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2008-09-16 6:28 PM |
17 | Subject: low budget = bad bike..?Good evening all, I am a new member and I had a question. I'm new to the triathlon scene and have been looking for a bike. I really cant afford anything over $500.00 right now so I'm having a hard time finding a decent bike. I am getting fitted this weekend at my LBS, but just by browsing online I only find used bikes from the 80's in my price range. New bikes are definately out of the question unless you're talking about Walmart..which I do not plan to buy at all. bikesdirect.com has a few choices under $500.00 but I've heard some negative things about these bikes. Any advice from the choices on bikesdirect or other advice in general? Here is the link for bikesdirect..I'm looking at the two "entry-level" sections: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/road_bikes.htm |
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2008-09-16 6:48 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?Keep looking. The only problem is that with used you're going to want to see it in person and preferably get some sort of return policy. I picked up a decent used Redline for less than what you're looking at for a max price and ride the thing still when it's wet out. |
2008-09-16 7:06 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Extreme Veteran 377![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Western, Mass | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?There are 2 real criteria for the best bike. 1. Fit 2. what you can afford. if the bike fits right and feels right and only costs $400, then it is the best, for now. Stay away from dept store bikes, you won't be happy. kevin |
2008-09-16 7:22 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Member 279![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() DC Metro | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?My husband's bike was less than $500. It was a 2007 model Felt road bike marked down, original price was a little over $900. It wasn't used, just last years model. I'd definitely shop around and see what specials are offered. I think the season is coming to a close so bike shops may be marking their bikes down considerably. Although thats only a guess. |
2008-09-16 8:33 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Champion 10668![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Tacoma, Washington | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?Realistically, your options are leading you into the used realm. That's not necessarily bad. I've done some budget builds of some decent quality for under $300, some of which were parts that I had laying around. But the key is (1) knowing what you're looking at (you may want to recruit some knowledgeable help here), and (2) being patient. |
2008-09-16 9:02 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Member 34![]() st. paul, Minnesota | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?x2 on the being patient. Something nice within your price range will come around as long as you don't settle for the "well its pretty close to my size". good luck with finding a new bike |
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2008-09-17 11:30 AM in reply to: #1678438 |
Expert 934![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() FL | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?I had to keep my eyes peeled on craigslist for 2-3 months before a good deal at the right price in the right size came up. I was glad I waited. I got a great 2004 Felt with a free brand new expensive helmet and a computer. Be patient but you need to know your size in the different brands. |
2008-09-17 11:37 AM in reply to: #1678438 |
Expert 1014![]() Virginia | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?I paid around $500 for my bike. I got it from a bike store that was clearing it out to make room for the 2008s (my bike is a 07 specialized dolce). Maybe call around some bike shops and see if you can find some with older models that they are willing to part with for a lower price. Good luck! |
2008-09-17 6:26 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
17 | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?Thanks for the advice. I will scope out my LBS this weekend and see what they have to offer.. So I take it the mentioned bikes on bikesdirect.com are trash? |
2008-09-17 6:41 PM in reply to: #1681027 |
Expert 1379![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Woodland, California | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?acueva - 2008-09-17 4:26 PM So I take it the mentioned bikes on bikesdirect.com are trash? Not at all. The main problem with buying from them is that you don't get to try the bike out or have a fitting before you buy it, and when it arrives you have to take it to the LBS to have it set it up or do it yourself. I was very happy with the road bike I got from them for ~$500. My sister rides it now and she loves it. |
2008-09-17 7:01 PM in reply to: #1681027 |
