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2014-09-02 10:38 AM
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Hey Steve,

Sorry, I think my post re the hill was confusing.  I was wondering about the big hill on the RUN COURSE heading back up to Squaw.  

Wondering how many will actually try and run that on the out and backs as opposed to a power walk.  It was fine for a 20 mile run from Tahoma, but gotta wonder how rough that will be late in the day of the race?



2014-09-02 3:03 PM
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Ah... the run won't be bad, except that it comes after the bike. Last year the bike tweaked so many muscle groups I was walking after mile 3 even though I had pleanty in the tank. Those running will probably run the hills, those run/walking will probably walk the hillls. No crawling allowed until the last mile. Do watch your step on the railroad ties on the run. Do bring a headlamp/light unless you usually do the Bike portion of the IM in 5 hours or less. We are loosing dailight every week and the mountains and trees make the sunset functionally much eariler. Also remember that you can't leave anything in the special needs bags, they got thrown out after the race. And the temperature drops fast at dusk I will be bringing a windbreaker for the run.





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2014-09-02 11:42 PM
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Here are some pictures I took on Saturday's bike ride at Tahoe.



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2014-09-03 12:13 PM
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Nice pics

Kings beach looking fashionably windy.  I would hope that the road construction in Northstar will be done by the time we get there.  When I was there 2 weeks ago, they had it one lane just past the roundabout heading towards the village.

A tip for the headlights-get one of the el cheapo's from Walmart that you can attach to your visor.   Wearing that strap around my head would get irritating after a while. I would hope to be done before it is pitch black out, but this is Ironman, and anything can happen.  

The temp dropped from mid 70's to lower 50's by 745pm.    The shady section from Tahoe City to Alpine Meadows can(approx 4 miles), and likely will be a bit brisk in the shade. I intend to have a cheap long sleeve tech shirt and some yard gloves in my special needs bag.

2014-09-04 12:31 AM
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Yes do get the clip on headlights. Last year I had the strap around your head one and it gave me a headache after a while. Most folks found IMLT to be 2 ish hours slower than flatter IMs like CDA and Vineman. Dark is probably 6:30 to 7pm, so if you do IMs at 11 ish hours you might be ok, but if slower than that, there may be some dark in the race. I found the bike really slowed me down on the run. But then I am a sucky hill climber. Last year the daytime high was probably 45-50 and temps dropped to low 40s high 30s by the end of the race. However it could be a totally nice day, we will just have to wait and see. I am hoping for no frost on the bike seats in the morning and a tent big enough to change in this year. Last year it was standing room only in the T1 tent with T1 times around 30 minutes. I ended up just sitting on the ground outside. So bring all your warm cloths and then just see what the weather brings 8).
2014-09-04 9:25 AM
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Originally posted by Baowolf  Most folks found IMLT to be 2 ish hours slower than flatter IMs like CDA and Vineman.

Provided my wife did CDA in 2007 on the old bike course, but I've never heard someone call CDA flat.  That's funny!

 



2014-09-04 10:36 AM
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Originally posted by Baowolf  Most folks found IMLT to be 2 ish hours slower than flatter IMs like CDA and Vineman.

Provided my wife did CDA in 2007 on the old bike course, but I've never heard someone call CDA flat.  That's funny!

 




