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So sorry, Ben! These damn fur kids of ours!

So an update on Dug. Last Wednesday we were devastated when told Dug had osteosarcoma. Thanksgiving was horrible, but we managed to smoke a turkey, make pies, and all the others stuff while we watched our dog get better. Yes, he improved. Friday he was only limping a bit. Our vet called to check on him Friday evening and couldn't believe that Dug was almost normal. She said that doesn't happen with osteosarcoma but since we caught it early, the improvement could be because it was in the early stages.

Saturday, Sunday, and Monday Dug was his normal, goofy self - jumping, running, prancing, and pawing without a limp at all.

Tuesday we took him to the oncologist. He saw the nurse first and the nurse commented that he wasn't even limping. I showed her the video from last week when he wouldn't put any weight on it. She took him to the vet for a physical examine away from us. She came back about 15 minutes later and asked to see the video. She said he was presenting no symptoms of osteosarcoma - no limp, she couldn't feel a tumor which she should be able to, he showed no pain when she pressed on his leg, he was goofy, sill, and a normal Golden Retriever named for the character in the movie Up!. But, there is a shadow on his x-rays in a common spot, he's long-legged Golden, and he's almost 7. She said that she has never been so unsure about a case in all of her years as a vet. We decided at this point to do a biopsy and wait to see what that says. If that comes back negative, we go back in a month and they re-do the x-rays to see if the spots change. This is such a fast-growing cancer that there would be significant changes in a month. If there is still no change then we could do another biopsy or wait a month again. The best news she gave us is that, while there is something in that x-ray that shouldn't be there, she has never seen a dog with osteosarcoma be in such pain like Dug was and then go back to a normal, silly, bouncing dog.

So, the bottom line - we still don't have any answers.

Thanks for all of your thoughts and good wishes. They really helped.

Ben, you will and your pup are in my thoughts.

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2017-11-29 9:00 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Oh I forgot to tell you all about this really cool thing that happened when I was out running on Tuesday. I live in the outer suburbs of the city and there is a fair bit of bush land around. So I was running along the sealed road and in the bush land on the side of the road there was a kangaroo bounding along with me. He was a young roo and much faster than me but he would stop every now and then and wait for me to catch up with him and then head off with me again. It was really cool.

Stacey, that sounds amazing!

2017-11-29 9:03 PM
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Originally posted by fortissimo So sorry, Ben! These damn fur kids of ours! So an update on Dug. Last Wednesday we were devastated when told Dug had osteosarcoma. Thanksgiving was horrible, but we managed to smoke a turkey, make pies, and all the others stuff while we watched our dog get better. Yes, he improved. Friday he was only limping a bit. Our vet called to check on him Friday evening and couldn't believe that Dug was almost normal. She said that doesn't happen with osteosarcoma but since we caught it early, the improvement could be because it was in the early stages. Saturday, Sunday, and Monday Dug was his normal, goofy self - jumping, running, prancing, and pawing without a limp at all. Tuesday we took him to the oncologist. He saw the nurse first and the nurse commented that he wasn't even limping. I showed her the video from last week when he wouldn't put any weight on it. She took him to the vet for a physical examine away from us. She came back about 15 minutes later and asked to see the video. She said he was presenting no symptoms of osteosarcoma - no limp, she couldn't feel a tumor which she should be able to, he showed no pain when she pressed on his leg, he was goofy, sill, and a normal Golden Retriever named for the character in the movie Up!. But, there is a shadow on his x-rays in a common spot, he's long-legged Golden, and he's almost 7. She said that she has never been so unsure about a case in all of her years as a vet. We decided at this point to do a biopsy and wait to see what that says. If that comes back negative, we go back in a month and they re-do the x-rays to see if the spots change. This is such a fast-growing cancer that there would be significant changes in a month. If there is still no change then we could do another biopsy or wait a month again. The best news she gave us is that, while there is something in that x-ray that shouldn't be there, she has never seen a dog with osteosarcoma be in such pain like Dug was and then go back to a normal, silly, bouncing dog. So, the bottom line - we still don't have any answers. Thanks for all of your thoughts and good wishes. They really helped. Ben, you will and your pup are in my thoughts.

Well, that is great to hear he is doing so much better, but how frustrating!  I sure hope the--squirrel! --biopsies provide answers. 

 

2017-11-29 9:20 PM
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Thanks for all the suggestions (& well wishes)! We'll probably have to use all of them and keep coming up with more. Had already started to give non-medicated extra treats too. Will see how it goes.

