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2017-07-24 7:32 AM

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I see this comment quite a bit and I hear it quite a bit when talking with others. Why do we need to put a qualifier in that "I'm only doing the sprint"?

I have done the same race (NJ State Triathlon) for the past 6 years. The first 2 years were the sprint and then 3 years of Oly. This year due to work and life events, I just did not have time to properly train for the Oly and chose to do the sprint. Leading up to it, I felt like I really wasnt doing something, like I wasnt pushing hard enough because I was "only doing the sprint distance" You know what? It was great and I loved it! I was as satisfied after as I would have been after the Oly and felt alot better physically! I could see myself continuing with this distance forever and doing an Oly here or there.

No one who actually gets off their butts, trains and starts a Tri should ever feel the need to explain why they "only" did the sprint distance.


2017-07-24 8:05 AM
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I wholeheartedly agree!!! Sure, there are many triathletes who are on such a level that a sprint doesn't necessarily offer much challenge in terms of distance. But for the rest of us, a sprint is still a worthy goal, and in my opinion, a ton of fun!
2017-07-24 8:22 AM
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I cringe every time I hear someone (see someone) say "its just a sprint". Cause that is just BU!!. Sure, a sprint is a shorter distance. But man can you bust your butt trying to maximize speed over the entire distance. It is just a different challenge than the longer courses, not lesser.
2017-07-24 8:22 AM
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BTDT.  Doesn't matter what shape you are in, beginner to IM pro.  A sprint is, or very near, an all out effort for 1+ hours that puts a hurt'n on you!

2017-07-24 8:29 AM
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I've certainly been guilty of this not feeling as legit as others. But, after coming back to work after my first race one of my coworker announce what I'd done to the entire firm and there was nothing but support and congratulations and a bunch of awe. They just thought it was totally cool.

Of course, now I'm really annoying and trying to get others to do triathlons too
2017-07-24 8:37 AM
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Originally posted by Trine

I've certainly been guilty of this not feeling as legit as others. But, after coming back to work after my first race one of my coworker announce what I'd done to the entire firm and there was nothing but support and congratulations and a bunch of awe. They just thought it was totally cool.

Of course, now I'm really annoying and trying to get others to do triathlons too


I am always trying to get others into the sport, because I know most of them will probably enjoy it!


2017-07-24 9:06 AM
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Great topic to bring up and I 100% agree.

I do sprints also. I am also a member of a relay team. Next week, we are doing a HIM relay. It's almost as people say, "oh, you were on a relay"?

For those of you who also do running events, to me the "just a sprint" mentality is even more magnified. "Are you doing the half, or the full. I'm just doing the 10K...then it is ohh". This happens so many times. I actually really love the 10K, and over the years have found this race to have a lot of strategy to it on how I run it. Also, it is an absolute butt kicker if you want to go out and set a PR. Same with a 5K. Anyone want to red line it for 20 minutes or so and then say it was "just a 5K"?

It's not the race, and it's not the distance. It is how you do it, and how much you put into it. If you swim, bike, and run hard, a sprint tri is very demanding. Same with Duathlons for sure. People who may minimize some events should realize that you match the effort to the event, which becomes a great equalizer. I can't run a half marathon at the pace I run a 10K. Etc.
2017-07-24 9:17 AM
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Subject: RE: "It's Just a Sprint"
This is like telling Usain Bolt it's "just a 100m". Admittedly, it would be easier for most beginners to train to COMPLETE a sprint than a longer event. (Though still, it's not "just" a sprint for them.) But RACING a sprint is HARD. Personally, much of my worst suffering in races has happened in sprints--red-lining it so hard I felt like puking for some of the bike, all of the run, and for several hours afterwards in some cases. Likewise, anyone with a track background will tell you that the 800m is an evil, evil event. Not my specialty, and I probably didn't have the fast-twitch fibers to run fast enough to really kill myself, but the 3K and 5K were bad enough!
2017-07-24 9:34 AM
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Thank you for this post! As others said, a sprint is a completely different kind of beast. It's a different strategy and effort. It's basically... sprinting until you puke...!

