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2014-08-05 6:50 PM
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I really wish I would have consulted with this group first. ?? I paid a deposit already but may still be worth looking into. Thanks.


2014-08-05 7:43 PM
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Originally posted by midwesttrimom I really wish I would have consulted with this group first. ?? I paid a deposit already but may still be worth looking into. Thanks.
  Seriously cramped crappy hotel room (and unless they have renovated since last year I mean CRAPPY)   with your whole family squashed in on top of each other or nice swishy condo where everyone has their own bedroom you have a full kitchen and more importantly a washer and dryer.  http://www.vrbo.com

2014-08-05 8:08 PM
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I think I will only lose $50 of the deposit so l am looking into the condo tomorrow! Agree- 3 kids under 12 and 2 adults!! Thanks for the info. I will do some looking ASAP!
2014-08-07 9:00 AM
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85 day count down: Really felt good about the way training has been going since following Don Fink Iron Fit book/program which focuses in time in training rather than mileage and lays out swim sessions. Also got through hip bursitis and going to weekly PT to work on an old shoulder injury that really flairs up on the bike - this PT focuses on scar tissue removal and adjustments and I really am a fan (he also did IM Hawaii 2X and has been a good mentor). Beginning to think I can actually do this IM thing ... but ...

I just started training with heart rate monitor and am pretty concerned/perplexed about my run HR zones. My HR max tests out at 178 (my own unscientific workout max threshold). The 220 minus age route gives me a max of 164 (56 yrs) which is just too low for me as I can sustain that HR pretty easily. I went for an aerobic fairly easy pace (10:30) 1:15 run and my average HR around 159! I have been training in +10/min pace now for a while (ran a 5K of 8:50 this Spring) hoping for 9's on these "shorter" runs under 10 miles as I drop another 5 - 10lb leading up to IMFL. According to the charts my Z1 and Z2 HR should be 116 - 132 and 133 - 151 (using the 178 max); where most of the IM training should be in Z1, which basically for me is a walking pace! No way! And zone 2 would keep in 11/min pace - speed walking. I don't think so.

I am a little perplexed and maybe a bit concerned - I have gone as long as 1 1/2 runs so far (mid 10ish pace) and 4 hr bike rides and it's not like I am crawling at the finish and need 3 days to recover. My bike HR is 15 - 20 beats below my run HR and even though I know the Zones for bike are a bit lower, I can pretty much maintain a decent for me, but which it was faster, 17mph ride in Z2. I have an appointment Monday coincidently with a cardiac sports specialist for a check up (first check- up I've had since I registered for IMFL). I'm beginning to wish I hadn't strapped on the HR monitor, it has kind of put a confusing spin on my mental attitude - I just can't see myself "running" at a 124 HR which for me is a slightly brisk walk - and on the other hand it concerns me that it could be a medical issue, which I at least can put to rest one way or the other I guess in 3 or 4 days. Any thoughts?
2014-08-07 11:43 AM
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Originally posted by DavidKSC 85 day count down: Really felt good about the way training has been going since following Don Fink Iron Fit book/program which focuses in time in training rather than mileage and lays out swim sessions. Also got through hip bursitis and going to weekly PT to work on an old shoulder injury that really flairs up on the bike - this PT focuses on scar tissue removal and adjustments and I really am a fan (he also did IM Hawaii 2X and has been a good mentor). Beginning to think I can actually do this IM thing ... but ... I just started training with heart rate monitor and am pretty concerned/perplexed about my run HR zones. My HR max tests out at 178 (my own unscientific workout max threshold). The 220 minus age route gives me a max of 164 (56 yrs) which is just too low for me as I can sustain that HR pretty easily. I went for an aerobic fairly easy pace (10:30) 1:15 run and my average HR around 159! I have been training in +10/min pace now for a while (ran a 5K of 8:50 this Spring) hoping for 9's on these "shorter" runs under 10 miles as I drop another 5 - 10lb leading up to IMFL. According to the charts my Z1 and Z2 HR should be 116 - 132 and 133 - 151 (using the 178 max); where most of the IM training should be in Z1, which basically for me is a walking pace! No way! And zone 2 would keep in 11/min pace - speed walking. I don't think so. I am a little perplexed and maybe a bit concerned - I have gone as long as 1 1/2 runs so far (mid 10ish pace) and 4 hr bike rides and it's not like I am crawling at the finish and need 3 days to recover. My bike HR is 15 - 20 beats below my run HR and even though I know the Zones for bike are a bit lower, I can pretty much maintain a decent for me, but which it was faster, 17mph ride in Z2. I have an appointment Monday coincidently with a cardiac sports specialist for a check up (first check- up I've had since I registered for IMFL). I'm beginning to wish I hadn't strapped on the HR monitor, it has kind of put a confusing spin on my mental attitude - I just can't see myself "running" at a 124 HR which for me is a slightly brisk walk - and on the other hand it concerns me that it could be a medical issue, which I at least can put to rest one way or the other I guess in 3 or 4 days. Any thoughts?

