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2016-10-31 6:11 AM


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Subject: Max Heart rates
Hello All,
I need to pose a question about Max heart rates
about me first
age 39
weight 192lb
Resting heart rate 45bpm
Highest register max heart rate 155bpm done on a cycle test 10 minutes easy at a cadence of 90 then maintaining a cadence of 90 every 2 minutes go up a gear until you can not hold the cadence at 90 then 10 minute cool down

I am about to start my training from my first Iron Distance tri which is next year, and I am interested in doing heart rate zone training. all the calculators state my max should be in the 180's however as I have never ever seen this number.
I seem to hold a good pace on both bike and foot with an average hear rate of around 140bpm.
my question is what should I Set as my max heart rate so that I can zone train?

any advice will be well received!!

thanks guys!!


2016-10-31 6:51 AM
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Your max HR test is a pretty decent indication of what your max is on the bike (and it's pretty close to mine, which is around 152).  I think there's a calculator out there that will take your max and resting and set up your zones for you.  Your running HR generally will be a little higher (mine is 160).  Therefore your zones for each will be a little different. 

2016-10-31 7:06 AM
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Subject: RE: Max Heart rates
Many thanks Mike
Do you use a zone based training regime?
if so how does it work for you?
2016-10-31 7:16 AM
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I've been training long enough now that I use power on the bike and pace on the run and swim as my training guidelines.  For HR I just use it as another piece of data, or to make sure that I'm not running too fast on my slower runs.  I did have some success, especially on making sure I didn't overcook the bike during races, using HR as my primary effort indicator.

<edit> Realized I didn't actually answer your question...yes, I use zone-based training for both the run and bike, but they're power- or pace-based with HR as an additional "check".



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2016-10-31 8:11 AM
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Subject: RE: Max Heart rates
That is a pretty normal "max" heart rate for the bike. The fact that it's a little lower than some programs show is probably due to the test setup and conditions as well as individual differences between people (due to things like body size, age, gender) and not of concern. Mine on bike tests is in the 160's, but I'm female and considerably smaller than you; also doing the test in pretty warm conditions, so that makes sense.

With that the protocol you mentioned, your HR might not go up as much as on the standard 20-minute threshold test where gearing and cadence are up to you. At least in my case (not sure about others?) I am going to be hitting cadences above 90 (I think I average 95-98), and cycling at a higher cadence tends to tax the cardio system more (yielding higher heart rates) than pedaling more slowly in a big gear. (But maybe that is just the way I do the tests--at 115-117 pounds, with biking not being my strength, I can hold a higher power for 20 minutes by taxing the engine more than the legs!) HR is also heavily influenced by temperature, as well as other variables like caffeine, hydration, etc. If the programs are based on a threshold test, I would check what protocol is used, do a test, and use that HR to set your zones.

Prior to getting a power meter, I did most of my bike training by heart rate, and still use it for most of my harder run training. It's a useful metric, but not so much as power as it varies from day to day depending on some of the factors I mentioned above. It can be very hard to compare workouts done in different weather conditions, for example, or indoor vs. outdoor workouts in my case (where temps can differ by as much as 30 degrees). I have basically had to set different zones for run training here in Saigon (in hot, humid conditions) and at home in Oregon (almost always cool when I run).
2016-10-31 9:25 AM
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Subject: RE: Max Heart rates

Hiya Purch, welcome to BT

If you're interested in HR training, this is absolutely required reading:

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=25733&page=1#

The short answer is that no calculator/equation/calculation is going to give you accurate info. Max HR isn't a particularly useful metric for HR training. 

If you don't want to lay down the $$$ for a powermeter, if you have an indoor trainer that you put your bike on, trainerroad.com will get you pretty close in terms of virtual power. But HR training is fine, if tested, set, and used correctly.

Good luck.



2016-11-01 2:27 PM
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If you are decently well trained you should to a LTHR test for both the bike and the run. Then set your HR from those.

You will probably find they are different for the run and for the bike. That's pretty normal.

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