Metabolic Typing

I've always wondered about these things. Many times I've had discussions about calorie content. Is eating 2k calories in McDonalds the same as eatting 2k calories in lettuce. I know from a balance and energy standpoint neither option is good, but from a weight loss perspective does it matter? From your above post you seem to believe so, do you have any reputable articles to provide or the website that you used to set up your ratios.

People want to beleive that weight loss is as simple as calorie in vs. calorie out.  Not so.  2000 calories of proper nutrition is going to do much more for your body then 2000 calories of fat, greesy, sugary foods.

The governmental guidelines want us to think that all of our bodies diegest and use carbs, proteins, fats, and calories equally.  Just not true.  They also want us to beleive that grains need to be a staple of your diet.  Not true either.  You can get as much if not more nutrients and fiber from vegetables then you can grains.  Grains are less expensive and keep much better.

Depending on who you listen too the ratio's will very.  They will all tell you that the majority of your calories, if you are a fast metabolizer, should come from protein.  They will also tell you to limit or even avoid grains.  I think my problem was I was metabolizing my grains so fast they were not being used for energy but turning into fat.

If you look at cultures around the world you will see people thrive on completely different diets.  In the arctic regions they eat almost nothing but protein because they can not grow grains, fruits, or vegetables.

I'm not saying eveyone should go on a higher protein diet but for some it is the right answer.  My wife for instance, if she were to go on a high protein diet she would feel bloated and lethargic.  Her chemistry will not handle it.

Theres more to weight loss then simply county calories.

Here is one site.  Do a google search on metabolic typing.  You'll find many good reads.

http://caloriecount.about.com/metabolic-types-eating-ft93247

Interesting idea, though raises problems of its own. According to the questionairre I am a fast oxidiser - so it recommends that I eat high purine proteins in the proportions you describe.

Sadly that would send my urate levels rocketing and induce gout!

Just playing devil's advocate - does it not strike you that the questionnaire is inherently likely to catagorise overweight individuals as fast oxidisers? Their dietary choices that have made them overweight would put them into the fast category... tendencies towards fatty, heavy foods, large portions, full meals, insomnia, etc...

I'm going to need to read up on this one, as my first reaction is one of mild scepticism - but then I see the great results it's brought for JC... and it has to have something in it that works!
Cheers,
Kev

You make a great point.  You got me thinking;

 Maybe it is true, fat people tend to be fast oxidizers.  It could be because we (fat people) have made our bodies to be fast oxidizers through our diet.  Just as other cultures around the world have done.

We're all human.  We all have  the same organs.  How/Why can we be so different?  Because of our surroundings.  In early days you ate what you had.  If you were an Eskimo you ate all protein because that's what you had.  I'm sure they would all be fast oxidizers.  In China they didn't have much meat so they were mainly a rice and vegetable (carb) people.

With modern transportation, here in the US and in many other countries we now have choices.  Fat people have chosen to make a diet of the foods that turn us into fast metabolizers.  Maybe its not the test but the type of person that fits that category?

Just a different perspective on it.  I'm no expert on this.  I know it has done the trick for me.

No matter what the reasoning is, not matter what you believe, all I can say is I have not changed one thing except my ratio's and I've lost 8 pounds in 2 weeks.  Before I did not lose 1 pound in over 2 months.

I believe you.
5 years ago I did the low carb thing and I dropped 75 pounds in 6 months (biggest week was 20 pounds) all from keeping my carbs under 50 grams a day. I felt better then ever. Once I went off it and started eating a high carb low fat I gained most of it back over the next 3 years.

My wife is the opposite, she needs protein to help the blood sugar to stay level but can't do the low carb thing for the same reason as your wife can't.

I need to start doing this again.

I definitely would not subscribe this to everyone.  My wife would be sick to her stomach if she ate the way I did.  Please don't think I'm standing on a soap box telling everyone that they need to switch the way they're eating.

I just know I was told I need to eat according to the the "Pyramid".  The Pyramid, for the majority of people, is a good nutritional guide.  When you do things "right" it might not be right for you.

When you're not losing weight and doing the right thing people would talk to me like I was an idiot or was doing something wrong.  Not recording my food properly or not exercising at the intensity I should be.  Weight loss isn't always a matter of calories in vs. calories out.

I get over 125g of carbs and over 25g of fiber from eating veggies (one apple and one banana a day)  I can't see changing my diet.  I feel much better through out the day then I did before.

I'm also not a fan of the Atkins diet.  It is not the same thing.

Interesting idea....

I've never believed calories are the only aspect to weight loss...sure it is part of the equation.

I took the test and it is hard to figure out the answer as I've been working on losing weight and changing my diet since 2003. So do I answer what I was back then or what I am now?

I think I'm similar to you and fast oxidizer. My body doesn't handle processed carbs well at all. I lose weight easily if I keep my carbs low and have carbs come from fruit and veggies. With my increased fitness and almost total diet change, I can handle a bit of carbs better than I could bac 5 years ago.

I would like to drop 15 pounds this year and doing it now with less training is easier. IM training means you need to eat to fuel your workouts and recover from them but now IM is behind me it is a good time now to try.

I read the article you linked. Did you get a book as well?

How long have yo been doing it now?

No book.  I've read quite a few articles on line (take it for what it is).

I've only been doing this for a couple weeks now.

I've always know I did not process starches very well, I just assumed it was the white breads, pasta, and potatoes.  For me, it's all grains.

I try to keep my meat intake to Chicken and Turkey.  I have the occasional lean steak for something different.  I try to keep to the healthy style of the recommendations.  The red meat adds too much fat so it takes away from the healthy fats I'd rather put in my body.

Edited by JC5066 2009-09-16 10:20 AM