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2016-04-11 12:42 PM

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Subject: Manatee Mentors 2016 - Part deux

Welcome to the second iteration of the Manatee Mentors 2016!

Go Manatees! Go!



2016-04-11 12:49 PM
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Makin my move

2016-04-11 12:55 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner

Makin my move

Woo hoo! 

2016-04-11 1:15 PM
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Thanks Janyne!

2016-04-11 1:29 PM
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Moved on over with the pod to thread 2  

2016-04-11 2:15 PM
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Mary G, I'm so glad that you had fun at the Chi Town Half!  I can't wait to read the race report!



2016-04-11 2:20 PM
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Thank you for posting the move, Janyne.  Look I found it right away instead of 4 days later...

2016-04-11 4:17 PM
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Mooooooving on over!

Wow, sounds like Jonathan, Monica, Mary G, Laura, Foxy and McMatt (did I miss anyone?  Apologies if I did) all had great racing experiences, even if some were a bit more trying than others.  Congrats to all!

Steve: much better being early than late, but I'll bet it still wasn't fun realizing you had the date mixed up.

My race wasn't quite as 'epic' as it could've been had the weather done exactly what it was supposed to, but we still had a great time and it will forever be etched in our memories and the Snow in April race. 

Race Report can be found here.



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2016-04-11 5:49 PM
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Woo hoo I found you
2016-04-11 6:01 PM
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This is what we call doing a transition. :p

2016-04-12 3:20 AM
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As usual my transition is slow--six hours late!

OMG just have to gripe to someone. Not tri-related (well, I did get up early and push my sleepy, crampy self through two rather yuck workouts much earlier than I would have liked, because really hot weather was forecast for today). I'm sitting on the sofa doing some school work with the AC going full-blast and it's still kind of sticky in here. Just checked and the heat index outside is 113. (93 degrees, 69% humidity, blinding sunlight). What's amazing is that at 3:20 PM it should be a few hours past the peak daily temps.

Was thinking of walking about 10 minutes to a nearby coffee shop for something frozen, but now not sure it's worth the effort! Gonna wait a while.


2016-04-12 4:42 AM
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Drive by post as I'm still in the mountains, Looks like everyone had great races - congrats to all! And Matt, I'm sure next week you'll have a great race too

2016-04-12 7:39 AM
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i'm glad to see that people are finding the new thread

2016-04-12 8:49 AM
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Originally posted by Hot Runner As usual my transition is slow--six hours late! OMG just have to gripe to someone. Not tri-related (well, I did get up early and push my sleepy, crampy self through two rather yuck workouts much earlier than I would have liked, because really hot weather was forecast for today). I'm sitting on the sofa doing some school work with the AC going full-blast and it's still kind of sticky in here. Just checked and the heat index outside is 113. (93 degrees, 69% humidity, blinding sunlight). What's amazing is that at 3:20 PM it should be a few hours past the peak daily temps. Was thinking of walking about 10 minutes to a nearby coffee shop for something frozen, but now not sure it's worth the effort! Gonna wait a while.

That is seriously hot!  Frozen treat sounds wonderful, but not sure it would be worth the walk.  Well, it would be worth the walk there, but the refreshment of the frozen goodie would be lost on the walk home.

2016-04-12 8:54 AM
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haha thank you Stacey for moving us
2016-04-12 9:08 AM
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Glad the link was posted.  I never would have known to look for a new thread.



2016-04-12 9:30 AM
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Especially since this is not under main mentors' thread... When Janyne posted manatees and cow pictures I just thought it was all about the swimming cow and that we should all make some progress with our swimming ;p
2016-04-12 9:40 AM
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Hi Manatees,

This newbie needs a little advice. My training thus far has been focused on the 70.3 coming up in early June. My training has moved from a base phase to a build phase. It's been tough, but I've been able to keep up with it more or less. The plan basically has short workouts during the week and long rides and runs on the weekends.

This week, I'm heading out of town for a conference. The conference is really a morning, noon, and night affair and it'll be tough for me to get much training in (maybe a one hour run or so). Then, next weekend I have a sprint tri and an olympic the following two weekends. Bottom line is that that's three weekends in a row where I won't be getting the long run/ride in.

Here's the question. How would you train around the warmup races and travel? One school of thought is to build the races into the training (e.g., do the sprint at training pace, then afterwards get the extra time as suggested by the program). Another is that it's a race and I might as well go all out and, well, you know, race!

Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
2016-04-12 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by awm007

Hi Manatees,

This newbie needs a little advice. My training thus far has been focused on the 70.3 coming up in early June. My training has moved from a base phase to a build phase. It's been tough, but I've been able to keep up with it more or less. The plan basically has short workouts during the week and long rides and runs on the weekends.

This week, I'm heading out of town for a conference. The conference is really a morning, noon, and night affair and it'll be tough for me to get much training in (maybe a one hour run or so). Then, next weekend I have a sprint tri and an olympic the following two weekends. Bottom line is that that's three weekends in a row where I won't be getting the long run/ride in.

