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2015-04-24 11:48 PM


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First time to try this
I did a 16 km run and I planned to do 2 hour cycling. Couldn't move my legsWhen I got on.
I heard this is effective tri training. Never done it before and perhaps it takes getting use to.
anyone do this on their plan?


2015-04-25 10:26 AM
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I've never done it that way. Only the other way bike and then run.
2015-04-25 12:50 PM
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That's crazy talk!  I do a short run <2 miles before a trainer session every now and then to warm up, but it's not the focus of the workout.

2015-04-25 1:54 PM
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You can bike after a hard run but I wouldn't do anything serious on it. Z1-2 should be your goal. Biking for 15-60 minutes after my long run helps my recovery. It's high RPM at mid Z2 effort though. After doing that, your legs will almost never be sore after a long run again.
2015-04-26 12:25 PM
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Unless you're planning to do Powerman races, then I see no reason to ever do a long run followed by a long bike.

For duathletes, this type of training makes a lot of sense, the feeling of riding after a hard run is quite different. Although a 5k before 45min-1hr bike is really all you'll ever need.

For triathletes, doing a run after each ride really prepares you well for the feeling of running on "dead" legs. You'll only need a couple of miles, no more.
2015-04-26 12:56 PM
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If you live somewhere that's insanely hot, running in the early morning and then hitting the bike trainer makes sense if you have both workouts scheduled for the day.


2015-04-26 10:04 PM
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I did this twice in a race. The first time the swim got cancelled last minute because of poor water quality so they made the race a R-B-R. It was awful. The first run could have been described as pitiful but it wasn't that good. I had no frame of reference on how hard to run, plus I am a very poor runner. The closing run was modestly better.

The second time was a reverse tri. Having planned it I had a much better run than the first time and an excellent bike. However the legs cramped up on the swim.

If you ever plan on doing a reverse you will be happy to have some experience doing them in this order.


2015-04-27 3:56 AM
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The reason I would do a run-bike brick that would be exactly that....it's a lot easier to get in the run first, when the heat is a bit more manageable. The ONLY reason I (or most other runners) would typically do a run after 8 AM would be if it was the latter half of a long brick, which I'd only do for tri training. Still remember just after I first got into tri, I was eating brunch with the friend who got me into the sport. It was after 11 AM with temps pushing triple digits when a very good-looking Western man in compression gear ran by at high speed, sweating profusely. "Boy, that dude must have a death wish," I commented. "Or he drank too much last night and only now got up to sweat it off," said my friend. "Or else he's a triathlete doing a brick," we then noted in unison. Only mad dogs, Englishmen....and triathletes run in our noonday sun. (Later found out he's the top male triathlete here in Vietnam.) Only then did we note how good-looking he was.

2015-04-27 11:53 AM
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Originally posted by audiojan

Unless you're planning to do Powerman races, then I see no reason to ever do a long run followed by a long bike.

For duathletes, this type of training makes a lot of sense, the feeling of riding after a hard run is quite different. Although a 5k before 45min-1hr bike is really all you'll ever need.

For triathletes, doing a run after each ride really prepares you well for the feeling of running on "dead" legs. You'll only need a couple of miles, no more.


x2 - I'm sprint du and tri focused and this has helped my heavy legged feeling and adaptability.
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