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Originally posted by TriMyBest

I'm like the others who say it depends.  I don't give my breathing pattern any thought at all.  When swimming easy, it may be every 5 strokes, alternating sides.  As the effort level increases in open water where I want to see what's on both sides of me, I will find myself in a 2, 2, 3, 2, 2, 3...pattern, breathing twice in a row on one side, skipping a stroke, then twice on the opposite side.  In races, it frequently becomes every 2 strokes, breathing on the same side to avoid sun, waves, or splashing from another swimmer on the other side, and getting enough air.  Sprinting, there's no breathing.  

 




I have started doing this as swimming OW has improved. I can feel myself moving faster if swimming with any intensity and found that getting rid of more CO2 by going more than 2 strokes for a breath has improved my conditioning and kept fatigue down. An unrushed exhale has done wonders for my calmness while actually allowing for improved intensity and swim time. Hope this makes sense.
2014-09-11 3:56 PM
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The risk when training and breathing always on one side is to develop a stroke which is not symmetrical. For instance, if you always breathe on your left, you may end up pushing your right arm deeper and slower in the water to have more time and comfort to breath. If you keep doing that, you will end up having one arm which goes deep and slow and one which goes on surface and faster. On the other hand, if you breath each odd amount of strokes, you will breath on different side each time and diminish the risk of developing flaws.

It is therefore recommended to breath each odd amount of strokes.

For the capacity, each breathing slows you down a little. You will therefore want to up your stroke capacity per breath.

If you are starting then you will probably need to breath often, each 3 strokes.
Then you can try to up the strokes by doing exercise like intervals. for instance 50 meters breath each 3 strokes, 50m each 5 strokes, 50 each 3 strokes, 50 each 7 strokes, repeat.

That is for training.

When racing, you will vary your speed and breathing frequency. For instance, you may want to accelerate to get to the buoy first (do less breathing and more stroke).
Then recuperate after the buoy (breath more, each 2 strokes if in need).
Also, as another member said, you might end up with the buoy on your right or a kicking buddy on the left and breathing on one side anyway.
You will therefore end up breathing on irregular interval.

After a while, it will become natural and go by the feeling rather than counting your breathing per strokes.
2014-09-11 5:57 PM
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Every stroke. I haven't got the bilateral thing going yet.
2014-09-11 6:36 PM
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The first 25 off the wall, only one out of two or three, but that's just adrenaline. Once I settle in I like to breath every stroke all the time regardless of effort. If I'm not winded I just take shallower breaths. Same as if I'm running or biking. I wouldn't hold my breath during either of those sports, I keep it constant and rhythmic and it's the same for swimming. That being said, I could do well to breath bilaterally but I've been swimming this way since high school and you know what they say about an old dog. Here's a video if you're at all interested, and I'm always open to constructive criticism as well.

http://youtu.be/yubBFeI1WyU

Interesting...I just watched the video and I do skip breaths randomly...I had no idea, I thought I took a breath every stroke. Weird.
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