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2008-08-05 9:08 AM

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Subject: Am I being unreasonable?
I have lost my training partner. Found someone to train with, was working out really well until husband finally cracks He cannot handle the fact that my partner is a guy.....I am lost without a training partner and furious at my husband for being unreasonable. It was not easy to find someone at the right level to train with , this guy is an awesome cyclist and really pushed me, and
I have improved enormously as a result.

What do you think? How many of you have had issues such as this?


2008-08-05 9:10 AM
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I would say it depends on your relationship. How would you feel about him spending a ton of time training with another woman?

2008-08-05 9:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Am I being unreasonable?
Sticky situation.  Without knowing intimate details it's hard to know if you're being "unreasonable," as you say.  I can see the value in a good training partner....but I can also see a spouse's discomfort with spending a lot of time training with a member of the opposite sex.  Sorry things aren't going well.
2008-08-05 9:25 AM
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It's a tough call.  I train sometimes with a female trainer at my gym, but I make a point of not getting overly friendly with her.  No suggestions of hanging out, getting a bite to eat after the gym, no texts, calls, or emails, except for training purposes.  No hugs when saying goodbye or hello.  It's always been a cordial professional let's get to work type of relationship.  My wife has given me grief a couple of times, but nothing too bad, but she also believes in what Chris Rock said, "Men don't have women friends; they've just got women they haven't"...well, you get the picture.  Keep the relationship all about training, don't give your husband a reason to worry, and you still might have to find a different partner.  It is in some people's nature to be jealous.

 

2008-08-05 9:28 AM
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Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.
2008-08-05 9:29 AM
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I train mostly with guys. My hubby is fine with that and I invite him along to stuff like track workouts so he gets to meet the people that I train with. We also socialize outside of training with my training partner's families. I dont know how much time you spend training with one this guy- I know I do about half my training alone, but still, you could be spending many hours training with someone and that might hurt your spouse's feelings.

I hope you can work it out. Its great when you find good people to train with, that can really push you but it's also important to have harmony at home  



2008-08-05 9:30 AM
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Hard to say without more info. I train with men and women, and alone lots to. However, most of the guys Ive trained with are married and my husband knows them and their wives also through our tri club. But realistically, all I do with any of my training partners is meet at the training destination, train, and head home. Every once and a while if people want to do dinner after, its with others from our group. So there is never any need for jealousy. You should be able to train alone though, and if you keep playing it as "you need" this person to train, that could be a issue.

If hes just a jealous person, thats a whole different story that probably isnt tri related, but spills over.

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2008-08-05 9:30 AM
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I've been there with my wife.  I guess I can see her point...even though everything was innocent (we were just training together).  I didn't put up much of an argument with my wife and find myself training with guys and mostly alone.   It just wasn't worth the conflict for me. 

2008-08-05 9:30 AM
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Tell you husband that he better cowboy up and become your training partner now, since he deprived you of one.  

2008-08-05 9:30 AM
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Triathlon is an individual sport.  Yes training in groups helps.  Yes, you should be able to train occasionally with a person of the opposite sex, but the idea that your whole training is falling apart because of this is ridiculous.  Other than an occasional swim or a rare bike with others, all my training is done on my own.

Also, remember that this is a hobby.  It is not worth aggravation just to train with someone whom your significant other disapproves of.  Put things in perspective...

Sorry, I know this sounds kind of harsh, but so did your post.  Your SO is bothered for a reason.  Maybe look into why that is.  Maybe, jelous of time, maybe insecure, maybe wishing that he could be that person that you rely on.  Whatever the reason, it is justified in his mind and you owe it to him to respect that.

2008-08-05 9:33 AM
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Scout7 - 2008-08-05 10:28 AM Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

Not to turn this into a CoJ thread, but really, are people obliged to indulge their partner's insecurities?

ETA: My post made me sound uncompromising, so to clarify: Yes, we have to be sensitive, but this is a good opportunity to explore the feelings. Discuss the situation and try to find a reasonable compromise.



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2008-08-05 9:36 AM
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Opus - 2008-08-05 10:33 AM

Scout7 - 2008-08-05 10:28 AM Yes. You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

Not to turn this into a CoJ thread, but really, are people obliged to indulge their partner's insecurities?

I would say that training can be accomplished alone, and that without further discussion with the husband, or more details, it may be more than just a simple insecurity.

Either way, I'd say it sounds like the OP wants to ignore her husbands issues because she feels hers are more important. 

2008-08-05 9:37 AM
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I think it's unreasonable that you're "lost" without a training partner...
2008-08-05 9:37 AM
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Lot's of other potential training partners out there who are women that with some effort I would think you could find but you only have one husband.  Jealousy within reason is a basic and normal human emotion and even though you may not have any otehr intentions other than just training and it could very well just stay that way, many bad situations start this way and I think it's reasonable for him to have a problem with that.  I know it's frustratin but it seems to be that he has a reasonable concern and it's best for you to put your marriage over your training.

I hope you can work something out with a female partner.

2008-08-05 9:37 AM
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Opus - 2008-08-05 9:33 AM

Scout7 - 2008-08-05 10:28 AM Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

Not to turn this into a CoJ thread, but really, are people obliged to indulge their partner's insecurities



If you are married, yes.

