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2018-01-11 1:20 PM

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Conservatives have known this and seen the manipulation for years, but it's kind of funny to see them get exposed for it.

The Democrats cannot win on their message or based on their policies.  They have to manipulate and brainwash the masses through schools and social media.  They also have to stamp out as much conservative free speech they can get away with.

https://www.projectveritas.com/2018/01/11/undercover-video-twitter-engineers-to-ban-a-way-of-talking-through-shadow-banning-algorithms-to-censor-opposing-political-opinions/

 



2018-01-11 1:41 PM
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Seriously Tony, Project Veritas?
2018-01-11 1:47 PM
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Oh....sorry, I saw the thread title and thought we were doing word association.

2018-01-11 2:02 PM
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Originally posted by Oysterboy Seriously Tony, Project Veritas?

I could have wrote your response for you.  Ignore the actual content of the story and attack the source.

So, because it's done by an organization you don't like the factual information should be ignored?

2018-01-11 3:36 PM
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2018-01-11 4:42 PM
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Originally posted by Oysterboy Yep, don't know if a single thing they say can be believed. I would need a corroborating source. PV has a well-deserved reputation, might as well site InfoWars https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/us/washington-post-roy-moore-proj... https://www.snopes.com/tag/project-veritas/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454123/project-veritass-washi... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/10/project_veritas_t... ... shall I go on? I found the title of this one rather interesting: https://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/352816/right-wing-ratfuckers-tried-...

So you cite a bunch of left wing sources to justify ignoring the source and convincing yourself that the content isn't true?  Seriously, talk about living in a bubble.

I could post a bunch of links for every one of those sources where they've lied and been factually incorrect as well but I still read them to get opposing points of view.  Watch the video and judge for yourself.  These are twitter employees and former employees talking in detail about how they intentionally block and shadow ban conservatives.  Even if 100% of everything PV has put out was untrue it doesn't change what these people are saying.
The "i'll wait for third party verification" is silly as well because you know as well as I do that there will be zero investigation by any "main stream" media outlets because they're guilty of the exact same thing.  The only ones that will investigate are the FoxNews's and other right leaning sources so you'll sit back and say that it's not true because only right wing outlets are reporting. 



2018-01-11 7:37 PM
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Originally posted by Oysterboy Yep, don't know if a single thing they say can be believed. I would need a corroborating source. PV has a well-deserved reputation, might as well site InfoWars https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/us/washington-post-roy-moore-proj... https://www.snopes.com/tag/project-veritas/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454123/project-veritass-washi... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/10/project_veritas_t... ... shall I go on? I found the title of this one rather interesting: https://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/352816/right-wing-ratfuckers-tried-...

So you cite a bunch of left wing sources to justify ignoring the source and convincing yourself that the content isn't true?  Seriously, talk about living in a bubble.

I could post a bunch of links for every one of those sources where they've lied and been factually incorrect as well but I still read them to get opposing points of view.  Watch the video and judge for yourself.  These are twitter employees and former employees talking in detail about how they intentionally block and shadow ban conservatives.  Even if 100% of everything PV has put out was untrue it doesn't change what these people are saying.
The "i'll wait for third party verification" is silly as well because you know as well as I do that there will be zero investigation by any "main stream" media outlets because they're guilty of the exact same thing.  The only ones that will investigate are the FoxNews's and other right leaning sources so you'll sit back and say that it's not true because only right wing outlets are reporting. 



ummm, one of those citations was the National Review. Yep, lefty rag there.

Anyways, as far as I'm concerned, I don't put much stock in social media so Twitter can do whatever they want, Facebook for that matter as well.

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2018-01-11 8:16 PM
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Originally posted by tuwood

Originally posted by Oysterboy Yep, don't know if a single thing they say can be believed. I would need a corroborating source. PV has a well-deserved reputation, might as well site InfoWars https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/a-woman-approached-the... https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/us/washington-post-roy-moore-proj... https://www.snopes.com/tag/project-veritas/https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/29/project-veritas-how-fake-news-prize-went-to-rightwing-group-beloved-by-trump http://www.nationalreview.com/article/454123/project-veritass-washi... https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/10/10/project_veritas_t... ... shall I go on? I found the title of this one rather interesting: https://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/352816/right-wing-ratfuckers-tried-...

So you cite a bunch of left wing sources to justify ignoring the source and convincing yourself that the content isn't true?  Seriously, talk about living in a bubble.

