Manatee Mentors 2016 - Manatee à trois (Page 53)

Originally posted by StaceyK Got back to work today, after being away for meetings, and found this Last year it was balloons so I'm thinking that I shouldn't go away for meetings around my birthday. Or I need to give K (who is my assistant as well as a great friend) more work to do so she doesn't have time for these kinds of shenanigans

Originally posted by amd723

TJ, you seem to have typed in invisible ink   

ETA: nevermind, the words have mysteriously appeared!! 

Originally posted by juniperjen

Hilarious! And happy belated birthday!! :D 

Originally posted by brigby1

The disappearing happened to me earlier too.

Originally posted by TXTriRook x2. That's some serious creativity! As for pop tarts, I'm also not a big fan. Toaster strudel's on the other hand....I could eat those by the box!

Originally posted by ceilidh

Wow. I am humbled and promise to stop whining about..... anything.

Originally posted by abake Manatees -- I know this has been discussed before, probably numerous times, but can we chat about nutrition? What is your go-to for races, training, etc.? For IMFL, I relied on Infinit. Worked great in training, not so good on race day. I've been using Skratch for hydration combined with real food for long bike rides. This works great but it's a little cumbersome preparing and storing the food. And that system definitely won't work for a longer course triathlon. I ordered some samples of Tailwind to try out. It has no protein, so maybe that will set better than the Infinit. Has anyone tried this? What about UCAN? Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! Anne

Originally posted by abake Manatees -- I know this has been discussed before, probably numerous times, but can we chat about nutrition? What is your go-to for races, training, etc.? For IMFL, I relied on Infinit. Worked great in training, not so good on race day. I've been using Skratch for hydration combined with real food for long bike rides. This works great but it's a little cumbersome preparing and storing the food. And that system definitely won't work for a longer course triathlon. I ordered some samples of Tailwind to try out. It has no protein, so maybe that will set better than the Infinit. Has anyone tried this? What about UCAN? Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks! Anne

Originally posted by amd723

I've not raced a 140.6, only gone 70.3, so my nutrition needs were different than yours.  But, at one point I played around with Infinit and as I recall, you can change around the formula as needed.  Can you still do that? If so, maybe drop the protein down a bit on your formula?

Other than that, I'll let Janyne and other long coursers chime in!

Originally posted by abake

Manatees --
I know this has been discussed before, probably numerous times, but can we chat about nutrition? What is your go-to for races, training, etc.? For IMFL, I relied on Infinit. Worked great in training, not so good on race day. I've been using Skratch for hydration combined with real food for long bike rides. This works great but it's a little cumbersome preparing and storing the food. And that system definitely won't work for a longer course triathlon.

I ordered some samples of Tailwind to try out. It has no protein, so maybe that will set better than the Infinit. Has anyone tried this?

What about UCAN?

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!
Anne

Originally posted by abake

Manatees --
I know this has been discussed before, probably numerous times, but can we chat about nutrition? What is your go-to for races, training, etc.? For IMFL, I relied on Infinit. Worked great in training, not so good on race day. I've been using Skratch for hydration combined with real food for long bike rides. This works great but it's a little cumbersome preparing and storing the food. And that system definitely won't work for a longer course triathlon.

I ordered some samples of Tailwind to try out. It has no protein, so maybe that will set better than the Infinit. Has anyone tried this?

What about UCAN?

Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks!
Anne

Originally posted by amd723

I've not raced a 140.6, only gone 70.3, so my nutrition needs were different than yours.  But, at one point I played around with Infinit and as I recall, you can change around the formula as needed.  Can you still do that? If so, maybe drop the protein down a bit on your formula?

Other than that, I'll let Janyne and other long coursers chime in!

Originally posted by fortissimo I used UCAN for my 2014 season. While it worked well on my first 70.3, my second was a different story. I never want to taste UCAN again. I prefer Skratch to Gatorade. that said, when I did IM Boulder I trained with the orange Gatorade on the bike and the Lemon-Lime on my long runs. I did try BASE amino on the run and loved the taste and it made me feel great, until my throat became very scratchy and i started wheezing. Turns out it had strawberry flavoring and Stevia, which I'm allergic to. For my IM I relied on Bonk Breakers for the first half of the bike but still didn't take in enough calories. At special needs I had a peanut butter and honey sandwich waiting for me and that literally probably saved my race! For the last third of the bike, i had to switch from Bonk Breakers to gels because my i was suddenly having troubles swallowing. Because my coach had me train with what I was used to, and then threw in a long bike that said "change your nutrition" I had no problems switching mid-race. For the run I used gels but did try a few other things on the course. This year I did a mix of dark chocolate and Lara Bites by Lara Bar on the bike and had much more energy going into the run. I also never had GI issues. On the run I still stick to GU but on my last race I tried a Honey Stinger waffle when I ran out of GU.

