Tri Coach recmomendations
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2016-07-29 2:50 PM |
Member 178 Sioux Falls, SD | Subject: Tri Coach recmomendations I'm looking at getting a coach for the first time, starting this off-season. Looking for an online coaching type set-up, where they give me workouts to do and follow up weekly. Focusing mostly on Ironman distance. With a plethora of athletes that have coaches on here, I'm wondering what other people recommend. And anything else you think I should keep in mind as well. |
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2016-07-29 3:52 PM in reply to: buckeyeguy77 |
Member 178 Sioux Falls, SD | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Recommendations* rather |
2016-07-29 5:45 PM in reply to: #5193234 |
136 | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Hi www.triarhloncoaching.uk.com are great, online programmes for your training needs, loads of online support, easy access to coaches, very quick email responses. |
2016-07-30 8:43 AM in reply to: #5193254 |
Veteran 720 Aurora, Illinois | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Hey there! Check out my site: www.TZcoaching.com Feel free to shoot me a note too and we can chat more see how I can help out! |
2016-07-31 3:04 PM in reply to: tzcoaching |
Member 20 | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations buckeyeguy77: I'm curious if there is a reason you want a strict "online" option? Often times a better option is coaching with dynamic plans... as opposed to getting a boiler plate schedule that's been used for a bunch of athletes and is not adjusted based on your performance, set backs, etc. |
2016-07-31 4:17 PM in reply to: dabrosca |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by dabrosca buckeyeguy77: I'm curious if there is a reason you want a strict "online" option? Often times a better option is coaching with dynamic plans... as opposed to getting a boiler plate schedule that's been used for a bunch of athletes and is not adjusted based on your performance, set backs, etc. Why are you assuming that online means canned plan? Shane |
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2016-07-31 4:22 PM in reply to: buckeyeguy77 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Depends on what you're looking for and how much you're willing to spend but here are a few I'd check out: Francois Modave Brian Stover Don Larkin (posts here) Mike Ricci (posts here) Suzanne Atkinson (posts here) There are tons of coaches but there aren't nearly as many good coaches. There are a few threads here on what to ask a prospective coach - worth checking out as the interview should give you the ability to separate good from bad and then narrow down the good to those who would be a good fit. Good luck in your search, Shane |
2016-07-31 4:56 PM in reply to: gsmacleod |
Extreme Veteran 1175 Langley, BC, 'Wet Coast' Canada | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations |
2016-07-31 5:24 PM in reply to: triosaurus |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by triosaurus Shane, Are you taking on any clients? I have one spot available at the moment. Shane |
2016-08-01 1:08 PM in reply to: gsmacleod |
Member 178 Sioux Falls, SD | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. |
2016-08-01 2:23 PM in reply to: buckeyeguy77 |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. I'm looking for something similar. I appreciate the list of recommendations. I'm nervous about selecting/interviewing someone. I had an awesome coach and she retired from coaching in the spring. I feel like I need some help with the selection process after I had a bad coaching experience recently. I don't know how all of this is supposed to work. |
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2016-08-01 2:42 PM in reply to: #5193286 |
Veteran 720 Aurora, Illinois | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Feel free to shoot me a note. Will be happy to walk you thru the process, answer any questions and help figure out what would work best for you! |
2016-08-01 2:43 PM in reply to: jmkizer |
Extreme Veteran 5722 | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. I'm looking for something similar. I appreciate the list of recommendations. I'm nervous about selecting/interviewing someone. I had an awesome coach and she retired from coaching in the spring. I feel like I need some help with the selection process after I had a bad coaching experience recently. I don't know how all of this is supposed to work. The selection process is the hard part The problem with recommendations is that a coach that is good for athlete A may not be compatible with athlete B. There is one coach on Shane's list that I used and he is amazing. Probably one of the best coaches in tri. Would he be compatible/optimal with all athletes? I really doubt it. There are others on that list I am sure are the same. I ended up working with 5 friends and/or friends of friends and 3 were amazing and 2 less amazing. Not anyone's fault, just big differences in approaches |