I am debating signing up for Sprint this coming Sunday only because I would really love to make it under an hour, and it makes me wanna cry when I do the math and don't see how I could cut another 2 minutes!!
Now that you guys are discussing it, I feel challenged and maybe will register
2017-07-24 10:52 AM
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Great thread. I am guilty of that too. I say it because a sprint is what beginners start with. And in my case, after 4 years of sprints, I still do not consider myself a real triathlete mainly because I do sprints with pretty much only one goal: to finish them. Just like a "real" triathlete would aim to complete an IM.

I understand that not everybody is like me and that for the athlete that really competes in sprints (ie flat out for an hour or so, as it has been pointed out), it is not "just" a sprint, it's a tough thing to do!


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2017-07-24 11:00 AM
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Yes. A sprint can be tough. You go shorter so you can go harder. I say this because its the shortest distance. I usually drive at least an hour to my races so i feel its over too soon but like you training is limited so i might just spend the extra time exploring town and eating with friends.


2017-07-24 11:07 AM
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Nothing exposes me as "not an athlete" quite like a sprint.
Which by extension, further cements the athleticism, for sure, of top performers...or even "solid performers" in a sprint.

2017-07-24 11:23 AM
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Valid points. I think a lot of it comes from the significant bias (real or perceived) shown toward long course. Those are the "sexy" races, with that cool moniker, Ironman, and tattoos, etc. 

I originally had a long term goal of doing a 70.3 (zero interest in 140.6). Now, I'm thinking I don't want to do one. I really like the sprint distance, if for no reason other than they're shorter, and the training is easier to fit into my schedule. It doesn't cost an arm and a leg to do one. The standard distance is also quite nice for the same reasons, albeit with more of an endurance component.

2017-07-24 12:22 PM
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I'm not sure why (many) people seem to think there's some prestige in racing the longer distances than there is in racing the shorter distances.  A sub-hour sprint is not something one "just" does.....same with something like a 15 minute 5k.  Why do (some) people think this is any less of an accomplishment than an Ironman or a marathon?  I don't get it at all!

In fact, I find sprints harder to race than HIM's.....I'm the kind of person who's built to go for a long time at a slow burn, so when you ask me to redline from the very start, it hurts in a whole different way!  I have a lot of respect for people who race these short races....and also for those who train for and race the longer races.

 

2017-07-24 12:33 PM
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hijack got it right......if you want to see the athletes go watch a fast sprint race......I'm talking 750M swim/20K bike/5K run...when the top 10-20 racers are hitting 53-58 minutes. (and the 55-58 minute guys aren't even in the race)  They're animals.



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2017-07-24 12:41 PM
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Originally posted by hessma I see this comment quite a bit and I hear it quite a bit when talking with others. Why do we need to put a qualifier in that "I'm only doing the sprint"? I have done the same race (NJ State Triathlon) for the past 6 years. The first 2 years were the sprint and then 3 years of Oly. This year due to work and life events, I just did not have time to properly train for the Oly and chose to do the sprint. Leading up to it, I felt like I really wasn't doing something, like I wasn't pushing hard enough because I was "only doing the sprint distance" You know what? It was great and I loved it! I was as satisfied after as I would have been after the Oly and felt a lot better physically! I could see myself continuing with this distance forever and doing an Oly here or there. No one who actually gets off their butts, trains and starts a Tri should ever feel the need to explain why they "only" did the sprint distance.

