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2009-09-17 8:42 AM

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Subject: Ryan Hall and Chris Lieto training
Found this over on the other site. Didn't want to hijack the "Morales and Hoda thread" so am posting this separately. Its a clip of Ryan Hall and Chris Lieto doing 800m repeats. Uhm, all I can say is WOW. Takes a minute or two to get going but once they start it is fantastic. I wish I could do 800m intervals at 7700ft in 2:10-2:20. Chris Lieto looks positively slow in comparison. Pretty neat to watch:
http://www.flotrack.org/videos/coverage/view_video/235353-flotrack-2009-xc-season/200081-ryan-hall-workout-wednesday

2009-09-17 9:19 AM
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just wow, he didnt even look like he broke a sweat running 2:20 half miles. And ya he made the other guy look like he was running backwards.
2009-09-17 9:22 AM
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damn it can't watch it at work.....tagging for later.
2009-09-17 10:08 AM
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Pretty cool watching that. Thats where I went to high school and it is a great place to train.
2009-09-17 10:38 AM
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Subject: RE: Ryan Hall and Chris Lieto training
louiskie - 2009-09-17 8:42 AM  Chris Lieto looks positively slow in comparison.


It's the socks.

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2009-09-17 11:18 AM
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Those guys are FAST. 

Chris Lieto can't even keep up, and he just beat Chris McCormack at the Malibu sprint triathlon this past weekend, running a 5:14/mile on the run leg.

And that's not even in the same league as Ryan Hall on the run. Yowzas!

(Of course, Chris Lieto would destroy both of them on the bike, and likely by an even bigger margin on a swim!) 

2009-09-17 11:43 AM
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Loved the video, but I kept waiting for them to get on the bikes. :P
2009-09-17 11:57 AM
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agarose2000 - 2009-09-17 12:18 PM

Those guys are FAST. 

Chris Lieto can't even keep up, and he just beat Chris McCormack at the Malibu sprint triathlon this past weekend, running a 5:14/mile on the run leg.

And that's not even in the same league as Ryan Hall on the run. Yowzas!

(Of course, Chris Lieto would destroy both of them on the bike, and likely by an even bigger margin on a swim!) 

They are moving pretty dang quick.  Even standing still.  But Lieto was getting crushed by Ryan hall.  I like near the end of the intervals you could see how Lieto got "tired" using much more upper body to propel himself forward.

2009-09-17 12:42 PM
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Wow, he's just flying and looks so smooth with his stride.  I'm sure being 5'10" and only 130lbs helps, but to go under 1 hour in a 1/2 mary is just crazy and so far out of reach for even a strong runner. 

2009-09-17 12:47 PM
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That prompted me to read a little more on him.  Check this out: http://www.nyrr.org/races/pro/usa_distance/ryanhall.asp

Here's an exerpt. That is crazy:
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have never trained harder than I trained during the summer of 2002. Not before I ran 2:06:17 in London, not before I broke an hour for the half-marathon, never. I can still remember putting in session after session of intense training. Here is an example of one of my weeks of training toward the end of the summer. Remember that this training was all done at approximately 7,000 ft.


Mon: AM: 14 by 200M hill sprints/bounding, 3 by slightly downhill and fast 800M (11 miles). PM: 9 by 400M in 60 or better with circuit training (squat, standing jumps, toe raises, stair hops). I did one of the exercises in between each 400, keeping the recovery active and short (7 miles).

Tues: AM: sprints: 10 by 40M, 10 by 80M. Jog to ski resort and run up twice (9 miles). PM: Training run at 6:10 pace (6 miles).

Wed: AM: 2 by three mile repeats at sub 5 minute mile pace (11 miles). PM: 30 minute Z pattern running on a football field (sprinting the diagonals), then a 10 mile uphill run at medium effort (18 miles).

Thur: AM: Sprints (10 by 40M and 10 by 80M) and jog to ski resort and run up twice (9 miles). PM: Jog to ski resort and run up twice (8 miles).

Fri: AM: 8 mile training run. PM: 6 mile tempo run (10 miles).

Sat: AM: ran 16 miles hilly long run.

Sun: AM: 7 easy miles

Total Miles: 120

I vividly remember the intense training I was logging. The actual running was only the half of it. I was doing an hour a day of yoga five days a week, swimming in the lake for 15 minutes most days, and doing a weight program. I was pretty much training all day long. I remember at the end of the summer I felt very strong, but I also lacked pop in my legs. While my workouts were going well I didn't report back to pre-season camp with any freshness in my legs. That was a big mistake. I started off the season well, winning my first two meets but then it was all down hill after September ended. By the time NCAA' rolled around I was hanging on for dear life. I remember finishing the race and seeing my dad afterward commenting that "I never wanted to run a 10K again." It was a disappointing end to the hardest work I had ever done.


 have never trained harder than I trained during the summer of 2002. Not before I ran 2:06:17 in London, not before I broke an hour for the half-marathon, never. I can still remember putting in session after session of intense training. Here is an example of one of my weeks of training toward the end of the summer. Remember that this training was all done at approximately 7,000 ft.


Mon: AM: 14 by 200M hill sprints/bounding, 3 by slightly downhill and fast 800M (11 miles). PM: 9 by 400M in 60 or better with circuit training (squat, standing jumps, toe raises, stair hops). I did one of the exercises in between each 400, keeping the recovery active and short (7 miles).

Tues: AM: sprints: 10 by 40M, 10 by 80M. Jog to ski resort and run up twice (9 miles). PM: Training run at 6:10 pace (6 miles).

Wed: AM: 2 by three mile repeats at sub 5 minute mile pace (11 miles). PM: 30 minute Z pattern running on a football field (sprinting the diagonals), then a 10 mile uphill run at medium effort (18 miles).

Thur: AM: Sprints (10 by 40M and 10 by 80M) and jog to ski resort and run up twice (9 miles). PM: Jog to ski resort and run up twice (8 miles).

Fri: AM: 8 mile training run. PM: 6 mile tempo run (10 miles).

Sat: AM: ran 16 miles hilly long run.

Sun: AM: 7 easy miles

Total Miles: 120

I vividly remember the intense training I was logging. The actual running was only the half of it. I was doing an hour a day of yoga five days a week, swimming in the lake for 15 minutes most days, and doing a weight program. I was pretty much training all day long. I remember at the end of the summer I felt very strong, but I also lacked pop in my legs. While my workouts were going well I didn't report back to pre-season camp with any freshness in my legs. That was a big mistake. I started off the season well, winning my first two meets but then it was all down hill after September ended. By the time NCAA' rolled around I was hanging on for dear life. I remember finishing the race and seeing my dad afterward commenting that "I never wanted to run a 10K again." It was a disappointing end to the hardest work I had ever done. "


2009-09-17 1:11 PM
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120 mpw a week is a lot of miles, but considering that it's not unusual for top marathoners to be 140 at the truly elite level (which he clearly is in), I actually thought it would be a higher figure that would bring him to his knees - even at those hellaciously fast paces. (There are a LOT of amateur runners who are barely BQing who log 100 miles per week on the run.)

 

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agarose2000 - 2009-09-17 1:11 PM 120 mpw a week is a lot of miles, but considering that it's not unusual for top marathoners to be 140 at the truly elite level (which he clearly is in), I actually thought it would be a higher figure that would bring him to his knees - even at those hellaciously fast paces. (There are a LOT of amateur runners who are barely BQing who log 100 miles per week on the run.)

 


That log was when he was still in college and training for 8-10K XC races while he still only considered himself a 1500-5K guy on the track. The 120 miles+ everything is probably more than 99.9% of 1500-5K guys would ever do 
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