Extreme Veteran 378![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Seattle | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?acueva - 2008-09-17 4:26 PM Thanks for the advice. I will scope out my LBS this weekend and see what they have to offer.. So I take it the mentioned bikes on bikesdirect.com are trash? I know there are some negative stories out there about bikesdirect, but here they seem to be generally positive. A summary of a couple of the recommendations I found on here about bikesdirect: Choose your size carefully - look at the frame measurements etc that are provided and see how they compare to bikes you have tried at the store. Unless you are extremely proficient, have an LBS that you trust assemble the bike for you. Also, have them help you with fit after it is assembled. The general feeling seems to be that most people would buy from their LBS if they could afford it, because of the follow-up service and tuning that goes with that and the opportunity to try several bikes. However, if money is your primary concern it can be tough to justify paying LBS prices. If you are careful, bikesdirect can be a good option. You can get a decent bike with good components for a very good price. Good luck. |
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2008-09-17 7:37 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
17 | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?What do you think of this bike? It doesnt look like a 2008 to me. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/844899928.html
I dont see the size though...the location is close enough to where I can ride it first. |
2008-09-18 11:22 AM in reply to: #1681132 |
Extreme Veteran 378![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Seattle | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?acueva - 2008-09-17 5:37 PM What do you think of this bike? It doesnt look like a 2008 to me. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/844899928.html
I dont see the size though...the location is close enough to where I can ride it first. I can't comment too much on the bike itself as I am definitely no bike expert but (as you probably know) that's a bikesdirect bike being resold. Current version: http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/motobecane/mirage_pro09.htm A BT member posted a review of it here: http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/gear/review.asp?reviewid=1018 If the size is OK, it can't hurt to try it out, right? One thing I noticed is that the components listed on the craigslist ad don't quite match the ones on the bikesdirect site (craigslist says 105 rear derailer etc) - I would double check on that stuff and to make sure there is no damage etc. Otherwise in my completely non-expert opinion, worth a look if you were considering bikesdirect anyway?... Good luck.
Edited by danielc 2008-09-18 11:40 AM |
2008-09-18 11:43 AM in reply to: #1681132 |
Elite 3371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?acueva - 2008-09-17 8:37 PM What do you think of this bike? It doesnt look like a 2008 to me. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/844899928.html
I dont see the size though...the location is close enough to where I can ride it first. It looks like a good buy, saves you about $150 from the bikesdirect price, plus this one comes with pedals if you don't have any currently. I do however wonder if this is really a brand new bike and why he is selling. Its a 2008, but that doesn't mean he hasn't ridden it. |
2008-09-18 12:33 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Champion 5575![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Butler | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?Bikedirect bikes are not trash. I paid $350 shipped for a Motobecane Mirage Sport a few years ago and used it for 1 year before upgrading to the Motobecane Nemesis Tri bike. Both bikes have served me well. I am consistently in the top 1/3 or higher in the bike portion of my races. It is more about the engine than the bike. If you need to spend less than $500 get a bikesdirect bike and you will be fine. |
2008-09-18 2:09 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
, Texas | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?In addition to craigslist and ebay (you can search within a radius of your zip), you should try to find a local bike or tri club's website. They often have message boards and will often have bikes for sale. It's also a good idea to post a "wanted to buy" thread there. When I entered tri's, I found several bikes this way but I was looking for sub $100 '80s bikes. I ended up with an '87 Schwinn with Shimano 105 components for $40. Once I was hooked, I kept an eye out for a tri bike and not long after I found a '95 Klein tri bike with Ultegra components for $375. I read a ton about sizing and fit and I'm a mechanical type, so I was pretty sure I was prepared to buy a used bike without the aid of an LBS. If you're looking for a tri bike, you can get some really good deals on the older round tube models of the late '90s and earlly '00s(Klein Aeolus, Quintana Roo: Kilo, Private Reserve, USA Special Edition (steel), Cannondale MultiSport line: MS600, MS800, MS2000 are a few nice ones). Despite the minimal aero advantage of the shaped tubes (aero fork makes more differnece), most people will not consider a bike with round tubes. One thing to keep in mind, though is these older bikes mostly have a 78* seat angle & 650c wheels as opposed the now common 76* seat angle and 700c wheels. If you're looking for a road bike, you should be able to find more available and may not have to wait as long. Personally, I wouldn't settle for anything less than 105 components unless it's a real good deal. |
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2008-09-18 2:16 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
