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2014-04-12 9:32 AM

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Subject: IM70.3 NO athlete killed in pre-race ride

Yesterday a group of cyclists in New Orleans for the IM70.3 were struck from behind by a car while riding the course. One died on the scene and another was critically injured.

http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2014/04/car_crash_in_eastern_new_orlea.html#incart_river_default 

The deceased leaves a widow and 7-yo triplet girls behind. If you'd like to leave a donation a gofundme site has been set up:

http://www.gofundme.com/89mhhs 

Condolences to the family and best wishes to all participating in the race, Be careful out there, even though some variables cannot be controlled.

 

 



2014-04-12 9:54 AM
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Originally posted by the bear

Yesterday a group of cyclists in New Orleans for the IM70.3 were struck from behind by a car while riding the course. One died on the scene and another was critically injured.

http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2014/04/car_crash_in_eastern_new_orlea.html#incart_river_default 

The deceased leaves a widow and 7-yo triplet girls behind. If you'd like to leave a donation a gofundme site has been set up:

http://www.gofundme.com/89mhhs 

Condolences to the family and best wishes to all participating in the race, Be careful out there, even though some variables cannot be controlled.

 

 

I sent the donation.  So sorry to hear this.

2014-04-12 1:10 PM
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An Atlanta firefighter...sad. The parts of Chef Menteur I've driven, there are decent shoulders. Bear? I've only gone out there for Pho, not to ride.
2014-04-12 2:53 PM
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This hits home for me twice because I'm from New Orleans & the athlete killed was an Atlanta Firefighter which is where I now reside. Sgt Frank Guinn, a nine-year veteran of the department, is survived by a wife and triplet daughters.

It's a tragedy for both cities, the sport, and Ironman. I hope the driver is charged to the fullest extent in a very public way & I hope something good can come out of this with more awareness about bike safety & driver awareness.

http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/atlanta-firefighter-kill...

2014-04-12 2:57 PM
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"7-yo triplet girls"

brings a tear to my eye.  how sad.  horrible.  

Sounds like the kind of accident that could happen to any of us at any time.  

ugh

2014-04-12 3:13 PM
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Subject: RE: IM70.3 NO athlete killed in pre-race ride
Originally posted by tech_geezer

Originally posted by the bear

Yesterday a group of cyclists in New Orleans for the IM70.3 were struck from behind by a car while riding the course. One died on the scene and another was critically injured.

http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2014/04/car_crash_in_eastern_new_orlea.html#incart_river_default 

The deceased leaves a widow and 7-yo triplet girls behind. If you'd like to leave a donation a gofundme site has been set up:

http://www.gofundme.com/89mhhs 

Condolences to the family and best wishes to all participating in the race, Be careful out there, even though some variables cannot be controlled.

 

 

I sent the donation.  So sorry to hear this.




Ditto.

Any thing that can help get this family through this tragedy.

What a disaster.


2014-04-12 3:59 PM
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Donation sent. Absolutely heartbreaking.
2014-04-12 4:02 PM
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2014-04-12 4:03 PM
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Originally posted by MeatheadThis hits home for me twice because I'm from New Orleans & the athlete killed was an Atlanta Firefighter which is where I now reside. Sgt Frank Guinn, a nine-year veteran of the department, is survived by a wife and triplet daughters.It's a tragedy for both cities, the sport, and Ironman. I hope the driver is charged to the fullest extent in a very public way & I hope something good can come out of this with more awareness about bike safety & driver awareness.http://www.ajc.com/news/news/breaking-news/atlanta-firefighter-killed-new-orleans-bike-wreck/nfYPr/
I feel a particular sensitivity to this. I was driving the bike course ahead of the race and came upon the accident about 15 - 20 minutes after it happened. I saw the aftermath of everything, including the rider on the ground, uncovered and without question deceased. It has shaken me like you wouldn't believe. I see his photo now and think yes, that's the guy I saw. It is a fairly wide road. As I recall it didn't happen on a curve. Weather was fine, light breeze. Word is the driver was a guy in his 30s with a 12 year old in the car. No one but the people there know what happened. I saw frank in he middle of the two eastbound lanes I.e way away from the shoulder. No idea whether the driver or the cyclist was at fault, and there is a slowtwitch post referencing a potential witness saying frank waved at his friend and may have lost control

just a long winded way o saying let's let the facts come out before convicting anyone.

2014-04-12 5:46 PM
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So sad. My prayers are with the family, as the other hit was his brother-in-law.

I, too, am from the New Orleans area. It is a very dangerous place for cyclists. Drivers are terrible, and many have no insurance.
2014-04-12 9:11 PM
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Originally posted by ChrisM
just a long winded way o saying let's let the facts come out before convicting anyone.


Very fair point. I think we always want to assume the rider is right & the driver is wrong, but sometimes those assumptions are incorrect.

You know that the lives of everyone involved, including the driver, have been changed forever.