Vineman "flat"?! Vineman Full is the clearest definition of "rolling course" out there. It has sizeable hills including "Chalk Hill", which comes at mile 44 and then again at mile 100. Chalk Hill is brutal. Westside road is no joke either. No, Maryland is flat, Florida is flat, Arizona is flat (mostly), Vineman is most definitely not flat.
2014-09-04 9:51 PM
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They are "flatter." I did both CDA bike courses and Vineman twice, they are very very much easier than Tahoe. My Tahoe bike time last year was 2 hours slower than Vineman and CDA. This year it is.... maybe 10-15 minutes faster than last year. The average bike time last year was 8 hours which is the bike cutoff time.
2014-09-05 10:57 AM
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Anyone else having a hard time getting work done? Going a little crazier every day waiting for this beast!
2014-09-05 11:33 AM
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I'm stressing out because I have been on vacation in Houston since last Friday. Missed 2 weekends of riding and the running here sucks with the heat and humidity. Oh well, I have to keep my wife happy ...... Somehow, I have to get back in my rhythm of things starting next Monday
2014-09-11 1:42 PM
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Haven't been here for awhile. Love the above pics, but hoping for a calm lake race morning. Looks like water temps are good for sleeveless wetsuits, no caps or booties. Of course, watching the daily air temp profiles, coming out of the water is going to fun.

I switched down to the 70.3 because I couldn't get enough long training back in July early August. It was a tough thing to do, but I like being realistic. But now there's only about 50 guys in my age group. Should be competitive!


2014-09-11 3:35 PM
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Note that the HIM bike course is different than the IM bike course in that you don't go back up into the ski area, you just cruise up the 4 mile hill. I am sure that some of us will be wishing we were in the HIM on the 2nd loop of the bike....... Lake temps are likely to drop, I would bring the booties just in case it snows the night before...
2014-09-13 8:17 AM
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Originally posted by Baowolf

Note that the HIM bike course is different than the IM bike course in that you don't go back up into the ski area, you just cruise up the 4 mile hill. I am sure that some of us will be wishing we were in the HIM on the 2nd loop of the bike....... Lake temps are likely to drop, I would bring the booties just in case it snows the night before...


I was having a hard time reconciling the extra course for the 112 miles vs 56 miles, but then realized the start and end are at different locations so you need the extra bit to get to 112. Good luck!

Texas finally got a cold front, headed out for a comparable temperature ride this morning. Funny how 50's see so cold when you're used to 90's, then by spring your ok in summer gear in that temperature.
2014-09-16 9:09 AM
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Well, the weather looks great.  Now if we can get rid of the smoke from the fire.  The King Fire near Pollock pines blew up to 8500 acres last night.  The smoke tends to blow out in the am, through the day, and then sink back in around 1700 or so.

Then again, this is Ironman!

2014-09-18 11:47 AM
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I got into Tahoe on Tuesday afternoon. To say it was smoky is an understatement. At some points there was light ash falling and visibility was +/-200m. Looking up at the smoke it looked like a mushroom cloud, or a huge thunder cloud billowing up over the mountains to the south west. I hope this post isn't correct.

http://www.imtahoelive.com/2014/09/smoke-threatens-ironman-lake-tah...

The air quality (particulate matter) was in the "Very Unhealthy" level in Tahoe City this evening. My eyes were itchy and watery, sneezing, difficultly breathing. It is like sitting next to a smoky camp fire.

Another concern is the highway 28 from Squaw Valley to Tahoe City. It is a disaster. There are huge chunks of concrete missing at the drainage catch basins along the side of the road and they are covered with huge steel plates. And the sections that are replaced are just stuffed with tar and not even anywhere level with the existing road. They are doing the repairs at night (after 4:00pm) so the road is down to a single lane (alternating one direction then the other) and it takes a fair bit of time to get from Squaw to Lake Tahoe.

But, on the bright side the temperatures are looking good. Mid 40s overnight, low to mid 70s for the high.

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2014-09-19 12:59 PM
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This was the view from T2 parking lot at Squaw Valley at 5:30pm yesterday.


2014-09-19 2:06 PM
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Good luck up there, and whatever the RD decides, make smart choices.