2017-11-30 7:19 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Oh I forgot to tell you all about this really cool thing that happened when I was out running on Tuesday. I live in the outer suburbs of the city and there is a fair bit of bush land around. So I was running along the sealed road and in the bush land on the side of the road there was a kangaroo bounding along with me. He was a young roo and much faster than me but he would stop every now and then and wait for me to catch up with him and then head off with me again. It was really cool.

That is wonderful!! I would LOVE to see a roo, let alone run with one. I guess your new name is RooRunner

2017-11-30 7:20 AM
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Originally posted by ceilidh

Originally posted by StaceyK Oh I forgot to tell you all about this really cool thing that happened when I was out running on Tuesday. I live in the outer suburbs of the city and there is a fair bit of bush land around. So I was running along the sealed road and in the bush land on the side of the road there was a kangaroo bounding along with me. He was a young roo and much faster than me but he would stop every now and then and wait for me to catch up with him and then head off with me again. It was really cool.

That is wonderful!! I would LOVE to see a roo, let alone run with one. I guess your new name is RooRunner

Roorunner-haha!!

Staceye that is so cool!



2017-11-30 7:21 AM
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Originally posted by fortissimo So sorry, Ben! These damn fur kids of ours! So an update on Dug. Last Wednesday we were devastated when told Dug had osteosarcoma. Thanksgiving was horrible, but we managed to smoke a turkey, make pies, and all the others stuff while we watched our dog get better. Yes, he improved. Friday he was only limping a bit. Our vet called to check on him Friday evening and couldn't believe that Dug was almost normal. She said that doesn't happen with osteosarcoma but since we caught it early, the improvement could be because it was in the early stages. Saturday, Sunday, and Monday Dug was his normal, goofy self - jumping, running, prancing, and pawing without a limp at all. Tuesday we took him to the oncologist. He saw the nurse first and the nurse commented that he wasn't even limping. I showed her the video from last week when he wouldn't put any weight on it. She took him to the vet for a physical examine away from us. She came back about 15 minutes later and asked to see the video. She said he was presenting no symptoms of osteosarcoma - no limp, she couldn't feel a tumor which she should be able to, he showed no pain when she pressed on his leg, he was goofy, sill, and a normal Golden Retriever named for the character in the movie Up!. But, there is a shadow on his x-rays in a common spot, he's long-legged Golden, and he's almost 7. She said that she has never been so unsure about a case in all of her years as a vet. We decided at this point to do a biopsy and wait to see what that says. If that comes back negative, we go back in a month and they re-do the x-rays to see if the spots change. This is such a fast-growing cancer that there would be significant changes in a month. If there is still no change then we could do another biopsy or wait a month again. The best news she gave us is that, while there is something in that x-ray that shouldn't be there, she has never seen a dog with osteosarcoma be in such pain like Dug was and then go back to a normal, silly, bouncing dog. So, the bottom line - we still don't have any answers. Thanks for all of your thoughts and good wishes. They really helped. Ben, you will and your pup are in my thoughts.

wow, that is so good! Hopefully, it’s a misdiagnosis, but even if it isn’t , at least he’s having some pain free extra time!

2017-11-30 7:22 AM
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Originally posted by fortissimo So sorry, Ben! These damn fur kids of ours! So an update on Dug. Last Wednesday we were devastated when told Dug had osteosarcoma. Thanksgiving was horrible, but we managed to smoke a turkey, make pies, and all the others stuff while we watched our dog get better. Yes, he improved. Friday he was only limping a bit. Our vet called to check on him Friday evening and couldn't believe that Dug was almost normal. She said that doesn't happen with osteosarcoma but since we caught it early, the improvement could be because it was in the early stages. Saturday, Sunday, and Monday Dug was his normal, goofy self - jumping, running, prancing, and pawing without a limp at all. Tuesday we took him to the oncologist. He saw the nurse first and the nurse commented that he wasn't even limping. I showed her the video from last week when he wouldn't put any weight on it. She took him to the vet for a physical examine away from us. She came back about 15 minutes later and asked to see the video. She said he was presenting no symptoms of osteosarcoma - no limp, she couldn't feel a tumor which she should be able to, he showed no pain when she pressed on his leg, he was goofy, sill, and a normal Golden Retriever named for the character in the movie Up!. But, there is a shadow on his x-rays in a common spot, he's long-legged Golden, and he's almost 7. She said that she has never been so unsure about a case in all of her years as a vet. We decided at this point to do a biopsy and wait to see what that says. If that comes back negative, we go back in a month and they re-do the x-rays to see if the spots change. This is such a fast-growing cancer that there would be significant changes in a month. If there is still no change then we could do another biopsy or wait a month again. The best news she gave us is that, while there is something in that x-ray that shouldn't be there, she has never seen a dog with osteosarcoma be in such pain like Dug was and then go back to a normal, silly, bouncing dog. So, the bottom line - we still don't have any answers. Thanks for all of your thoughts and good wishes. They really helped. Ben, you will and your pup are in my thoughts.
I hope that the improvement keeps coming and that somehow the diagnosis is NOT osteosarcoma.

