help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?
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2009-09-05 5:28 PM |
Member 190![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Panama City Beach | Subject: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?My wife is a very capable woman! Very smart (1st in MBA class), very good shape (1:58 1/2 Mary), and reasonably comfortable in the water. She is wanting to do her first Tri in Oct., and we went to the pool for the first time today. Oh what fun!?! She was having allot of trouble breathing, so I gave her a snorkel, but she had trouble NOT breathing through her nose. No no, it's not funny. I was hoping you guys out there had some tip for a true beginner. Maybe there are some people that started out with no experience, that remembers their first steps, and some of the aids they used. Snorkels, nose plugs, fins,..... life jacket? And no, I'm not a mean husband. I read this to her and she thought it was funny. |
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2009-09-05 6:05 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Extreme Veteran 567![]() ![]() ![]() Kingwood, TX | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?RichMan - 2009-09-05 5:28 PM My wife is a very capable woman! Very smart (1st in MBA class), very good shape (1:58 1/2 Mary), and reasonably comfortable in the water. She is wanting to do her first Tri in Oct., and we went to the pool for the first time today. Oh what fun!?! She was having allot of trouble breathing, so I gave her a snorkel, but she had trouble NOT breathing through her nose. No no, it's not funny. I was hoping you guys out there had some tip for a true beginner. Maybe there are some people that started out with no experience, that remembers their first steps, and some of the aids they used. Snorkels, nose plugs, fins,..... life jacket? And no, I'm not a mean husband. I read this to her and she thought it was funny. I started out the same way a few months ago. It slowly got better each time I went to the pool but I was getting frustrated. After a couple of weeks I had to do something and a friend recommended the book, "Total Immersion". I read it cover to cover and started doing the drills the author suggested and it all started to make sense. IMO, that book is worth is weight in gold. If you search Total Immersion on this forum you will find tons of threads talking about it! Also, a cool site that has a lot of pointers is www.swimsmooth.com ... download the Mr. Smooth app and it gives you a really good visual on how the stroke is supposed to look. Good luck! |
2009-09-05 6:16 PM in reply to: #2391633 |
New user 16 | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?I agree with the Total Immersion suggestion. I bought the DVD and feel much more relaxed in the water. It starts with very basic exercises like floating.I can remember taking a scuba class and having to use a snorkel without a mask. It took awhile to get used to. She'll get it. |
2009-09-05 7:08 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
155![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?It was a long time ago, but at swim practice we used to use a kickboard for a few laps while we were fully extended and used our normal breathing. Just no arm movements. This should help to get breathing down, and then add in strokes as she feels comfortable. |
2009-09-05 8:06 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Champion 7704![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Williamston, Michigan | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?I'd also suggest a masters progrm or a few swim lessons. Also to keep at it.... |
2009-09-05 8:14 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Iron Donkey 38643![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() , Wisconsin | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?I wasn't a swimmer, had the basic skills with some natural ability, watched other people swim, watched some of the swimming tips videos, and then finally gutted it through on my own and am doing "okay" right now, but need a LOT of improvement. I would suggest checking into a coach to help. For the time being, do some YouTube searches regarding breathing techniques/swimming tips/techniques, they're out there. Stay calm and relaxed, and do a little at a time, starting SLOW. Things fall into place, just like running and biking. Good luck! |
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2009-09-06 12:50 AM in reply to: #2391606 |
Master 1890![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cypress, CA | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?Total Immersion is a good suggestion, but it sounds like she's pretty much starting from scratch so I think the most efficient thing would be to get a couple of lessons from a qualified swim instructor. Check out your local YMCA, see if they offer anything. |
2009-09-06 1:35 AM in reply to: #2391606 |