Its probably not a medical issue.  The 220 - your age is notoriously not accurate.  HR is a good tool but I would not hang your hat on it 100% because its a TOOL.  Heat esp will effect HR and cause it to drift up over the course of your workout.  My best suggestion would be to hire a coach if you can afford it because its really invaluable.  We are all individuals and for better or for worse those plans are not one size fits all.  Either that do the gold membership here so you have someone you can bounce things off of or try a mentor group.  Perhaps your Sports doc will be able to help. Good luck

2014-08-10 9:58 AM
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THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!! I appreciate all the feedback on condos in the Panama City area!! I booked a room on the 12th floor of the Shores of Panama from Wed-Sun nights and my kids and husband can all stay comfortably with me! My kids are going to actually feel like it's a VACATION instead of a boring trip to the Ironman (what is possibly boring about that anyway???). I saved over $500 as well! That is huge! The hotel was very nice in refunding all but $40 of my fees so that worked out just fine. They completely understood.

Thanks again! CANNOT WAIT...but I guess I better get back to training or I won't be ready for the real reason I am headed to Florida. I would certainly make a great spectator, though.


2014-08-11 2:13 PM
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Thanks again! CANNOT WAIT...but I guess I better get back to training or I won't be ready for the real reason I am headed to Florida. I would certainly make a great spectator, though.


I'll be staying at Shores of Panama for the week aswell with my wife and kids (Monday to Monday)

But i love your enthusiasm ... i can't wait either. I have a 100mile charity ride this weekend and then Rev3 Maine on Aug 24th. After that, it will be the final push with a lot of long runs that i hope my hamstring can sustain.

Have a great week !
2014-08-11 7:41 PM
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I am doing the race with a friend and we rented a house for both families to stay together. We will get there on we'd and the rest of the families will come on fri. Half way done training!!! Everyone stay healthy!
2014-08-11 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by midwesttrimom THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!!! I appreciate all the feedback on condos in the Panama City area!! I booked a room on the 12th floor of the Shores of Panama from Wed-Sun nights and my kids and husband can all stay comfortably with me! My kids are going to actually feel like it's a VACATION instead of a boring trip to the Ironman (what is possibly boring about that anyway???). I saved over $500 as well! That is huge! The hotel was very nice in refunding all but $40 of my fees so that worked out just fine. They completely understood. Thanks again! CANNOT WAIT...but I guess I better get back to training or I won't be ready for the real reason I am headed to Florida. I would certainly make a great spectator, though.
 

seriously great decision.   It might be 1/2 mile -3/4 of a mile from the venue. VERY walkable AND a full kitchen multiple bathrooms and bedrooms, indoor outdoor pools and hot tubs and WASHER ANS DRYER, Plus you and your family won't be tripping over each other.  Look into your husband maybe taking the kids on a dolphin watch Friday.  You can take a nap the family does something fun and different win win win. Plus they can go play on the beach.  I think there is a mini golf place not far away either

2014-08-17 8:42 AM
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I just got back from an epic South America vacation with my grown kids.  One week of skiing in Chile, and a week in Costa Rica, hiking, canyoneering, ziplines, and scuba diving.  No bike riding, running, or swimming unless you count 50 yards in a hotel swimming pool.    Time to get back in the saddle.  Hope I can get ready by Nov 3.  That's only two and a half months away.  Yikes!

I'm sure my training suffered, but my attitude is 100% better.  Here we go, the 'final' push.

2014-08-18 8:33 AM
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I just got back from an epic South America vacation with my grown kids.  One week of skiing in Chile, and a week in Costa Rica, hiking, canyoneering, ziplines, and scuba diving.  No bike riding, running, or swimming unless you count 50 yards in a hotel swimming pool.    Time to get back in the saddle.  Hope I can get ready by Nov 3.  That's only two and a half months away.  Yikes!

I'm sure my training suffered, but my attitude is 100% better.  Here we go, the 'final' push.




I was on vacation two weeks ago and my motivation faltered aswell.
It's not too late, you're right. But, this is it now !

We are under 75 days or 11 weeks out.
This is the time when workouts make the biggest difference in your end results. That's what i tell myself these days.


2014-08-18 10:35 AM
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I wish I could go on vacation.  I wish anything made me happy anymore

I did Steelhead 70.3 on the 10th and is was a disaster. Swim was meh, I was really happy with my bike and came off feeling great and was ready to have a decent run.  I crumped and crumped HARD with on 3 miles and it quickly turned into a death march of epic proportions. I don't think I ran one of the last 10 miles.  I will not finish FL if things go that badly in November.  I am very upset about the whole thing because for me my running was coming along pretty well going into that race and I just imploded.  No idea why either.  I did NOT go too hard on the bike. took it pretty easy in fact, it was not hot for me and I sweated WAY less than I usually do on the bike.  Took in enough calories and just BOOM.  I'm very disheartened