2017-11-30 7:23 AM
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Thanks for all the suggestions (& well wishes)! We'll probably have to use all of them and keep coming up with more. Had already started to give non-medicated extra treats too. Will see how it goes.

Thinking of you. Raven is too!





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2017-11-30 8:14 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Oh I forgot to tell you all about this really cool thing that happened when I was out running on Tuesday. I live in the outer suburbs of the city and there is a fair bit of bush land around. So I was running along the sealed road and in the bush land on the side of the road there was a kangaroo bounding along with me. He was a young roo and much faster than me but he would stop every now and then and wait for me to catch up with him and then head off with me again. It was really cool.

How cool!

2017-11-30 8:17 AM
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Originally posted by fortissimo So sorry, Ben! These damn fur kids of ours! So an update on Dug. Last Wednesday we were devastated when told Dug had osteosarcoma. Thanksgiving was horrible, but we managed to smoke a turkey, make pies, and all the others stuff while we watched our dog get better. Yes, he improved. Friday he was only limping a bit. Our vet called to check on him Friday evening and couldn't believe that Dug was almost normal. She said that doesn't happen with osteosarcoma but since we caught it early, the improvement could be because it was in the early stages. Saturday, Sunday, and Monday Dug was his normal, goofy self - jumping, running, prancing, and pawing without a limp at all. Tuesday we took him to the oncologist. He saw the nurse first and the nurse commented that he wasn't even limping. I showed her the video from last week when he wouldn't put any weight on it. She took him to the vet for a physical examine away from us. She came back about 15 minutes later and asked to see the video. She said he was presenting no symptoms of osteosarcoma - no limp, she couldn't feel a tumor which she should be able to, he showed no pain when she pressed on his leg, he was goofy, sill, and a normal Golden Retriever named for the character in the movie Up!. But, there is a shadow on his x-rays in a common spot, he's long-legged Golden, and he's almost 7. She said that she has never been so unsure about a case in all of her years as a vet. We decided at this point to do a biopsy and wait to see what that says. If that comes back negative, we go back in a month and they re-do the x-rays to see if the spots change. This is such a fast-growing cancer that there would be significant changes in a month. If there is still no change then we could do another biopsy or wait a month again. The best news she gave us is that, while there is something in that x-ray that shouldn't be there, she has never seen a dog with osteosarcoma be in such pain like Dug was and then go back to a normal, silly, bouncing dog. So, the bottom line - we still don't have any answers. Thanks for all of your thoughts and good wishes. They really helped. Ben, you will and your pup are in my thoughts.

I am so glad that Dug is acting like his normal self. Good vibes for a clean biopsy.  I was really worried about it when Amy told me of her experience (I hope that you contacted her, she's a good resource) and I have wanted to give both you and Dug a big hug.



2017-11-30 10:01 AM
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Sorry to have been AWOL a bit this week, I've been dealing with a chest/nose illness since Thanksgiving day, missing three days of work this week.  I'm still not convinced I'm healing but rather simply figured out how to stay on top of the symptoms.

I'm saddened to read of more manatee pet illnesses - Ben and Robin, I will be wishing the very best for your dear furballs over the next few months and for you as well, dealing with their health.

2017-12-01 12:33 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

December 2-3
Blanda -  Hell of the Marianas
Jen - Tannenbaun 10k on Sunday

Is anyone else racing?

DL
Janyne - ITBS
Anne - under the weather
Melanie - under the weather

X

2017-12-01 12:44 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

December 2-3
Blanda -  Hell of the Marianas
Jen - Tannenbaun 10k on Sunday

Is anyone else racing?

DL
Janyne - ITBS
Anne - under the weather
Melanie - under the weather

X

Go Blanda and Jen!

