Fueling

Originally posted by gsmacleod

I would say, with 95% certainty, that you cramped at both events because you outraced your fitness, not due to over or under fueling.

Shane

Originally posted by Rooster519

May I ask what brings you to that thought? I ask because training for Racine I had trained to an 10:30 pace on the run and was running a 10:40 average when things went south. My bike split was even with what I had trained for with less distance. In the half marathon, I ten to agree more with you as I had trained to run a 2:30 and still came in under that. The cramping was not as bad at the half marathon.

Originally posted by Rooster519

Unfortunately I have never trained by power. Looking back what you are saying does make sense. Wind that day at Racine was somewhere near 17 mph if memory serves me right and I had never trained in wind like that. Reading that now with what you have said makes sense that I over did it. My bike pace was averaged faster than any other bike even close to that distance.

As for volume 12 weeks out my bike was 70 miles a week and run around 20 a week. Even as I train this year my averages are almost double that on the run, with my longest coming up this weekend at 15.

I appreciate the info. Honestly, it was tough to read that but it makes a ton of sense looking back. Guess it's why pacing is so important. Thanks again.

Originally posted by nc452010



This past Saturday was TERRIBLY windy, here (worst I've ever ridden in). I joked to my wife that I had more fun - the day I wrecked, last year (than I did riding in that wind).

I do train with power. My 52 mi. ride in the wind, Saturday, was done at +/- HIM power (for me). Same route Sunday.....much less wind.....and my mph avg. was +1.5 w/ a - 2 W NP. In other words, I worked less (than I did in the wind) and went faster.

At one point, I was pushing 230 W into the wind to go 14 mph, Saturday. If you don't have a PM, you don't realize you're burning these matches. I'm not advocating you buy one. In writing all this, I'm simply saying......you burnt a lot of matches in the wind, probably......which led to exactly what Shane told you

Originally posted by Rooster519

As summer is coming up soon and I'm training harder and for longer duration. I would like to discuss fueling. Yes, I know this is discussed every year and I have searched and thought I knew what I needed.

My first HIM was Racine last year, turned into a duathlon with a short bike. I had an issue late in the run even though I followed my nutrition on the bike, and run. For me, I like the gatorade chews. They are simple and easy to chew. Those coupled with 1.5 bottles of gatorade and 1 bottle of pure water got me through the 30 + mile ride and into the run. I take in less on the run, as that is usually what works for me. Just some water and gatorade at every aid station. At mile 9 my Achilles tendon cramp so badly, my toes curled. The next 4 miles were a slow dance of walk and stretch. Every time I ran it cramped again. The only thing I can think of is I took too much fluid during my run. This had happened again 2 months later at a half marathon. The common factors, both were hot, I drank a ton. Never once did this happen during training. Even with a 45 mile bike and a 10 mile run brick. Yes, I did try salt, at both events with no help. Any theories??

Originally posted by Rileyvb91



May I make a suggestion with training? Try having a practice tri about 6-8 weeks out of your next half, go for about as long as you project to be out on the course. that means if you plan to finish in 6 hours have a 6 hour training day such as a 30 minute swim, a 4.5 hour ride and an hour run. I know it is a long workout but you will have the experience of being out there. I'm planning to do a 3 hour workout before my first oly race this year so I know I can make the distance and that it'll be a matter of execution