2014-04-14 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by Meathead
Originally posted by ChrisMjust a long winded way o saying let's let the facts come out before convicting anyone.
Very fair point. I think we always want to assume the rider is right & the driver is wrong, but sometimes those assumptions are incorrect.You know that the lives of everyone involved, including the driver, have been changed forever.
Now they've charged the guy with negligent homicide among other things and I'm now with you. Throw the book at him
2014-04-14 10:53 AM
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http://www.wwltv.com/news/NOPD-Driver-charged-after-hitting-killing-triathlete-on-Chef-Highway-255173131.html

2014-04-14 11:13 AM
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Originally posted by the bear

Yesterday a group of cyclists in New Orleans for the IM70.3 were struck from behind by a car while riding the course. One died on the scene and another was critically injured.

http://www.nola.com/traffic/index.ssf/2014/04/car_crash_in_eastern_new_orlea.html#incart_river_default 

The deceased leaves a widow and 7-yo triplet girls behind. If you'd like to leave a donation a gofundme site has been set up:

http://www.gofundme.com/89mhhs 

Condolences to the family and best wishes to all participating in the race, Be careful out there, even though some variables cannot be controlled.

 

Thank you for posting the link for donations. I love that the endurance community is stepping up to help.

Stay safe out there friends. My son and I found these crazy stupid bright bike lights at REI this weekend. NM has bad drivers too so we do all we can to be visible.

2014-04-14 11:47 AM
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Originally posted by ChrisM
Originally posted by Meathead
Originally posted by ChrisMjust a long winded way o saying let's let the facts come out before convicting anyone.
Very fair point. I think we always want to assume the rider is right & the driver is wrong, but sometimes those assumptions are incorrect.You know that the lives of everyone involved, including the driver, have been changed forever.
Now they've charged the guy with negligent homicide among other things and I'm now with you. Throw the book at him
I'm really glad they've found some evidence (whatever it is) and are charging him. It's high profile, this is good. However, it's a little sad, if it was any other cloak out on a ride, I'm not as confident they'd have this same swift response.
2014-10-23 6:31 AM
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this popped up in my facebook feed this morning, so thought I would post an update - the driver was sentences to 5.5 years in prison

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/10/driver_guilty_of_killin...

this part from the lawyer just ugh - "We believe the victims were just as much at fault as my client was," Hand said. "They were driving in the middle of the street in a 55 mph zone. I know the law says they can, but my client's original perception was that they were riding on the shoulder, like they probably should have been. It took him by surprise when they weren't."


2014-10-23 11:55 AM
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Thanks for posting update.

Looks like he will only serve three years.

Awesome that the wife wants to train for the race this year. One strong woman.
2014-10-23 12:33 PM
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Thanks for posting update.

Looks like he will only serve three years.

Awesome that the wife wants to train for the race this year. One strong woman.


i think he was considered for a 3/2 (suspensed sentence) - but didn't get it - i'm sure he won't do the full 5.5 years though
2014-10-23 12:37 PM
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thanks for the update. Crazy that he didn't express any remorse - even if you don't have any remorse, what kind of idiot doesn't at least feign remorse when facing sentencing? His lawyer didn't do a very good job of advising him. Also, is there anyone who believes he pled guilty to spare the family the pain as opposed to pleading guilty so he would get the sentence reduction you get for not putting the state through the expense of a trial, and because we was getting his butt whooped and wanted to get over to prison asap where it's safer for weenies like him.
2014-10-23 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by Raansnel

thanks for the update. Crazy that he didn't express any remorse - even if you don't have any remorse, what kind of idiot doesn't at least feign remorse when facing sentencing? His lawyer didn't do a very good job of advising him. Also, is there anyone who believes he pled guilty to spare the family the pain as opposed to pleading guilty so he would get the sentence reduction you get for not putting the state through the expense of a trial, and because we was getting his butt whooped and wanted to get over to prison asap where it's safer for weenies like him.


IIRC he was driving on a suspended license when it happened as well...so it isn't his first rodeo with driving and breaking laws...
2014-10-23 3:14 PM
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Originally posted by austhokie

this popped up in my facebook feed this morning, so thought I would post an update - the driver was sentences to 5.5 years in prison

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/10/driver_guilty_of_killin...

this part from the lawyer just ugh - "We believe the victims were just as much at fault as my client was," Hand said. "They were driving in the middle of the street in a 55 mph zone. I know the law says they can, but my client's original perception was that they were riding on the shoulder, like they probably should have been. It took him by surprise when they weren't."


Lawyers like this guy are what give all lawyers a bad name. This statement makes so little sense, it blows my mind this man actually graduated law school. He acknowledges that the law affords cyclists the right to ride in the road, but they were at fault for not being on the shoulder like they should've been. So the law says one thing, but the cyclist should've disregarded the law and rode on the shoulder. How can a man whose profession is knowing the law, make a statement like this? And his perception was they were on the shoulder? Based on what? "hmm...I see a cyclist in front of me, they look to be in the middle of the road, but he's on a bike, so he must actually be on the shoulder. " I'm glad he is serving significant jail time. As opposed to that other case I heard of recently where the driver was fined $1500.


2014-10-24 10:18 AM
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You've hired one hell of a attorney if he's going to let you plead guilty and you still end up with the maximum sentence any way.
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