Feel better Anne and Melanie. Get that ITBS healed Janyne!

2017-12-01 3:48 PM
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Racing Manatees!!!

December 2-3
Blanda -  Hell of the Marianas
Jen - Tannenbaun 10k on Sunday

Is anyone else racing?

DL
Janyne - ITBS
Anne - under the weather
Melanie - under the weather

X

Go Blanda and Jen!

Feel better Anne and Melanie. Get that ITBS healed Janyne!




Feel better Janyne, Anne, and Mel!

Go racers, have fun!

I have 50K tomorrow, my first one, hoping to have fun and no injuries.
I wish everyone a wonderful weekend!
2017-12-03 4:27 PM
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Blanca and Jen I hope your races went well.

Thought I would give you a Coco update. She is doing really well and is up and mobile under her own steam again. However in the process of the FCE she has totally ruptured her ACL.

because of her size a grafted or synthetic ligament is not a viable option and so the specialist has recommended a particular nasty piece of surgery which involves the removal of a wedge of bone in order to "level" the top of the tibia. At this point in time we will not be going down this road due to the extensive recovery time and the long term side effects. We are going to try the more conservative route of bracing and see if that gives her sufficient support to enable the scar tissue to form and stabilise her knee joint.


2017-12-04 7:30 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Blanca and Jen I hope your races went well. Thought I would give you a Coco update. She is doing really well and is up and mobile under her own steam again. However in the process of the FCE she has totally ruptured her ACL. because of her size a grafted or synthetic ligament is not a viable option and so the specialist has recommended a particular nasty piece of surgery which involves the removal of a wedge of bone in order to "level" the top of the tibia. At this point in time we will not be going down this road due to the extensive recovery time and the long term side effects. We are going to try the more conservative route of bracing and see if that gives her sufficient support to enable the scar tissue to form and stabilise her knee joint.

Hope the bracing goes well. The surgery option sounds like an osteotomy my Dad had 20+ years ago. It's hard to say how effective it was because he puts these things off for so long that other things helping to compensate develop significant issues of their own. Hip replacement and some arthroscopic surgery on the other knee a few years later. Plus he's really not very good about doing therapy (terrible, really). Strange considering the caliber athlete he was.

If I'm remembering this one correctly, the recovery was substantial and they're right to hesitate unless it really is the only option. We ended up rebuilding a bed out in the living room for him to basically live on for several weeks at least (may have been longer). He basically lived in that spot for awhile. A therapist had to come visit in order to get that done.

2017-12-04 4:23 PM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Blanca and Jen I hope your races went well. Thought I would give you a Coco update. She is doing really well and is up and mobile under her own steam again. However in the process of the FCE she has totally ruptured her ACL. because of her size a grafted or synthetic ligament is not a viable option and so the specialist has recommended a particular nasty piece of surgery which involves the removal of a wedge of bone in order to "level" the top of the tibia. At this point in time we will not be going down this road due to the extensive recovery time and the long term side effects. We are going to try the more conservative route of bracing and see if that gives her sufficient support to enable the scar tissue to form and stabilise her knee joint.

Hope the bracing goes well. The surgery option sounds like an osteotomy my Dad had 20+ years ago. It's hard to say how effective it was because he puts these things off for so long that other things helping to compensate develop significant issues of their own. Hip replacement and some arthroscopic surgery on the other knee a few years later. Plus he's really not very good about doing therapy (terrible, really). Strange considering the caliber athlete he was.

If I'm remembering this one correctly, the recovery was substantial and they're right to hesitate unless it really is the only option. We ended up rebuilding a bed out in the living room for him to basically live on for several weeks at least (may have been longer). He basically lived in that spot for awhile. A therapist had to come visit in order to get that done.


they said 8-12 weeks of complete confinement and then up to 26 weeks of rehab and then a significantly increased risk of bone cancer developing at the site where the bone has been cut and plated.

8-12 weeks of confinement would kill Coco, 8-12 days of it was bad enough for her with the FCE and Mastiffs already have an issue with bone cancer so we don't need to increase that risk. So for now all of that translates into no surgery
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Originally posted by StaceyK Blanca and Jen I hope your races went well. Thought I would give you a Coco update. She is doing really well and is up and mobile under her own steam again. However in the process of the FCE she has totally ruptured her ACL. because of her size a grafted or synthetic ligament is not a viable option and so the specialist has recommended a particular nasty piece of surgery which involves the removal of a wedge of bone in order to "level" the top of the tibia. At this point in time we will not be going down this road due to the extensive recovery time and the long term side effects. We are going to try the more conservative route of bracing and see if that gives her sufficient support to enable the scar tissue to form and stabilise her knee joint.