Originally posted by brigby1

Since it was fine in training, I'm first wondering what was different between training and the race? The report says issues showed up only 10 miles into the bike, so it may have been something else. Since it was Florida, that would mean a saltwater swim, which can mess people up if they're not used to it. It's different than freshwater, tends to be more upsetting. Then the swells. It is the Gulf instead of the open ocean, but it's still way bigger than any inland body of water. Even relatively minor ups & downs can be unsettling as that's not really seen as much in smaller bodies of water. Although Lake Michigan has been having small craft advisories quite regularly the past months (warnings of 6 ft swells or more).

By all means keep looking to simplify. Just know that the issue from before may not have been from the nutrition itself. I can't take anything if my stomach is upset.

Originally posted by amd723

I've not raced a 140.6, only gone 70.3, so my nutrition needs were different than yours.  But, at one point I played around with Infinit and as I recall, you can change around the formula as needed.  Can you still do that? If so, maybe drop the protein down a bit on your formula?

Other than that, I'll let Janyne and other long coursers chime in!

Originally posted by cdban66

Yep, as a short course guy, my go to of Hammer may be different than what you are after. When I did 100 MoN last year (or any longer effort I've done for that matter), I use water and Hammer Gels. I'm a simple man and haven't worked through a bunch of other requirements though.

If Hammer Nutrition is a thought, DM me, I may be able to dig up a code for you. Not to be an #ad, but the Nocciola is yumtastic!

Originally posted by Hot Runner

Well, there's my somewhat unorthodox approach. Not sure I would solely rely on it for full IM, though. For HIM on the bike, I have a big bar of dark chocolate with mint that I eat in small increments. In some cases, I have stopped the chocolate with 30 minutes to go and done a gu for my last "feed". In other cases, I have eaten the chocolate up until the end of the bike. In one case (Toughman last year), as I was extricating an uneaten gu from my bento box in T2 (decided I wanted that flavor on the run), I found a square of uneaten chocolate and shoved it in my mouth as I was running out of T2. I have done the chocolate, plus or minus one gu,as my bike nutrition for my last five HIM now, with no GI issues or bonking. That included a 5:16 and a Worlds qualification. I tend to start gagging on gu after #2 or 3, and occasionally, even after #1. I have actually puked on gu on the bike. It's the texture--think I have an overactive gag reflex or something! There are really only two flavors/brands of gu I can reliably get down. I have also had major stomach issues with liquid nutrition, particularly in hot weather, and have pretty much concluded I'm not the target market for sports nutrition products!

Eating solid stuff on the run is pretty inconvenient (don't know about others, but I find running and chewing at the same time really hard), so I have to save my "gu allotment" mostly for the run. I use Nuun for hydration. I'm sure there's some product out there that I could find that I could tolerate, or I could work with Infinit until I figured out exactly what it was about liquid nutrition that makes me puke, but it isn't available here, and I would have to haul all my training and race nutrition from the US and store it for months at a time. Excellent dark chocolate is available at the corner store and in most places I might race, in the event that I somehow forgot or lost my stash.

In training, I sometimes use other solid foods on the bike, mostly energy bars, but the flavors I like aren't available here (right now, the only "bar" that has been available since late August has been Nature Valley Apple Cinnamon!) so that would mostly be in the US, My go-tos are the Cliff Mojo sweet and salty flavors (mostly peanut butter pretzel and chocolate coconut almond), Cliff Cool Mint Chocolate (has caffeine!), and sometimes Pro Bar. I have used the Mojo bars without issue in a HIM, but they aren't available locally and don't keep that well, so I haven't used them much when living here.

Originally posted by TXTriRook



I've also only done 70.3's but since discovering Hammer products I haven't deviated much. I use Hammer Perpetuem, which has some protein in it, for long rides and have been using Heed on shorter rides and their gels on runs. If I feel like something solid I tend to have a honey stinger waffle (yet to find a flavor I don't like) in my bento box/nearby but personally I have a hard time stomaching what I consider real solid food like Bonk Breakers/other bars especially during races.

Originally posted by fortissimo



I used UCAN for my 2014 season. While it worked well on my first 70.3, my second was a different story. I never want to taste UCAN again.

I prefer Skratch to Gatorade. that said, when I did IM Boulder I trained with the orange Gatorade on the bike and the Lemon-Lime on my long runs. I did try BASE amino on the run and loved the taste and it made me feel great, until my throat became very scratchy and i started wheezing. Turns out it had strawberry flavoring and Stevia, which I'm allergic to.

For my IM I relied on Bonk Breakers for the first half of the bike but still didn't take in enough calories. At special needs I had a peanut butter and honey sandwich waiting for me and that literally probably saved my race! For the last third of the bike, i had to switch from Bonk Breakers to gels because my i was suddenly having troubles swallowing. Because my coach had me train with what I was used to, and then threw in a long bike that said "change your nutrition" I had no problems switching mid-race.

For the run I used gels but did try a few other things on the course.

This year I did a mix of dark chocolate and Lara Bites by Lara Bar on the bike and had much more energy going into the run. I also never had GI issues. On the run I still stick to GU but on my last race I tried a Honey Stinger waffle when I ran out of GU.

Originally posted by jmkizer

I use EFS-LS + Clif Shot Bloks on the bike.  Not too exciting but it's been working.  For a full IM, I use three of each.