I could post a bunch of links for every one of those sources where they've lied and been factually incorrect as well but I still read them to get opposing points of view.  Watch the video and judge for yourself.  These are twitter employees and former employees talking in detail about how they intentionally block and shadow ban conservatives.  Even if 100% of everything PV has put out was untrue it doesn't change what these people are saying.
The "i'll wait for third party verification" is silly as well because you know as well as I do that there will be zero investigation by any "main stream" media outlets because they're guilty of the exact same thing.  The only ones that will investigate are the FoxNews's and other right leaning sources so you'll sit back and say that it's not true because only right wing outlets are reporting. 

ummm, one of those citations was the National Review. Yep, lefty rag there. Anyways, as far as I'm concerned, I don't put much stock in social media so Twitter can do whatever they want, Facebook for that matter as well.

I get that argument as well, but it's where a big chunk of the population (sadly) gets their news.  Twitter, google, reddit, facebook, etc are intentionally hiding and burying conservative content in order to promote the Democratic party platform and influence elections.  By law they are acting as a PAC and should be heavily regulated as such if they want to restrict political speech.  That's my rub.

2018-01-11 9:53 PM
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BTW, I did read the national review one you posted.  They're talking about when their actor got outed trying to see if the news would fall for it. 
All of their stories are actors and plants lying to infiltrate organizations and getting people to talk.  We used to call stuff like that investigative journalism (remember Chris Hansen, dateline NBC)  "What would you say you're doing here?"

Anyways, it had nothing to do with the credibility of what they produced, only that their actor got busted.  I'll also admit that it's pushing the envelope to create an alleged sexual assault victim, but it's not much different than dateline NBC posing as teenage girls and having sexual conversations online with men.

2018-01-12 6:26 AM
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No, they are not equivalent. In the case of the news media the argument could be made that what they are doing is entrapment. It certainly crosses the line if the young girl says anything suggestive of a crime. In the PV scenario, the young woman is going to the police with a lie that a crime has occurred. This is not how journalism is done and because of this, and other things PV has done they have lost any credibility they had. These recordings they have could well be valid, or could be totally faked, I don't know and considering the original source I am skeptical. I also don't eat at Chipotle for exactly the same reason.

For those that rely on Twitter, FB, Instagram as the source of information that shapes their world view and opinion, 49.9% of the people in this country have below average intelligence.
2018-01-12 8:57 AM
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Originally posted by Oysterboy No, they are not equivalent. In the case of the news media the argument could be made that what they are doing is entrapment. It certainly crosses the line if the young girl says anything suggestive of a crime. In the PV scenario, the young woman is going to the police with a lie that a crime has occurred. This is not how journalism is done and because of this, and other things PV has done they have lost any credibility they had. These recordings they have could well be valid, or could be totally faked, I don't know and considering the original source I am skeptical. I also don't eat at Chipotle for exactly the same reason. For those that rely on Twitter, FB, Instagram as the source of information that shapes their world view and opinion, 49.9% of the people in this country have below average intelligence.

lol, I agree about the intelligence, but their vote still counts just as much as yours and mine.

PV did not approach the police with their story to report a crime.  That in and of itself would be a crime if they were to do that.  They approached the Washington Post because they believed they were publishing any story of an alleged sexual assault against Roy Moore.  Their actor wasn't very good apparently and they saw through the ruse.  Good on Washington Post, because it showed they do at least do a little bit of vetting.

However, what PV did was no different than any other investigative journalism organization conducting undercover operations to try and flush out a story.



2018-01-12 9:15 AM
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No, reporters that insinuate a crime to tease out a story have crossed a line. PV crossed that line.
2018-01-12 9:19 AM
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There are no entrapment laws for the media......they can "investigate" however they wish.  They only way entrapment comes into play is if they are acting as agents for law enforcement.  They can "investigate" all they want and just leave it out there for the public. 

Never talk to the media OR the police.....rules to live by.

 



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2018-01-12 9:25 AM
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Originally posted by Oysterboy No, reporters that insinuate a crime to tease out a story have crossed a line. PV crossed that line.

I can certainly respect the argument that they did in that case and they paid a price for it too.  I think their typical MO is hiring hot girls to hit on nerdy staffers and they'll tell you every secret they know if they think they're going to get lucky.  hah

If you notice in the twitter video the vast majority of the under cover peeps are women.

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