2016-08-01 2:58 PM in reply to: 0 |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by gsmacleod Depends on what you're looking for and how much you're willing to spend but here are a few I'd check out: Francois Modave Brian Stover Don Larkin (posts here) Mike Ricci (posts here) Suzanne Atkinson (posts here) There are tons of coaches but there aren't nearly as many good coaches. There are a few threads here on what to ask a prospective coach - worth checking out as the interview should give you the ability to separate good from bad and then narrow down the good to those who would be a good fit. Good luck in your search, Shane Thanks for the recommendation, Shane. I work with most athletes year-round, changing the training focus and objectives throughout the year, with goals for both short term and long term athlete development, but have two "once and done" IMers dropping off by the end of August. (one just raced IMLP and the other is racing IMMT) As of September 1, I'll have openings for 3 athletes. For someone with long term goals, or their first long course race the following year, when this year's races are winding down in the fall can be a good time to start working with a coach. One of the mistakes I see people make is thinking if they're targeting an IM, and most stock plans are 16-20 weeks, then that's all the farther out before a race they should start with a coach. That can cause an athlete to miss out on much of the benefits of being coached instead of going it alone. My specialty is the average AGer trying to get faster or tackle their first long course race, but they have either physical limitations due to a past injury or chronic illness, or a constantly changing schedule that makes using generic plans nearly impossible. We optimize their training to get the best performance despite the limitations imposed by their health or time constraints. I should also note that, along with the other coaches Shane mentioned, he is one of the people I'd personally consider if I were looking for a coach.
Edited by TriMyBest 2016-08-01 3:04 PM |
2016-08-01 3:02 PM in reply to: marcag |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by marcag Originally posted by jmkizer The selection process is the hard part The problem with recommendations is that a coach that is good for athlete A may not be compatible with athlete B. There is one coach on Shane's list that I used and he is amazing. Probably one of the best coaches in tri. Would he be compatible/optimal with all athletes? I really doubt it. There are others on that list I am sure are the same. I ended up working with 5 friends and/or friends of friends and 3 were amazing and 2 less amazing. Not anyone's fault, just big differences in approaches Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. I'm looking for something similar. I appreciate the list of recommendations. I'm nervous about selecting/interviewing someone. I had an awesome coach and she retired from coaching in the spring. I feel like I need some help with the selection process after I had a bad coaching experience recently. I don't know how all of this is supposed to work. Marc's advice is excellent. This is the sort of great information that you'll find in the other threads about selecting a coach. Spend some time researching, interviewing, and putting some thought into the decision before pulling the trigger. IMO, assuming a basic level of competency, compatibility between the coach and athlete is the most important thing to look for.
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2016-08-01 3:08 PM in reply to: TriMyBest |
Master 9705 Raleigh, NC area | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Thanks all! |
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2016-08-01 5:24 PM in reply to: buckeyeguy77 |
1508 Cypress, Texas | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. What's wrong with a canned plan? I know of champion teams that have set workouts that are part of their tradition and heritage. They wouldn't dare change their plan because they feel it is part of their success, so if there are hundreds of athletes that have followed a canned plan and shown dramatic improvements from what they were doing before wouldn't you welcome the same canned plan? |
2016-08-01 5:45 PM in reply to: BlueBoy26 |
Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by BlueBoy26 Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. What's wrong with a canned plan? I know of champion teams that have set workouts that are part of their tradition and heritage. They wouldn't dare change their plan because they feel it is part of their success, so if there are hundreds of athletes that have followed a canned plan and shown dramatic improvements from what they were doing before wouldn't you welcome the same canned plan? Do you believe that someone new to the sport should be on the same training plan as say...Javier Gomez or Lionel Sanders? |
2016-08-02 9:42 AM in reply to: BlueBoy26 |
