal ring...
2011-12-30 4:39 AM
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biking was the worst for me and swimming the best, running was OK but sore however the biggest problem with running was that the 'groin' would tighten up very quickly into a run due to irritation which meant i had to think about relaxing it to try to get to the end. Biking squashed the inguinal canal so much that anything i did could not make it better.

2012-01-26 6:07 PM
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to chewymix: I have a question about the nerve block. I had it done yesterday and so far no change and was cleared to work the following day, but I fear that i have re-injured the hernia today with a very heavy lift at work. My question is this: did you have a palpable lump or bulge near where it was placed? if not i fear that i my have another hernia.  I work as a paramedic and lifting heavy loads is normal. My other fear is that the nerve block may be masking the big issue.  i'm making an appt with the dr.

Thanks!

2012-01-28 6:01 PM
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never had a buldge where the nerve block went in no and for me i got shot up perhaps 3 parts along the inguinal ligament so higher up than the hernia is. Maybe you are just seeing some swelling as a result of the injection site?

2012-01-29 3:17 PM
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Thanks chewy.  I was slightly swollen after the block but didn't have the buldge. its been 4 days now since that heavy lift and still no difference but still alot of pain in the area. I've been doing some research about side effect from a nerve block and have found nothing stating that about swelling like a lump. Fingers crossed it's nothing. 


2012-01-30 12:14 PM
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about the only side effects of a nerve block into the inguinal region i know of is a punctured bowel and i think after all this time if you had that you'd know about it. I suppose its possibly another hernia or maybe something else, not sure, sorry!
2012-04-04 3:41 AM
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so how you guys getting on? Cant say that i would go and see them as a first port of call but this gives a decent account into actually what the problem is and why mesh doesnt fix it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xrK6b1Rbp8

2012-07-17 9:54 PM
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Thanks chewy! 

That link was great and very informative. Still no relief to with the issue. I'm being refered to another dr either pain specialist or surgeon from the neurologist. This all came about today, waiting on a call back. Not sure where to go at this point. Thank you again for the link, of all the reseatch i have done that was by far the most informative. 

2012-07-20 12:20 PM
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I'm late to the thread but I had a sports hernia diagnosed in Jan and repaired in March. I put off the surgery for 3 months to train and race in a Kona Oly. During this time the hernia progressed and the surgeon recommended open surgery due my relatively young age, triathlon lifestyle, and ability to better repair it. In addition, his advice was that open surgery would provide a much lower risk of residual pain and nerve impairment.At 6 weeks I was back to swimming, 8 weeks running, and 10 weeks biking. I did a bit of each earlier but this represents being back to full training. I still have a bit of numbness and can feel the mesh, which is a strange sensation, but no pain nor has it inhibited my training/racing.Best of luck to you all!
2012-12-02 8:08 PM
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So here is an update to what i last posted a few months back. I have ultimately ended up having another surgery after having nerve blocks which were successful for about a day. The surgery consisted of clipping the nerves and removing a small portion of the mesh that had a fiberous growth on it. Now at 4 1/2 weeks post op still having some of the same pain. I have asked this before, has anyone ever tried accupuncture for pain or pain of this kind?  Or is this something i will just have to live with? 

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2012-12-02 9:05 PM
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I had a sports hernia (inguinal). Went to a couple docs and they didn't have a clue because I didn't have a lump. It was more painful the first couple of weeks. I was limping bad. I ran a marathon with it. After a few months I finally found a doc that "thought" it was a hernia as well. He cut me open and did a mesh repair. I'm a female and was back to running just over a week later (not fast). 2 days after my surgery I walked a couple of slow miles and build from there. It took over year to do certain things that wouldn't aggrevate the area or bother me (leg lifts, pulls ups, etc) but I could run and bike. I feel fine most of the time now, but have a little strange feeling (no pain though) in that area if I do a pull up or something. Good luck. Most secretaries didn't even know what a sports hernia was when I called and I found myself explaining what the issue was. I rolled my eyes every time I called in to a location. I did find someone in Cleveland, OH that specialized in this issue, but my insurance didn't cover it. Feel free to PM me if you have any other questions
2012-12-03 6:01 PM
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nerve irritation can take a while to settle - certainly longer than 4.5 weeks especially if you've been through a couple of surgeries on the area and you have been irritating a nerve directly with scar tissue.

give it time i think

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