2014-09-21 8:37 AM
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Cancelled. Check out the swim cam. Audio is still rolling. http://www.ironman.com/triathlon/coverage/detail.aspx?race=laketaho...
2014-09-27 1:58 PM
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Well, I signed up for next year. For $100, I figured why not. Year one was cold, year two was canceled due to smoke. I figure year three just has to be perfect. I am also keeping my fingers crossed for one of the 50 Kona lottery slots. One in 1700 (or less) is pretty good odds.
2014-09-28 11:09 AM
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I am not going back to Tahoe. First year was almost a no go from smoke also and was almost a no go from snow. I guess Ironman is just going to pocket my $700. They are not answering the phone or emails so I could be done with the brand if they don't respond in any way over the next couple weeks. Customer service is soooooo bad I hate to support that type of behavior. The DMV is much more responsive, nice and understanding.
2014-09-28 4:14 PM
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So sorry to hear about the race cancellation.  It's hard to imagine paying the registration, training for am IM, arranging leave from work, traveling to the race site, then not being able to race.  Race day conditions are always unpredictable, that is certain.  And I'm sure they made the right decision under the circumstances.

I was curious about what Ironman decided to do.  Is their consolation to allow athletes to register for next year for $100?

BTW - You all posted some awesome photos.



2014-09-29 10:46 AM
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They gave us 3 options.

Option 1
Register for one of the following 2014 events for a reduced entry fee of $100 (a limited number of entries will be made available on a first-come, first served basis):
• Little Debbie IRONMAN Chattanooga benefitting Crohn's & Colitis (9/28/14) - 100 entries
• IRONMAN Barcelona (10/5/14) - 50 entries
• IRONMAN Florida (11/1/14) - 50 entries
• IRONMAN Fortaleza (11/9/14) - 100 entries
• IRONMAN Arizona presented by Waste Management (11/16/14) - 50 entries
• Ford IRONMAN Cozumel (11/30/14) - 250 entries
• Sunsmart IRONMAN Western Australia (12/7/14) - 100 entries

Option 2
Register for 2015 IRONMAN Lake Tahoe (9/20/15) for a reduced entry fee of $100.


Option 3
Register for one of the following 2015 events at a 50% discount (available on a first-come, first-served basis, offer valid for new entries only, existing entries will not be partially refunded):
• Memorial Hermann IRONMAN Texas presented by Waste Management (5/16/15)
• IRONMAN Coeur d'Alene (6/28/15)
• Subaru IRONMAN Canada (7/26/15)
• IRONMAN Boulder (8/2/15)
• Subaru IRONMAN Mont-Tremblant (8/16/15)
• IRONMAN Wisconsin (9/13/15)
• IRONMAN Maryland (10/3/15)
• IRONMAN Louisville presented by Norton Sports Health (10/11/15)

I had already used up all my holidays for 2014 so I couldn't use option 1. Since I had signed up for 2 IM in 2015 already, and I wouldn't get a 50% refund for those races I couldn't use option 3. So, that left me option 2.

So, I am doing IM Couer d'Alene, IM Muskoka, and IM Lake Tahoe in 2015.


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2014-09-29 11:21 AM
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I was happy with the options they provided given the fact that I wasn't expecting anything from WTC. I stayed in Tahoe a couple more days after race day and in my opinion, they made the right decision.

Based on cost and schedules, I am going back to Tahoe in 2015.
2014-09-29 11:44 PM
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I followed the linc to sign up for IMAZ, but no slots were available and I couldn't pick any other options after I tried to go to the option 1 linc, so I get nothing. I couldn't wait for any of the other option 1 options to open 2 to 6 hours later as I was at work and the page would timeout long before the 6 hours was up. Even if you don't pick an option the linc goes dead once you follow it, so impossible to actually pick anything. The whole thing was not thought through very well if they actually wanted to not miff people off. Now IM does not answer the phone or respond to emails or respond to phone messages.
2014-10-01 3:57 AM
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Thanks for sharing the options DeVinci.  They were more generous than I expected.  But most people plan and register for their big races a year ahead of time, including vacation from work, like you did, so I can see how it would be hard to utilize some of those options.

I suppose Ironman was left with a lot of unsold finisher gear and merchandise.

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