Elite 7783 PEI, Canada | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by BlueBoy26 Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. What's wrong with a canned plan? I know of champion teams that have set workouts that are part of their tradition and heritage. They wouldn't dare change their plan because they feel it is part of their success, so if there are hundreds of athletes that have followed a canned plan and shown dramatic improvements from what they were doing before wouldn't you welcome the same canned plan? Canned plans can and do work well for many people. For others, not so much. I followed some canned plans for a few years, they made me stronger and I got faster in races. Then I hired a coach (Shane) and I got a lot faster, a lot sooner. |
2016-08-02 9:48 AM in reply to: axteraa |
Pro 6011 Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by BlueBoy26 Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. What's wrong with a canned plan? I know of champion teams that have set workouts that are part of their tradition and heritage. They wouldn't dare change their plan because they feel it is part of their success, so if there are hundreds of athletes that have followed a canned plan and shown dramatic improvements from what they were doing before wouldn't you welcome the same canned plan? Canned plans can and do work well for many people. For others, not so much. I followed some canned plans for a few years, they made me stronger and I got faster in races. Then I hired a coach (Shane) and I got a lot faster, a lot sooner. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a good canned plan, but they're still rarely going to provide the optimum results for an individual. Think of it this way, if a canned plan approximates 80% of an optimum training regimen for an athlete, they're likely to see some pretty nice results. Definitely much better than they likely achieved in the past following a haphazard approach to their training. If that same athlete were to have access to a custom regimen for them that achieves 95% of optimum, they're going to have better results.
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2016-08-02 1:43 PM in reply to: TriMyBest |
261 | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by TriMyBest Originally posted by axteraa Originally posted by BlueBoy26 Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. What's wrong with a canned plan? I know of champion teams that have set workouts that are part of their tradition and heritage. They wouldn't dare change their plan because they feel it is part of their success, so if there are hundreds of athletes that have followed a canned plan and shown dramatic improvements from what they were doing before wouldn't you welcome the same canned plan? Canned plans can and do work well for many people. For others, not so much. I followed some canned plans for a few years, they made me stronger and I got faster in races. Then I hired a coach (Shane) and I got a lot faster, a lot sooner. Yeah, there's nothing wrong with a good canned plan, but they're still rarely going to provide the optimum results for an individual. Think of it this way, if a canned plan approximates 80% of an optimum training regimen for an athlete, they're likely to see some pretty nice results. Definitely much better than they likely achieved in the past following a haphazard approach to their training. If that same athlete were to have access to a custom regimen for them that achieves 95% of optimum, they're going to have better results.
I've been self-coached for my triathlons so far (3+ years in) For my HIMs (no IMs yet), I've followed canned plans. 1 beginner plan from TriRadar. 1 intermediate plan from TrainingPeaks (Gale Bernhardt), and this year I'm following a Trainerroad triathlon plans. There have really been minimal difference between the three. I think trainerroad is a little different in that you follow their indoor bike workouts. Other than that they're all mostly similar in how each week's workouts are setup. I just assume that with a coach, one gets a little more customization based on the athlete's goals/strengths/weaknesses, has the coach to analyze an athlete's workouts, and make adjustments to the plan if necessary. |
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2016-08-03 7:32 AM in reply to: Jason N |
1508 Cypress, Texas | Subject: RE: Tri Coach recmomendations Originally posted by Jason N Originally posted by BlueBoy26 Originally posted by buckeyeguy77 Thanks you guys. I definitely don't want a "boiler plate" training plan. I want an online coach that reviews your workouts and goals, and changes your workouts based on feedback they receive. I'll check out some of the options mentioned. What's wrong with a canned plan? I know of champion teams that have set workouts that are part of their tradition and heritage. They wouldn't dare change their plan because they feel it is part of their success, so if there are hundreds of athletes that have followed a canned plan and shown dramatic improvements from what they were doing before wouldn't you welcome the same canned plan? Do you believe that someone new to the sport should be on the same training plan as say...Javier Gomez or Lionel Sanders? Absolutely!!! If they can't do at least 25 hours of training a week then they they shouldn't even attempt a local sprint triathlon. :-) |
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