Here's the question. How would you train around the warmup races and travel? One school of thought is to build the races into the training (e.g., do the sprint at training pace, then afterwards get the extra time as suggested by the program). Another is that it's a race and I might as well go all out and, well, you know, race!

Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.



For my "warm up" race (really just race to race and have fun), a couple of weeks ago, I did the race then afterwards rode my bike 2.5 more hours. Then did long run the next day (Saturday race). Normally I'd have done a 5 hr ride, and in the end I only did 3.5 hrs total on Saturday to take into account the much higher level of effort during the 1 hr of the race.

If you have a Sunday race, I'd go ahead and do the long ride on Saturday then do the race Sunday. If you think you need to get a few more miles in of running after the sprint then go ahead. For the olympic I'd just call it a day.
2016-04-12 11:51 AM
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Originally posted by amd723

Drive by post as I'm still in the mountains, Looks like everyone had great races - congrats to all! And Matt, I'm sure next week you'll have a great race too

Ooooh ohhh what are you doing in the mountains? What mountains? PEAKed my interest for sure

2016-04-12 11:52 AM
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It sounds like there were some great racing experiences and good lessons learned over the weekend. Congrats guys. Even when the result is not what you wanted it is always so, so valuable. 



2016-04-12 11:57 AM
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I had a really stellar key marathon workout on Saturday (10 mile run  followed by 6 miles at marathon pace) then got really sick Sunday and yesterday. Not sure if it was food poisoning, the flu or possibly a gallbladder issue. Just massive pain and nausea and fever. I feel much better today but the pain in my upper stomach is still present. To the point I may take another (sighhhh) day off of running. But we will see. It's always so hard making the right call of when to take a day or not when you are in the middle of training. 

2016-04-12 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

I had a really stellar key marathon workout on Saturday (10 mile run  followed by 6 miles at marathon pace) then got really sick Sunday and yesterday. Not sure if it was food poisoning, the flu or possibly a gallbladder issue. Just massive pain and nausea and fever. I feel much better today but the pain in my upper stomach is still present. To the point I may take another (sighhhh) day off of running. But we will see. It's always so hard making the right call of when to take a day or not when you are in the middle of training. 




Oh no... I hope you feel better soon :/ I hate stomach-ache...
2016-04-12 12:36 PM
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Originally posted by Jet Black
Originally posted by awm007 Hi Manatees, This newbie needs a little advice. My training thus far has been focused on the 70.3 coming up in early June. My training has moved from a base phase to a build phase. It's been tough, but I've been able to keep up with it more or less. The plan basically has short workouts during the week and long rides and runs on the weekends. This week, I'm heading out of town for a conference. The conference is really a morning, noon, and night affair and it'll be tough for me to get much training in (maybe a one hour run or so). Then, next weekend I have a sprint tri and an olympic the following two weekends. Bottom line is that that's three weekends in a row where I won't be getting the long run/ride in. Here's the question. How would you train around the warmup races and travel? One school of thought is to build the races into the training (e.g., do the sprint at training pace, then afterwards get the extra time as suggested by the program). Another is that it's a race and I might as well go all out and, well, you know, race! Any thoughts or suggestions would be much appreciated.
For my "warm up" race (really just race to race and have fun), a couple of weeks ago, I did the race then afterwards rode my bike 2.5 more hours. Then did long run the next day (Saturday race). Normally I'd have done a 5 hr ride, and in the end I only did 3.5 hrs total on Saturday to take into account the much higher level of effort during the 1 hr of the race. If you have a Sunday race, I'd go ahead and do the long ride on Saturday then do the race Sunday. If you think you need to get a few more miles in of running after the sprint then go ahead. For the olympic I'd just call it a day.

I think it is really important to get as many of the long sessions in as possible.  Like Sean said, there is no reason why you can't go ahead and race and then get in most of your long ride.  I've even done long runs after a race but will usually cut it back a bit and consider the overall effort for the day.

The travel might be more of a challenge to getting your weekly workload in depending on access to water and some form of cycling apparatus.  Usually when I travel the first thing I look at in my accommodations is pool and fitness center.  Ideally I can get both but if a place has a stationary bike of some type and maybe a treadmill you can get in some training.

2016-04-12 12:40 PM
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Originally posted by Asalzwed

I had a really stellar key marathon workout on Saturday (10 mile run  followed by 6 miles at marathon pace) then got really sick Sunday and yesterday. Not sure if it was food poisoning, the flu or possibly a gallbladder issue. Just massive pain and nausea and fever. I feel much better today but the pain in my upper stomach is still present. To the point I may take another (sighhhh) day off of running. But we will see. It's always so hard making the right call of when to take a day or not when you are in the middle of training. 

Sorry to hear of your discomfort.  I hope you feel better ASAP.  As tough as it is, I don't think you can go wrong taking a another day off if you need to.

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