 

My last race was a 5K for the 4th of July.  I had completed an Olympic triathlon 3 weeks before that and had not done much training since that time.  I did a warm up run with a few other guys I had seen at other races and they all wanted to know if I was going to school them again.  I told then I had only been running 2-3 times a week for the last couple of weeks with my long run at 4 miles so I know I was not in my peak running condition (far from it).  It was also the first hot race of the summer and not of us were acclimatized to the heat so that was going to make the race more difficult.  I was feeling the least prepared that I have been fore a 5K race in about 4-5 years but when I compared the challenge of running a 5K under trained and in the heat to doing an Olympic Triathlon in the best condition possible and in peak fitness I know that the 5K would still be easier so I told the guys on my warm up run it is just a 5K.  That was my way of telling myself that despite not being in the best shape or conditions that this ace was not going to break me. It didn't.  I was almost a minute slower than the 5K race I have done in February and 30 seconds slower that the first race in the heat last year.  So...it was not my best race time but because I knew that I had done much harder things I was able to keep myself together and still run a respectable race.  

So why the qualifier???  Because some days you are in your peak fitness and and are race for a PR in a Sprint and other days your sprint is not your A race but you do it anyways because you know you can.  If you are doing it just because you know you can then it is a big difference that doing because you are going to go harder and faster than you ever have before.

Note:  Most Road races that I do have a 5K and a 10K option.  I always choose the 5K option.  I was the overall winner of a 5K race two years ago and at the finish line the guy that got 2nd place commented that when he say me increasing the gap he didn't stick with me because he figured I would be doing the 10K.  Some people feel that if they can do the 10K they should and the 5K is just for people that aren't up to the 10K yet.  I have been doing 5K's for decades and will continue to do them until I can't win them any more.  :-)

I was a mile specialist in Track and Field.  That was my race and I knew it and didn't want to run anything else.  I had coaches that wanted me to do the 800m and the 3200m.  They made me do them in lots of meets but I always felt it was pointless.  I could put all my eggs in one basket and either come up big or go home empty handed or I could spread myself thin over multiple events and never come up big in anything.

So choose your race and own it.  Don't let others choose your race (i.e. tell you are too fast to be running the 5K and should have been in the 10k, or that if you are a good mile running that you need to develop yourself into a 800M and 3200M runner too, etc.



2017-07-24 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: "It's Just a Sprint"
On a similar note to this thread there have been several times when I am talking to friends/co-workers and they ask me the distances as part of sprint or Oly and simply respond....."that doesn't sound too bad."......Oh, really?!
2017-07-24 12:57 PM
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Originally posted by FurnaceM3

On a similar note to this thread there have been several times when I am talking to friends/co-workers and they ask me the distances as part of sprint or Oly and simply respond....."that doesn't sound too bad."......Oh, really?!


Well, if you are only looking at completing the distance, it doesn't sound to bad to a lot of people. Many people can finish a sprint without training and an oly with only some sort of basic training.
That's the way your friends/co-workers who say that look at it, from the point of view of a finisher.
2017-07-24 1:05 PM
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15 minutes ago I signed up for a sprint! So I'm digging this thread!
2017-07-24 1:22 PM
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The only people who say that are the ones who don't have enough experience yet to know that for anyone who has trained well a sprint is much more of a suffer fest than a HIM or IM.  A HIM is a walk in the park compared to the pain of racing a sprint.

 

2017-07-24 1:23 PM
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I think the "just a sprint" mentality comes from the public perception of triathlon, which began with the 1982 broadcast of the Ironman.  People who don't do triathlons immediately think of the all-day, marathon slogs that were (and still are...) on that show.

Different distances, different hurt.  I did a super sprint a couple of years ago (300y/8mile/5K) that about killed me - I was totally redlined the whole time.  Contrast against my last Oly @ 2:30ish, that's more death by a thousand cuts and I didn't redline until the last maybe 400 M of the run.



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Haven't done a sprint in a few years and I'm missing it. Probably going to go back to them next year. Reality is those distances are much more inline with the time I have to train.

And directly to your point of "just a sprint" it was almost 100 degrees out there on Saturday so guessing it was more than challenging enough!

To a previous point the term just a sprint is often used because most folks just remember what they see on TV and I never wanted to falsely give the impression I was doing a 140.6.