Expert 973![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Berkeley, Calif. | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?RichMan - 2009-09-05 3:28 PM My wife is a very capable woman! Very smart (1st in MBA class), very good shape (1:58 1/2 Mary), and reasonably comfortable in the water. She is wanting to do her first Tri in Oct., and we went to the pool for the first time today. Oh what fun!?! She was having allot of trouble breathing, so I gave her a snorkel, but she had trouble NOT breathing through her nose. No no, it's not funny. I was hoping you guys out there had some tip for a true beginner. Maybe there are some people that started out with no experience, that remembers their first steps, and some of the aids they used. Snorkels, nose plugs, fins,..... life jacket? And no, I'm not a mean husband. I read this to her and she thought it was funny. First, let your wife know that it is TOTALLY NORMAL to feel this way at first. Second, dump the snorkel. The only "tool" I'd recommend for someone brand new is earplugs (they helped me a lot). Third, LESSONS. They don't have to be fancy -- a group class at the Y, a couple of sessions with a local high school/college swimmer -- just something inexpensive that will help her out with the basics. I learned how to swim as a kid and have always been perfectly comfortable in the water (and I'm also a very capable woman), but the first time I tried to do laps as an adult I freaked out and couldn't figure out the breathing thing at all. I ended up "practicing" in the shower by breathing in, putting my face in the water and breathing out, then turning my head and breathing in, and so on. Doing the same thing at the pool would be very helpful. Someone else mentioned it -- she could grab a kickboard and do laps kicking and practicing just breathing out in the water and turning her head and breathing in. (If she's embarrassed about looking like a beginner, remind her that lots of experienced swimmers do kick drills.) |
2009-09-06 2:36 AM in reply to: #2391985 |
Regular 60![]() ![]() New Orleans | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?I was afraid to use the kickboards too cause I didnt want anyone to look at me like I was a beginner. You know what? I was....duh!!!! lol But it is nice that u mentioned that experienced people use them for drills as well. Makes me feel better about using them. |
2009-09-06 5:48 AM in reply to: #2391606 |
Expert 1007![]() Hattiesburg, Mississippi | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?Total imersion works wonders, I find the DVD's easiest to deal with. Lessons will help her the most I think. One thing my coach had me do was to stand in shallow end, facing the pool deck, you can use a pull bouy inbetween your legs for flotation, grab a hold of the edge at water level and float face down in the water. You can practice breathing and rolling your body from side to side without having to deal with any motion. Just take one arm off and hold it by your side as you roll your body to the side to get air. It helped me a lot. Good Luck! |
2009-09-06 7:10 AM in reply to: #2391985 |
Member 190![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Panama City Beach | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?Thanks, she really liked your advice. I think if she feels comfortable that she will be able to get a breath. She is going to try these very basic breathing tips. |
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2009-09-06 7:12 AM in reply to: #2392017 |
Member 190![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Panama City Beach | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?blujay65 - 2009-09-06 5:48 AM Total imersion works wonders, I find the DVD's easiest to deal with. Lessons will help her the most I think. One thing my coach had me do was to stand in shallow end, facing the pool deck, you can use a pull bouy inbetween your legs for flotation, grab a hold of the edge at water level and float face down in the water. You can practice breathing and rolling your body from side to side without having to deal with any motion. Just take one arm off and hold it by your side as you roll your body to the side to get air. It helped me a lot. Good Luck! Thanks, she is going to try this at the pool today. |
2009-09-06 10:19 AM in reply to: #2391606 |
53![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?Hey, this situation sounds familiar. I was convinced that I was a good swimmer until I tried a lap at a local pool. Then I was sure I was just going to sink! I have no formal swim training what so ever, and just did my first 1 mile ocean swim in 33 minutes. Not too shabby for a non swimmer I started out by doing the following: 1) looked up swimming on youtube and watched people swim. 2) read total immersion book and watched some videos on internet 3) remember to stay relaxed and to swim slow at first until you get used to the breathing. If you try to swim too fast, you'll get winded and start to feel panic. Slow your stroke down even to the point of feeling silly. Work on the technique that you've learned via reading/watching or if you can afford it hire a coach. Learning to stay calm in the water is the most important skill in my opinion. 