2008-08-05 9:44 AM
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I understand your husbands point of view...Rickey doesn't always like the fact that some of the people I train with are men...but reassuring him that there is nothing there besides friendship and training...and inviting him along often helps (doesnt completely cure) the jelous feelings.


2008-08-05 9:45 AM
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Is your husband a teenager? This sounds like the kind of stuff that goes on when a guy is insercure or when he doesn't have complete trust in his partner.

I train with anyone I want with no problem. There is a reason I'm married and that's because I'm madly in love and my wife knows it.

She has no problem with me training with anyone. She is the only female executive at her company and I have no problem with her traveling on business trips with her colleagues.

Tell your husband to grow up!

2008-08-05 9:48 AM
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KSH - 2008-08-05 10:37 AM
Opus - 2008-08-05 9:33 AM

Scout7 - 2008-08-05 10:28 AM Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

Not to turn this into a CoJ thread, but really, are people obliged to indulge their partner's insecurities

If you are married, yes.

x2  They say 'for better or worse" for a reason.  If people don't like that part, then don't be married.  It's better to be happily divorced than miserable in marriage.

 

2008-08-05 9:49 AM
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Had issues with this in an earlier life. Had more to do with SO insecurity than anything else...no more her!

NOW wifey is training partner so no problems!

That being said, sounds like something that transcends training with a person of the opposite sex. The reason for your frustration may lie beyond not being able to train with this guy. Sounds like a serious heart to heart is in order. Good luck!

2008-08-05 9:55 AM
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Scout7 - 2008-08-05 9:28 AM Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

That's an unfair statement to make without knowing what is going on behind the scenes... he very well could be putting his own insecurity above his wife.

Its hard for anyone here at BT to make this call without knowing more about the details of your relationship.  Does he have a reason to be jealous?  How do you know this guy?  etc...

 

Seems to me there is something else going on that has nothing to do with triathlon training.

2008-08-05 9:57 AM
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I'm sorry, Aquagirl. That's too bad. I train with guys a lot. Most of them are married, just like me. Others are single. My hubby kids me about it, but he knows they are indeed just training partners. I do a lot of my training solo and he actually prefers me to ride with someone when I am on long-distance rides or in the mountains. I guess that's the benefit of being married to a cyclist. We don't get to ride together very often because we have two kids that are too young to be left alone.

A happy marriage is more important than a training partner. Is there no way to discuss the situation? Can you explain the safety factor of riding with someone vs. being out on the road alone if something happens? Does he have any friends that are female?

My hubby knows that he is the man for me. These other guys are just friends and training partners. No worries. He trusts me and I trust him. I would never in a million years cross over that line and do something to hurt my family. I tell him this often. I also tell him how lucky I am to have such a wonderful, caring husband who supports my tri habit and encourages me to ride with other people. That may sound like sugar-coated crap, but I mean every word of it.

I hope you and your husband can work out a good compromise.

Pam


2008-08-05 9:58 AM
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triOK - 2008-08-05 10:55 AM

Its hard for anyone here at BT to make this call without knowing more about the details of your relationship.  Does he have a reason to be jealous?  How do you know this guy?  etc...

Yup.. I agree. We need more details to make a call.  How often do you train together?  Do you just meet up, train, and go home or do you hang out together outside of training? 

2008-08-05 10:00 AM
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KSH - 2008-08-05 10:37 AM

Opus - 2008-08-05 9:33 AM

Scout7 - 2008-08-05 10:28 AM Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

Not to turn this into a CoJ thread, but really, are people obliged to indulge their partner's insecurities



If you are married, yes.



X2. One of the biggest heartaches/benefits of being married is compromising what you do to keep a good relationship.

Of note, I don't have this problem considering most of the people, male and female, that fall into my fitness level are like me, short, fat and out of shape!
2008-08-05 10:03 AM
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KSH - 2008-08-05 10:37 AM
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Scout7 - 2008-08-05 10:28 AM Yes.  You're putting your training ahead of your husband.

Not to turn this into a CoJ thread, but really, are people obliged to indulge their partner's insecurities

If you are married, yes.

There may be a nuance that was missed here. Indulging your partner's insecurities means accepting them as reasonable and not questioning them. If you do that, you pretty much ensure that your relationship will not grow.

How about if your husband didn't like that you had to work with men? Or didn't like that you went to the gym at all because there were fit single men there? 

There is a point where insecurities have to be dealt with. I have seen some really insecure, bordering on tyrannical men who sought to limit the activities of their wives and girlfriends based on their own fears. That is not cool.

A mature relationship is one where trust and respect is extended in both directions. If you feel insecure at one point, you have to realize it's your problem, not your partner's.

2008-08-05 10:07 AM
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My wife actually asked her female co-worker who does Ironman's to help me train and give me advice.  And once I get better I am going to train with her.

 It sucks that your husband is so insecure to think that just because you spend time with someone, it means you are leaving.  Does it happen?  Yes, but I wonder how strong a relationship is when it does happen.  If he was comfortable with your marriage, it wouldnt bother him. (Note: I am not passing judgement on your relationship since I have no idea)

 

By the way, I'm new here, so hi everyone!

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