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2016-01-06 4:17 PM

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Subject: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?

I was lucky enough to have received a Vector S power meter (single pedal power reading that is doubled) early for Christmas and have been riding with it on the trainer for the last month or so.  I know my left leg is weaker than my right due to a hamstring injury I've been recovering from for too many months, have read many posts that discuss the pros and cons of a single leg PM system and paid special attention to the discussion of each leg (especially if one is weaker) tiring at different rates and having a significant impact on the power you see.  This last point I've come to believe in as I've been using the Vector S over the last month.

I looked into getting the right side pedal as an upgrade to make it a R/L power meter system.  Unfortunately, on the right side it requires a clearance of 5 mm between the crank arm and chain when on the largest chainring and smallest cog in the rear.  Mine measures only 3 mm so that is a problem.  I found that I can adjust my derailleur travel such that it will prevent the chain from dropping onto the smallest cog and thus providing the necessary 5 mm clearance.  I'm wondering if there is any downside to this (other than losing the smallest cog which I'm not strong enough to really get much use out of) or mechanical issues it could cause.  Seems like a simple fix, but worried that "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is."



2016-01-08 1:56 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?
Have you tried removing the left pedal and installing it on the right side to see if it might clear any way? It would be a simple pedal swap to check the actual clearance.
2016-01-08 3:41 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?

Originally posted by mdg2003 Have you tried removing the left pedal and installing it on the right side to see if it might clear any way? It would be a simple pedal swap to check the actual clearance.

No can do. One of them is left-hand threaded, so you can't just swap them side-to-side.

2016-01-08 6:37 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?
Originally posted by briderdt

Originally posted by mdg2003 Have you tried removing the left pedal and installing it on the right side to see if it might clear any way? It would be a simple pedal swap to check the actual clearance.

No can do. One of them is left-hand threaded, so you can't just swap them side-to-side.


Doh!!

2016-01-08 6:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?
Stack a feeler gage to measure exactly how far the spindle/rubber cap extends from your crank arm. Take that stack and see if it will fit between your chain and crank on the right side without rubbing. You might be able to get away with less than 5 mm. Also make sure your FD is feathered and not swung over further than needed. I just checked mine and it was rubbing until I feathered the FD.
2016-01-08 7:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?

I did measure the rubber cap width from the crank arm and it was ~4mm.  The distance from my chain to the crank when in the proper position is ~3mm.  Moving the chain up to the next-to-smallest cog gives me a full 5+mm, so I'm sure it'll work if I go that route.  I just want to make sure that I'm not missing something that will bite me on the butt later if I go that way.  Seems to pedal smoothly on the bike stand



2016-01-10 12:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?
I've got a technical solution, but it's not a complete solution.

Since you are using the bike in indoor training mode for the next 2-3 months, you could get the 5 mm clearance on the drive side by removing the inner chain ring and mounting the outer chain ring to the inside of the spider. This means you would need to buy chain ring bolts (readily available and inexpensive) for a single speed chain ring, as well as setting the outer limit screw / shift cable tension so the front derailleur does not guide the chain off the ring. This should give plenty of clearance. When outdoor riding begins, undo everything. Switching configurations is a downside if you want to use the trainer one day and ride outdoors the next.

The other solution is to buy a good used aluminum bike on Craig'slist or E-bay, dedicate it to indoor training, and use your race bike (with single pedal PM) for outdoor rides.
2016-01-10 3:38 PM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?
search google "bottom bracket spacers"
2016-01-13 8:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Limiting rear derailleur travel, eliminate smallest cog?

Originally posted by Leegoocrap search google "bottom bracket spacers"
Thanks!  Looks like a possible solution that means no loss of gearing.

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