4) One of my favorite drills is with the kick board. I kick, and count to 3, then turn my head to one side and take a breath. Put head back in water, repeat but take a breath to the other side. I can't tell you the value of learning to breath on both sides. She'll have a favorite but a good swimmer should be able to breath on either side. 5) don't exhale until just before you turn your head to take a breath. No one told me this until my 3rd season of triathlons! It changed my life. No seriously! I was exhaling the entire time my head was under water. 5) Swimming isn't about trying harder. It's about good technique. Learning to swim takes patience! 6) Once your wife is able to swim a lap, stay focused on technique, but start working on swimming consecutive laps in a row. I alternated between freestyle and backstroke. But the important thing is to keep moving so she can build up her endurance in the water and learn to pace herself. 7) when she's able to do a little distance, and stroke is getting stronger, join a local masters swim class. Nothing motivates a new swimmer to push herself like swimming in a group with other people!! Good luck. Mastering the swim portion of a triathlon has been my most exciting and rewarding part of being a triathlete! |
2009-09-06 1:46 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Champion 7558![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?OK...she's a smart person, so she should understand the value of hiring an expert for the situation. In this case, that's a swim instructor (maybe group lessons). For working on it on her own, have her "hum" while her face is in the water. That forces a steady, controlled, exhale through the nose (just be sure to wait intill her face is out of the water to breathe in again). Relax, and spend a fair amount of time just pushing off the wall and gliding (no kicking, no arm stroke) as far as possible. She'll start to understand balance and what kinds of things help/hurt the distance. |
2009-09-06 3:06 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
309![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?Coming from a non-swimmer three months ago...(no lessons ever)I recommend first making a solid commitment to go a certain number of times each week and sticking to it. I go 3, but am upping to 4 the next couple of weeks because my tri is in Oct. (My first) Make very small goals. Like swim 50 yards without a rest this week...then next week up it and so on. Swimming was the one thing that seemed (seems) to take the longest to be fit enough to do a reasonable distance. I am in good shape...for me...can bike 30 miles, run 3-4 miles fairly easily, but until a short time ago could not swim 100 yards with out gasping for breathI started in June as a doggy paddler. I was so swimming stupid...that the drills I read about didn't make sense. I can now swim about 900 yards. 200 warm-up, then my 500 that I am trying to up, then a cool-down of 200 yards. I plan to work on drills all winter now that I kind of know what I am doing. You can't get any more beginner than I was...Your wife will do great! Another thing that helped me was nose clips. I still wear them. Was so hard to go from the runner's breathing of in the nose, out the mouth to swimmer's breathing of in the mouth and out the nose. I just use the clips and do it all through my mouth for now. Small strides. Some weeks it seems like there are no advances, but every month assess how far you are from the beginning. I doesn't seem to me that great strides are made in swimming every week...it's a slooooow process. Just keep doing it is the key. Good luck to you and your wife! |
2009-09-06 3:10 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
309![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?5) don't exhale until just before you turn your head to take a breath. No one told me this until my 3rd season of triathlons! It changed my life. No seriously! I was exhaling the entire time my head was under water. Seriously???? Geeez maybe someone should have told me this sooner! I'll be trying this tip! I breath out the entire time Im under. |
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2009-09-06 6:38 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Member 190![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Panama City Beach | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?WOW! Today went much much better! Everyone's tips were very helpful, we are planning on getting the 'total immersion'. Blujay65 & Fielding: your guys advise was the key. We spent a lot of time on the side of the pool just sticking her head in the water and rotating to breath. After getting really comfortable with that she did the same thing with the kick board and fins. She progressed quickly after that, and did six kick and switch, and catch up drills. Now that she knows the drills to help with breathing, she can start working on stroke and building distance. |
2009-09-06 8:35 PM in reply to: #2392577 |