Hope the bracing goes well. The surgery option sounds like an osteotomy my Dad had 20+ years ago. It's hard to say how effective it was because he puts these things off for so long that other things helping to compensate develop significant issues of their own. Hip replacement and some arthroscopic surgery on the other knee a few years later. Plus he's really not very good about doing therapy (terrible, really). Strange considering the caliber athlete he was.

If I'm remembering this one correctly, the recovery was substantial and they're right to hesitate unless it really is the only option. We ended up rebuilding a bed out in the living room for him to basically live on for several weeks at least (may have been longer). He basically lived in that spot for awhile. A therapist had to come visit in order to get that done.

they said 8-12 weeks of complete confinement and then up to 26 weeks of rehab and then a significantly increased risk of bone cancer developing at the site where the bone has been cut and plated. 8-12 weeks of confinement would kill Coco, 8-12 days of it was bad enough for her with the FCE and Mastiffs already have an issue with bone cancer so we don't need to increase that risk. So for now all of that translates into no surgery

ugh, I don’t know how any dog can be confined that long! Poor Coco!  C’mon brace!!

2017-12-05 8:59 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK
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Originally posted by StaceyK Blanca and Jen I hope your races went well. Thought I would give you a Coco update. She is doing really well and is up and mobile under her own steam again. However in the process of the FCE she has totally ruptured her ACL. because of her size a grafted or synthetic ligament is not a viable option and so the specialist has recommended a particular nasty piece of surgery which involves the removal of a wedge of bone in order to "level" the top of the tibia. At this point in time we will not be going down this road due to the extensive recovery time and the long term side effects. We are going to try the more conservative route of bracing and see if that gives her sufficient support to enable the scar tissue to form and stabilise her knee joint.

Hope the bracing goes well. The surgery option sounds like an osteotomy my Dad had 20+ years ago. It's hard to say how effective it was because he puts these things off for so long that other things helping to compensate develop significant issues of their own. Hip replacement and some arthroscopic surgery on the other knee a few years later. Plus he's really not very good about doing therapy (terrible, really). Strange considering the caliber athlete he was.

If I'm remembering this one correctly, the recovery was substantial and they're right to hesitate unless it really is the only option. We ended up rebuilding a bed out in the living room for him to basically live on for several weeks at least (may have been longer). He basically lived in that spot for awhile. A therapist had to come visit in order to get that done.

they said 8-12 weeks of complete confinement and then up to 26 weeks of rehab and then a significantly increased risk of bone cancer developing at the site where the bone has been cut and plated. 8-12 weeks of confinement would kill Coco, 8-12 days of it was bad enough for her with the FCE and Mastiffs already have an issue with bone cancer so we don't need to increase that risk. So for now all of that translates into no surgery

ugh, I don’t know how any dog can be confined that long! Poor Coco!  C’mon brace!!

Oh I hope the brace does its magic.

2017-12-05 9:01 AM
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Originally posted by StaceyK Blanca and Jen I hope your races went well. Thought I would give you a Coco update. She is doing really well and is up and mobile under her own steam again. However in the process of the FCE she has totally ruptured her ACL. because of her size a grafted or synthetic ligament is not a viable option and so the specialist has recommended a particular nasty piece of surgery which involves the removal of a wedge of bone in order to "level" the top of the tibia. At this point in time we will not be going down this road due to the extensive recovery time and the long term side effects. We are going to try the more conservative route of bracing and see if that gives her sufficient support to enable the scar tissue to form and stabilise her knee joint.

Time had scar tissue sure did wonders for Zoe's tailbone!



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I wasn't going to post this, but I'm looking to see if anyone has any experience with dogs and osteosarcoma.

Dug was fine on Saturday - he went to work at DIA as a pet therapy dog for nervous travelers. Sunday he and Jack went for a walk and played catch with the tennis ball (Jack the receiver would catch and run away, Dug the retriever would bring the ball back). Monday he started limping a bit so we took him to the vet because we're over protective that way. They diagnosed him with arthritis, gave him some anti-inflammatories and sent him home. By the end of the day he wasn't even putting weight on it. Tuesday it was really swollen so we took him in for x-rays. Nothing was broken but there were two small spots on his front left wrist. She took a blood sample and sent the x-rays to a radiologist.