2014-08-19 8:01 AM
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Hate to hear about your tough race. On the flipside, you were able to finish. We've all had those kinds of days and hopefully it will not happen again.
2014-08-19 8:19 AM
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I wish I could go on vacation.  I wish anything made me happy anymore

I did Steelhead 70.3 on the 10th and is was a disaster. Swim was meh, I was really happy with my bike and came off feeling great and was ready to have a decent run.  I crumped and crumped HARD with on 3 miles and it quickly turned into a death march of epic proportions. I don't think I ran one of the last 10 miles.  I will not finish FL if things go that badly in November.  I am very upset about the whole thing because for me my running was coming along pretty well going into that race and I just imploded.  No idea why either.  I did NOT go too hard on the bike. took it pretty easy in fact, it was not hot for me and I sweated WAY less than I usually do on the bike.  Took in enough calories and just BOOM.  I'm very disheartened




Socks, you are such a pillar of this community. It saddens me to hear about your state.
I see how crashing during a race without any reasonable causes can be disheartening.
Don't let it bring you down, scrub it off to some unknown factor and get back on the saddle.
2014-08-19 10:17 AM
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I wish I could go on vacation.  I wish anything made me happy anymore

I did Steelhead 70.3 on the 10th and is was a disaster. Swim was meh, I was really happy with my bike and came off feeling great and was ready to have a decent run.  I crumped and crumped HARD with on 3 miles and it quickly turned into a death march of epic proportions. I don't think I ran one of the last 10 miles.  I will not finish FL if things go that badly in November.  I am very upset about the whole thing because for me my running was coming along pretty well going into that race and I just imploded.  No idea why either.  I did NOT go too hard on the bike. took it pretty easy in fact, it was not hot for me and I sweated WAY less than I usually do on the bike.  Took in enough calories and just BOOM.  I'm very disheartened

Socks, you are such a pillar of this community. It saddens me to hear about your state. I see how crashing during a race without any reasonable causes can be disheartening. Don't let it bring you down, scrub it off to some unknown factor and get back on the saddle.

thanks. the thing is for me that training is very much my mental health thing.  I am VERY cranky if I don't train.  so I am soldiering forward the best I can.  My hip is very unhappy with me right now. 

2014-08-19 1:04 PM
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thanks. the thing is for me that training is very much my mental health thing.  I am VERY cranky if I don't train.  so I am soldiering forward the best I can.  My hip is very unhappy with me right now.


Hang in there and just look forward. I trust you've had way more good races than ones like that one.

Since misery loves company...I had to take 2 weeks off running due to my PF pain, and slogged through just 13.5 miles total last week. I'm just hoping I can build up a bit more volume, manage the pain and rely on all those base miles from January through July. It is what it is, and I can change it, so I'm just soldiering on. I hope you do the same!


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Hello. I wanted to say a while back I posted about the swim and received great advice. I am now and left and right side breather depending on the conditions. I was in PCB last week and I got some longer swims in 1.3 miles. I did come across a new problem. I got very nauseous on my swim. Not sure if it was the swim along the shore line or the salt water. I've gotten ginger gum, sea bands and might try a patch to help with nausea. I am signed up for the 5150 in Galveston same swim as the 70.3 which I had a horrible swim and almost got pulled out 30x but fraught thru only to stop on the run due to asthma problems. So I will test my ginger gum there and see what happens. Any other suggestions for nausea? See you all In 10 weeks.
2014-08-20 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by dge12
Originally posted by Socks

I wish I could go on vacation.  I wish anything made me happy anymore

I did Steelhead 70.3 on the 10th and is was a disaster. Swim was meh, I was really happy with my bike and came off feeling great and was ready to have a decent run.  I crumped and crumped HARD with on 3 miles and it quickly turned into a death march of epic proportions. I don't think I ran one of the last 10 miles.  I will not finish FL if things go that badly in November.  I am very upset about the whole thing because for me my running was coming along pretty well going into that race and I just imploded.  No idea why either.  I did NOT go too hard on the bike. took it pretty easy in fact, it was not hot for me and I sweated WAY less than I usually do on the bike.  Took in enough calories and just BOOM.  I'm very disheartened

Socks, you are such a pillar of this community. It saddens me to hear about your state. I see how crashing during a race without any reasonable causes can be disheartening. Don't let it bring you down, scrub it off to some unknown factor and get back on the saddle.

thanks. the thing is for me that training is very much my mental health thing.  I am VERY cranky if I don't train.  so I am soldiering forward the best I can.  My hip is very unhappy with me right now. 




Ahhhh, so sorry to hear this. I always count on you for solid advice so maybe you need some TLC sometimes too. I hope you get through this okay. I haven't crashed like that but last week's bike ride had me pretty bummed. I was around 3 hours and was just DONE. I swore I had taken in enough fluid and fuel as well. I wanted to call someone to come and pick me up. I am sorry this happened to you during an event. Has to be hard on the confidence. Think of all the things you've accomplished before. Maybe your body is telling you something??? I know I am not really helping but just know that we are rooting for you!
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