Expert 1007![]() Hattiesburg, Mississippi | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?RichMan - 2009-09-06 6:38 PM WOW! Today went much much better! Everyone's tips were very helpful, we are planning on getting the 'total immersion'. Blujay65 & Fielding: your guys advise was the key. We spent a lot of time on the side of the pool just sticking her head in the water and rotating to breath. After getting really comfortable with that she did the same thing with the kick board and fins. She progressed quickly after that, and did six kick and switch, and catch up drills. Now that she knows the drills to help with breathing, she can start working on stroke and building distance. This is great to hear! Tell her to keep at it, at this rate she'll be doing laps in no time! I think the 'blowing' out thing is personal preference. I blow out throughout the stroke, but do save a last little breath for the end just as I go up for air. |
2009-09-06 10:43 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Master 2460![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?I'm not a strong swimmer, but I improved a lot in a year. |
2009-09-07 12:38 AM in reply to: #2392577 |
Expert 973![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Berkeley, Calif. | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?RichMan - 2009-09-06 4:38 PM WOW! Today went much much better! Everyone's tips were very helpful, we are planning on getting the 'total immersion'. Blujay65 & Fielding: your guys advise was the key. We spent a lot of time on the side of the pool just sticking her head in the water and rotating to breath. After getting really comfortable with that she did the same thing with the kick board and fins. She progressed quickly after that, and did six kick and switch, and catch up drills. Now that she knows the drills to help with breathing, she can start working on stroke and building distance. Yay! I'm so glad to hear it. Just tell her to not worry about her speed for now. With her first race in four weeks she needs to focus on being able to go the distance. A mix of drills and just plain old lap swimming will help her a lot. I'd also recommend what someone else said above, that she get in the pool as much as she can -- three or four days a week would be great. |
2009-09-07 8:00 AM in reply to: #2392394 |
Pro 6011![]() ![]() Camp Hill, Pennsylvania | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?nadaswimmer - 2009-09-06 4:10 PM 5) don't exhale until just before you turn your head to take a breath. No one told me this until my 3rd season of triathlons! It changed my life. No seriously! I was exhaling the entire time my head was under water. Seriously???? Geeez maybe someone should have told me this sooner! I'll be trying this tip! I breath out the entire time Im under. I think this is a personal preference. I exhale the entire time my face is in the water. This even includes coming off a turn. Ditto the comments about loosing all the "toys" like snorkels, nose plugs, and paddles. They can turn into crutches for beginners. It's better to spend a lot of time doing drills to learn proper technique so it becomes habit rather than become reliant on gadgets. Paddles should only be used by more experienced swimmers that have established good technique. Using them too much and/or with improper technique can cause shoulder injuries. Pool buoys and kickboards are useful tools used in moderation for specific purposes. Keep encouraging your wife to stick with it, use TI, and if possible, try to get a couple sessions with a coach in the coming weeks. If she does that, She'll have a fun race. |
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2009-09-07 8:31 PM in reply to: #2392394 |
Champion 7558![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Albuquerque, New Mexico | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?nadaswimmer - 2009-09-06 3:10 PM 5) don't exhale until just before you turn your head to take a breath. No one told me this until my 3rd season of triathlons! It changed my life. No seriously! I was exhaling the entire time my head was under water. Seriously???? Geeez maybe someone should have told me this sooner! I'll be trying this tip! I breath out the entire time Im under. Don't hold your breath!! Think about it for a minute. What happens when you try to hold your breath? Your whole body tenses up (lack of extension as you bring your arm forward under water, poor rotation and a weak kick because you can't really use your rigid core). This is not what you want when you're swimming. You'll spend the entire time fighting tight muscles. Breathe out with a steady, controlled, exhale while your face is in the water. Holding your breath leads to the "blast-n-gasp" form of freestyle where you try to blast out the exhale and gulp in another lung-full of (hopefully) air. Your face has to spend a lot of time out of the water to do this and that's when most people start lifting their head because they're worried about not getting air. Lots of belching, farting, and that bloated feeling when you're done swimming. |
2009-09-07 8:50 PM in reply to: #2391606 |
Veteran 287![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: help for brand new swimmer. Tip from other newbies?Get a coach! Even it is just for a session or two, it will be invaluable. |
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