Swim & Strength Training
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2014-03-28 1:21 PM |
278 Atlanta, Georgia | Subject: Swim & Strength Training For the last year I have been strictly a distance runner. All I do is run. No strength training, no serious bike or swim training. I want to change that & start getting into doing some short Sprint or Olympic distance tris. I'm looking to start going to my local Y at 5AM on MWF to get in the pool. I would still have time to get a brief workout in before I had to get home to get the kids off to school & get to work. My question is what would be better. Would it be better to do the strength training first & then get in the pool, or vice-versa? I'm sure it may not really matter, but I wasn't sure if there was a recommended order for that sort of thing. |
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2014-03-28 1:33 PM in reply to: Meathead |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training I would ST after. Having tired arms before even getting in the water isn't going to help. |
2014-03-28 1:33 PM in reply to: Meathead |
2014-03-28 1:42 PM in reply to: Meathead |
Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training I would simply spend all the time in the pool rather than ST at all. Maybe one ST session if anything...and after the swim. I do believe that strength training can help aid an endurance athlete...but in most cases, AG athletes would be better focusing almost all of their workout time on the endurance activity itself. Especially when it comes to swimming. |
2014-03-28 1:48 PM in reply to: Jason N |
Extreme Veteran 3025 Maryland | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training I would swim, and then swim more. You strength is not going to be what limits you in the swim at this point. |
2014-03-28 2:12 PM in reply to: Meathead |
Not a Coach 11473 Media, PA | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Do the one that's most important to you first. That way you are more fresh for the work you care most about. And, if something does end up getting cut short, it will be the less important one. |
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2014-03-28 2:53 PM in reply to: Jason N |
20 | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Throw some paddle work in there and in my opinion it becomes better than any strength training exercise... maybe some extra core work |
2014-03-28 8:05 PM in reply to: #4972916 |
111 | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Lift weights first and then swim. If you have never lifted weights, it'll probably take about 12 months for your body to adapt. You might even take a step back for a bit while your body adjusts to the new stroke. But you want to do your best to maintain great technique while you are fatigued. |
2014-03-28 8:10 PM in reply to: Meathead |
58 , North Carolina | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Swim first.....if you still want to strength train after that, have at it. If you are gassed getting into the water, your form will most likely suffer, and swimming is all form/technique. |
2014-03-28 8:14 PM in reply to: snappingt |
Member 587 | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training I swim before I do my strength training. Trying to swim after a strength session does not work in my case. My body is too fatigued to get any kind of swim workout after doing a strength session. |
2014-03-28 9:38 PM in reply to: axteraa |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Originally posted by axteraa I would ST after. Having tired arms before even getting in the water isn't going to help. This ^^^^^^^^ We rarely did any strength work before a swim session. |
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2014-03-28 9:42 PM in reply to: snappingt |
Veteran 2297 Great White North | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Why do you think weights first is better? This debate has gone around so many times. The idea of swimming fresh for better technique usually wins out. |
2014-03-28 10:07 PM in reply to: snappingt |
Richland, Washington | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Incorporate some ST into your swimming workout... Here's a set I like to do.... 1x100 - Every even lap hop out of the pool and do 5 burps 1x200 - Odds/ 10 push ups 1x300 - Evens/10 situps 1x400 - Odds/ 10 explosive jump squats 1x500 - Descending pace 100's 1x400 - Evens/ 10 burpees 1x300 - Odds/ 20 pushups 1x200 - Evens/ 20 situps 1x100 - 20 Explosive jumps Want to add a bit more weight added? Throw a 5lb weight in on the sit-ups and explosive jumps. Double the push-ups. Want more? add more weight, add more of each workout. Still not enough? All even swims are IM, or if you're a masochist like me, treat it like a main set... all evens are butterfly, descending.. odds are with paddles and a buoy.. descending.. 20lb weights, triple the exercises... then do it all twice. 5000yards. |
2014-03-29 9:35 AM in reply to: Meathead |
278 Atlanta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Thanks for all the great feedback. It does seem that the opinions are split, but leaning towards swim first. I think I will let my experience with the Y crowds at 5AM determine what I do. If the pool is slammed at 5AM, then maybe do weights first for 30-45min. Similarly, if everyone is there to do weights at 5AM, I will jump in the pool first. Then again, variety & muscle confusion is always fun.. Maybe M&F I do swim-ST & on W I do ST-Swim. |
2014-03-29 9:50 AM in reply to: Meathead |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Originally posted by Meathead Thanks for all the great feedback. It does seem that the opinions are split, but leaning towards swim first. I think I will let my experience with the Y crowds at 5AM determine what I do. If the pool is slammed at 5AM, then maybe do weights first for 30-45min. Similarly, if everyone is there to do weights at 5AM, I will jump in the pool first. Probably worth noting that the best swimmers all recommended swim first - assuming that your primary goal is to improve your swim, this is the way I would go. Then again, variety & muscle confusion is always fun.. Maybe M&F I do swim-ST & on W I do ST-Swim. I wouldn't put too much stock in muscle confusion. Shane |
2014-03-29 10:46 AM in reply to: gsmacleod |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Originally posted by gsmacleod Originally posted by Meathead Thanks for all the great feedback. It does seem that the opinions are split, but leaning towards swim first. I think I will let my experience with the Y crowds at 5AM determine what I do. If the pool is slammed at 5AM, then maybe do weights first for 30-45min. Similarly, if everyone is there to do weights at 5AM, I will jump in the pool first. Probably worth noting that the best swimmers all recommended swim first - assuming that your primary goal is to improve your swim, this is the way I would go. Then again, variety & muscle confusion is always fun.. Maybe M&F I do swim-ST & on W I do ST-Swim. I wouldn't put too much stock in muscle confusion. Shane X2 on everything Shane said |
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2014-03-29 10:48 AM in reply to: CB3 |
Expert 2355 Madison, Wisconsin | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Originally posted by CB3 Throw some paddle work in there and in my opinion it becomes better than any strength training exercise... maybe some extra core work Paddles are great tools for sport specific training. Might want to be a bit more specific on core work. Overhead squats or med ball slams? Pretty much everything in between works the core as well. |
2014-03-29 12:11 PM in reply to: gsmacleod |
278 Atlanta, Georgia | Subject: RE: Swim & Strength Training Originally posted by gsmacleod Probably worth noting that the best swimmers all recommended swim first - assuming that your primary goal is to improve your swim, this is the way I would go. I wouldn't put too much stock in muscle confusion. Shane Fair enough & very good point. Thanks for the feedback. |
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