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2017-07-24 2:00 PM
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Why do you have to be redlining it before it's great and hard? There are plenty of us who are newbies, who've never been runners, bikers or swimmers, who've turned their lives around and lost lots of weight. For some of us, sub 2 hours is great. Or even just finishing.

I'm always amazed by the fast athletes. The ones who get out of the swim before my wave even starts. And I'm definitely in awe of how fast they can finish the race - it will never be me.

But, what truly inspires me are the people who don't look like super athletes. The last swimmer out of the water, the last biker in, and the last runner. The people who really are athletes, even if society tells us that they don't look like one. Those are the people who inspired me to try - those are the people I get all teary-eyed about and I think they're really, truly amazing people. That's why I fell in love with this sport so fast: there's room for everyone. What really matters is just doing it.

And in my firm (100 people) I can think of about two other people who might be able to do all three legs of a tri right now. That's it.

Also, when I've gotten the "that's not so bad" comment about the distance, my typical response is: yeah, you should come and do one with me! Said with a smile and enthusiasm. I haven't gotten any takers thus far
2017-07-24 2:40 PM
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Originally posted by Trine Why do you have to be redlining it before it's great and hard? There are plenty of us who are newbies, who've never been runners, bikers or swimmers, who've turned their lives around and lost lots of weight. For some of us, sub 2 hours is great. Or even just finishing. I'm always amazed by the fast athletes. The ones who get out of the swim before my wave even starts. And I'm definitely in awe of how fast they can finish the race - it will never be me. But, what truly inspires me are the people who don't look like super athletes. The last swimmer out of the water, the last biker in, and the last runner. The people who really are athletes, even if society tells us that they don't look like one. Those are the people who inspired me to try - those are the people I get all teary-eyed about and I think they're really, truly amazing people. That's why I fell in love with this sport so fast: there's room for everyone. What really matters is just doing it. And in my firm (100 people) I can think of about two other people who might be able to do all three legs of a tri right now. That's it. Also, when I've gotten the "that's not so bad" comment about the distance, my typical response is: yeah, you should come and do one with me! Said with a smile and enthusiasm. I haven't gotten any takers thus far

For the sake of your question.....and I'll tell you up front that your points are almost all good ones and well taken.  I'm not from the "everybody gets a trophy mindset".....so I ask you, is the guy or gal who shows up for a 5k and walks the distance an "athlete"?  They are finishers for sure, and I give them all the props that any other person who gets off their arse and into the game gets.....but I wouldn't call them an athlete.  I kind of have that same idea about triathlon......no matter what the distance is.  Some of the folks doing triathlon are athletes, and some aren't. 

I've played some softball in my advancing age, but I'm not a ballplayer.  I can get down a mountain, but I'm not a skier (although I've probably also left a few people teary eyed.....and doubled over in laughter).

I'm in no way being derogatory toward anyone who does a triathlon of any distance, but you asked the question so there is my answer.

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For the sake of your question.....and I'll tell you up front that your points are almost all good ones and well taken.  I'm not from the "everybody gets a trophy mindset".....so I ask you, is the guy or gal who shows up for a 5k and walks the distance an "athlete"?  They are finishers for sure, and I give them all the props that any other person who gets off their arse and into the game gets.....but I wouldn't call them an athlete.  I kind of have that same idea about triathlon......no matter what the distance is.  Some of the folks doing triathlon are athletes, and some aren't. 

I've played some softball in my advancing age, but I'm not a ballplayer.  I can get down a mountain, but I'm not a skier (although I've probably also left a few people teary eyed.....and doubled over in laughter).

I'm in no way being derogatory toward anyone who does a triathlon of any distance, but you asked the question so there is my answer.




Well, it isn't a 5K we're talking about here - but I certainly get your point. :) And I agree that not everybody should get a trophy.

But, for the people I think about, it's the journey they've made. The obstacles they've overcome. To say that it isn't great unless they get in under one hour seems to belittle their efforts and huge accomplishments. I'm a bleeding-heart liberal. A rooter for the underdog. And I love seeing people conquer their fears and succeed when they thought they never could.


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