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Subject: 70.3 and Ironman world championship slots
Hey all

Just wondering if someone can help me out here.

I'm planning on doing Kraichgau 70.3 to qualify for the 70.3 worlds however there are 30 kona slots available as well. How does the slot allocation work for these races?

Does the first placed person get a choice of either and the one they don't want rolls down?


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Subject: RE: 70.3 and Ironman world championship slots
the 30 slots are allocated 1 per age group, per sex. Not sure how many that makes, but say 20

then the remaining are distributed according to how many people in that age group. The 10 remaining slots will be allocated proportionally to the number of people in that AG. Male 40-44 tend to get the most

If there are two slots available then the two top people are offered. If they turn them down, they roll down to the next person in the AG.

Sometimes (rarely) there isn't a taker so they re-allocate the slot to another AG.

WTC has given few slots to each North American race. On one hand there are few slots, on the other fewer people will take them because of the distance/cost of travel. There should be some roll down although with 1 or 2 slots per AG I doubt it will roll that deep.


For the Kona slots, I believe t a winner can take both his Kona and 70.3 WC slot and there are roll downs




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Qualifications are for both.  So someone could qualify for both.

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Subject: RE: 70.3 and Ironman world championship slots

Originally posted by marcag the 30 slots are allocated 1 per age group, per sex. Not sure how many that makes, but say 20 then the remaining are distributed according to how many people in that age group. The 10 remaining slots will be allocated proportionally to the number of people in that AG. Male 40-44 tend to get the most If there are two slots available then the two top people are offered. If they turn them down, they roll down to the next person in the AG. Sometimes (rarely) there isn't a taker so they re-allocate the slot to another AG. WTC has given few slots to each North American race. On one hand there are few slots, on the other fewer people will take them because of the distance/cost of travel. There should be some roll down although with 1 or 2 slots per AG I doubt it will roll that deep. For the Kona slots, I believe t a winner can take both his Kona and 70.3 WC slot and there are roll downs

Not entirely accurate as to how it works.

There are 26 AG's.  An automatic slot goes to each AG that has a finisher (which isn't a given in the older AG's).  The rest of the slots are more or less allocated to the most deserving AG's according to the number of starters.

BUT... 

  • A slot has to be reallocated within the same gender.  Assuming there aren't any W80+ finishers (which there pretty much never are) that slot gets reallocated to another female AG and not the statistically most deserving AG (which is most likely M40-44, M45-49 or M35-39).  There are usually never any finishers in W65-69, W70-74, W75-79, and W80+.  Those four slots always get reallocated to the W30-49 AG's... even though it should statistically go to the men if we're being mathematically fair.
  • WTC doesn't round correctly.

There are some guys over at ST that have more or less figured out WTC's allocation algorithm and often show how it differs from the proportional allocation model (that, like yourself, most assume is used).

Here is the IMMT Kona slot allocation table.  The black # is WTC's official # and the red # would be the slot allocation assuming proportional allocation (with a slot going to each AG with a finisher).

http://www.winthefight.org/scrap/IMMT.png

 

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