Today we found out our almost 7 year old golden has Osteosarcoma. Treatment would include amputation of the leg at the shoulder, chemo, and radiation. Even with the chemo and radiation, the life expectancy of dogs with this cancer is only 4-12 months. We do meet with an oncologist on Tuesday for a consult. Needless to say we are heartbroken.

So, any experiences out there with this? Any questions you would ask the oncologist?

Thanks in advance


I saw your update - that it may not be osteo - I hope it's not.

We lost our 11 year old greyhound to Osteo in 2013. From limp to the end was roughly 10 weeks. It's awful. Our girl also had a heart murmur so we made the decision not to amputate and just make her as comfortable as possible. She got a cocktail of tramadol twice a day and gabapentin. For the most part she was her same goofy self and she continued to run up and down the stairs on 3 legs. Until she just couldn't anymore.

Dogs lack that "poor me" mentality so they don't tend to sit around and mope which helps us cope.

Sounds like you're doing everything right. I would be cautious going forward. You don't want the dog to shatter a limb because osteo weakened it (it can happen without warning). Sorry for the downer - but that's what it is. And it sucks.
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We got the dreaded call from the vet yesterday. Dug does have osteosarcoma. She believes they caught it really early as it was only in the inner layer of the bone. We've decided to have his leg amputated on Thursday. In a few weeks we will do a round of chemo and see how he reacts. If he does well then we'll go from there. We believe in quality over quantity so hopefully we'll have the projected 12 months with our goofball. He is limping more but he is still his same old self.

My husband did meet with the surgeon today and he asked if doing chemo was the right choice. He said with a dog like Dug it was absolutely the right choice. That made us stop the second guessing on the decision.

There have been a lot of tears here. The kids asked me why my husband looked so upset in the class before they had me so I told them. That led to about 45 8th graders crying which made me cry. Dogs and 8th graders. Darn things make you cry.





2017-12-05 11:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mayhem Part Deux - 2017 Edition
Originally posted by fortissimo

We got the dreaded call from the vet yesterday. Dug does have osteosarcoma. She believes they caught it really early as it was only in the inner layer of the bone. We've decided to have his leg amputated on Thursday. In a few weeks we will do a round of chemo and see how he reacts. If he does well then we'll go from there. We believe in quality over quantity so hopefully we'll have the projected 12 months with our goofball. He is limping more but he is still his same old self.

My husband did meet with the surgeon today and he asked if doing chemo was the right choice. He said with a dog like Dug it was absolutely the right choice. That made us stop the second guessing on the decision.

There have been a lot of tears here. The kids asked me why my husband looked so upset in the class before they had me so I told them. That led to about 45 8th graders crying which made me cry. Dogs and 8th graders. Darn things make you cry.


I'm so sorry Robin. I hope that the treatment plan that you and your vets has put together goes fantastically well and that you get heaps of quality time with Dug.

If its any consolation it was 6th graders that made me cry last night. I was at a school graduation and they did a graduation in absentia for one of their classmates that passed away in a car accident last year. So there was a group of very brave 6th graders up the front trying desperately not to cry while the parents of the boy came to the stage and thanked the entire school community and especially their son's classmates for helping them to cope with their loss. It was wonderful and heartbreaking at the same time, but one of the joys of being a part of a small community school where they share each others triumphs and sorrows.
2017-12-06 3:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Manatee Mayhem Part Deux - 2017 Edition

Originally posted by fortissimo We got the dreaded call from the vet yesterday. Dug does have osteosarcoma. She believes they caught it really early as it was only in the inner layer of the bone. We've decided to have his leg amputated on Thursday. In a few weeks we will do a round of chemo and see how he reacts. If he does well then we'll go from there. We believe in quality over quantity so hopefully we'll have the projected 12 months with our goofball. He is limping more but he is still his same old self. My husband did meet with the surgeon today and he asked if doing chemo was the right choice. He said with a dog like Dug it was absolutely the right choice. That made us stop the second guessing on the decision. There have been a lot of tears here. The kids asked me why my husband looked so upset in the class before they had me so I told them. That led to about 45 8th graders crying which made me cry. Dogs and 8th graders. Darn things make you cry.

I'm sorry for the diagnosis, but glad it was caught early and you have a course of action. Hopefully, you will get even more than the projected 12 months. Damn dogs are always making us cry !

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