Fit help for a newbie...
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2016-06-30 7:57 PM |
5 | Subject: Fit help for a newbie... Hi guys! Would love some fit advice... At this point I can't manage to make it to a fitter anytime soon... anything to change? I'm 5'10.5 and this is a 54 P3 Pics: http://imgur.com/a/obuoB Edited by wowst12 2016-06-30 7:59 PM |
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2016-06-30 8:26 PM in reply to: 0 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... I'm guessing those pics are static ? You probably angle your foot differently when you pedal. You knee angle is a little open but I bet that's because the pic is static A video would be more telling Edited by marcag 2016-06-30 8:26 PM |
2016-06-30 8:31 PM in reply to: 0 |
5 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Double post Edited by wowst12 2016-06-30 8:33 PM |
2016-06-30 8:33 PM in reply to: marcag |
5 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by marcag I'm guessing those pics are static ? You probably angle your foot differently when you pedal. You knee angle is a little open but I bet that's because the pic is static A video would be more telling True, here's a video https://youtu.be/5OHYkXTGdHs |
2016-07-01 5:30 AM in reply to: wowst12 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by wowst12 Originally posted by marcag I'm guessing those pics are static ? You probably angle your foot differently when you pedal. You knee angle is a little open but I bet that's because the pic is static A video would be more telling True, here's a video https://youtu.be/5OHYkXTGdHs I would experiment with got forward with the seat, down and a bit forward in front. You are much better than many. |
2016-07-01 6:47 AM in reply to: marcag |
5 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by wowst12 Originally posted by marcag I'm guessing those pics are static ? You probably angle your foot differently when you pedal. You knee angle is a little open but I bet that's because the pic is static A video would be more telling True, here's a video https://youtu.be/5OHYkXTGdHs I would experiment with got forward with the seat, down and a bit forward in front. You are much better than many. Can you please elaborate on this? Move post down move saddle forward What do you mean by down and a bit forward in front? |
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2016-07-01 6:59 AM in reply to: wowst12 |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by wowst12 Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by wowst12 Originally posted by marcag I'm guessing those pics are static ? You probably angle your foot differently when you pedal. You knee angle is a little open but I bet that's because the pic is static A video would be more telling True, here's a video https://youtu.be/5OHYkXTGdHs I would experiment with got forward with the seat, down and a bit forward in front. You are much better than many. Can you please elaborate on this? Move post down move saddle forward What do you mean by down and a bit forward in front? The idea is to rotate your entire body counter clockwise (from the non drive side), around the bottom bracket. So your seat goes slightly forward (maybe a bit up to preserve seat height). Your pads go forward and a bit down. As I said, take the pic, rotate it counter clockwise around the BB. All your angles of your body are preserved. You are just riding steeper and lower in front. You seem to be far enough back that you can do this. Not sure, pictures are not ideal. At one point going too far forward can cause other problems, such as power production. Your bike seems to have the ability to go lower in front by removing a few spacers. Whether moving forward in the front or not is not clear. Not sure your pad or extensions allow this or if it's needed. That you would have to experiment with ME, because of my position, I can move the equivalent of 5cm forward for 3cm down and 3cm forward. OR part of that, for example 2.5/1.5/1.5. I am not saying this would be a better fit, I'm saying I would try it to see if I can get lower in front, as comfortable and not compromise power production. I would get an app on an iphone or ipad and measure angles. I would be very methodical in measuring everything before and after |
2016-07-01 7:21 AM in reply to: marcag |
538 Brooklyn, New York | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Not that I'm a tt bike expert. I am STILL playing with my position. I feel like I am irritating my LBS lol But couldn't he flip the stem to more negative without changing seat position to start with? |
2016-07-01 7:25 AM in reply to: TJHammer |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by TJHammer Not that I'm a tt bike expert. I am STILL playing with my position. I feel like I am irritating my LBS lol But couldn't he flip the stem to more negative without changing seat position to start with? Sure he can. BUT, all he is doing is going down in the front, closing his hip angle. At one point you will compromise power production. A closed hip is one of the reasons people produce less watts on their tri bike. FYI, theoretically, removing spacers is more aero that flipping stems. Theoretically |
2016-07-01 7:25 AM in reply to: wowst12 |
Pro 5892 , New Hampshire | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... It's actually a pretty good fit. You're a little tall in front, but not extremely so. If you're not very flexible and/or you race longer distances, I would keep it the way it is. If you're only doing sprint and TT's, then it would be beneficial to drop the front slightly, move forward slightly. Otherwise, keep it. |
2016-07-01 7:46 AM in reply to: marcag |
538 Brooklyn, New York | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by TJHammer Not that I'm a tt bike expert. I am STILL playing with my position. I feel like I am irritating my LBS lol But couldn't he flip the stem to more negative without changing seat position to start with? Sure he can. BUT, all he is doing is going down in the front, closing his hip angle. At one point you will compromise power production. A closed hip is one of the reasons people produce less watts on their tri bike. FYI, theoretically, removing spacers is more aero that flipping stems. Theoretically Why I brought up that point, because I'm in the same spot as the OP playing with position. I'm sure many can atest to this, when a tt position is new for you ....you're constantly asking yourself " should I this feel this way...should my triceps be working this hard to balance me, how often is too often when fixing myself back on the saddle.....are my hips open TOO much.....should I decrease angle in the saddle, should I go wider/narrow my pads, etc etc etc" You're making me consider taking out my remaining spacers instead of flipping the stem back down |
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2016-07-01 7:46 AM in reply to: 0 |
3 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Edited by Hydark 2016-07-01 7:52 AM |
2016-07-01 7:55 AM in reply to: marcag |
5 | Subject: RE: Fit help for a newbie... Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by TJHammer Not that I'm a tt bike expert. I am STILL playing with my position. I feel like I am irritating my LBS lol But couldn't he flip the stem to more negative without changing seat position to start with? Sure he can. BUT, all he is doing is going down in the front, closing his hip angle. At one point you will compromise power production. A closed hip is one of the reasons people produce less watts on their tri bike. FYI, theoretically, removing spacers is more aero that flipping stems. Theoretically I agree, I definitely have 1-2cm of spacers there, however I'm concerned about comfort for longer races. As it is my neck is kinda sore this morning. Im also concerned about lack of control with going lower via stem flip not to mention having my knee hit my chest |
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