, Texas | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?Oh, and I agree the bikes direct bikes are fine, especially the normal road/tri bikes. My problem with BD is that they have NO R&D. They usually copy the specs of another bike and have their factory (which makes alot other bikes too) make it. I found this out first hand when I was building a fixed gear bike. They were basing the frame on the Surly Steamroller but wanted for larger tire clearance. They spec'ed it so large, even the 'long reach' brake calipers wouldn't reach the rim on the rear and didn't realize this until after they received their first shipment of 500 frames, which just happened to be the time they first attempted to build a bike with the frame. I have no doubt the quality is as good as other bikes similarily spec'ed and they are a really good deal. My opinion is that I'd rather give a little more money to a company doing the R&D and not trying to get sales based on older bike companies that have let their US name rights expire. |
2008-09-18 2:55 PM in reply to: #1682594 |
Extreme Veteran 378![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Seattle | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?camy - 2008-09-18 12:16 PM ...sales based on older bike companies that have let their US name rights expire. I admit that this part makes me uncomfortable, especially since they (imo) hover on the brink of intentionally misleading people towards thinking that the bikesdirect bikes are from the same company as the original ones. For example, under the listing for a Mercier label bike on the ebay outlet for bikesdirect, it used to say something like "LANCE ARMSTRONG RODE A MERCIER IN HIS FIRST TOUR!!!" - neglecting to add that THAT Mercier was a company that was wound up many years ago. Also, the websites that they throw up for each of the labels are kind of ridiculous and are probably pretty much just there so that they can claim that there really is an "MSRP" (which no-one ever actually pays). See www.cyclesmercier.com, www.motobecane.com etc However, as camy says, if you can get past ALL of that stuff and just look at the price and what you get for it, it can be a good deal for some people.
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2008-09-19 5:46 PM in reply to: #1678640 |
Veteran 381![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?I was looking not so long ago and Craigslist.com was a good site also bikesdirect is where I purchased my motobecane. Craigslist I bought a KHS carbon fork bike for 500 cash but It was small for me so I ended up selling it shortly after. Good luck.
edit: I shouldve read the other posts they pretty much covered all I said. Edited by benc84 2008-09-19 5:47 PM |
2008-09-21 8:53 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Master 1809![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() hiding in your closet | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?i agree with the patience thing. i recently picked up a 06 felt srd72 for almost half price. i had seen it hangin on the wall a year before for 1499.00. one day i walk in to browse and it is on sale for 799.00. hard to pass up. in the meen time keep saving, you never know what you might find. Edited by comet the dog 2008-09-21 8:57 PM |
2008-09-21 9:13 PM in reply to: #1678438 |
Champion 7821![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Brooklyn, NY | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?It's too bad that bikesdirect upgraded the MiragePro. It used to be $540 until they upgraded the drivetrain and marked it up to >$600. It was a great entry-level bike for triathletes. I have no complaints about mine, and I think you'd be fine with using bikesdirect as long as you understand what you're getting. |
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2008-09-21 9:20 PM in reply to: #1682572 |
Davenport, IA | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?camy - 2008-09-18 2:09 PM In addition to craigslist and ebay (you can search within a radius of your zip), you should try to find a local bike or tri club's website. They often have message boards and will often have bikes for sale. It's also a good idea to post a "wanted to buy" thread there. When I entered tri's, I found several bikes this way but I was looking for sub $100 '80s bikes. I ended up with an '87 Schwinn with Shimano 105 components for $40. Once I was hooked, I kept an eye out for a tri bike and not long after I found a '95 Klein tri bike with Ultegra components for $375. I read a ton about sizing and fit and I'm a mechanical type, so I was pretty sure I was prepared to buy a used bike without the aid of an LBS. If you're looking for a tri bike, you can get some really good deals on the older round tube models of the late '90s and earlly '00s(Klein Aeolus, Quintana Roo: Kilo, Private Reserve, USA Special Edition (steel), Cannondale MultiSport line: MS600, MS800, MS2000 are a few nice ones). Despite the minimal aero advantage of the shaped tubes (aero fork makes more differnece), most people will not consider a bike with round tubes. One thing to keep in mind, though is these older bikes mostly have a 78* seat angle & 650c wheels as opposed the now common 76* seat angle and 700c wheels. If you're looking for a road bike, you should be able to find more available and may not have to wait as long. Personally, I wouldn't settle for anything less than 105 components unless it's a real good deal. This is great advice. A friend of mine just bought an '06 Trek Pilot 2.1 with computer, pedals, shoes, etc...for $400. |
2008-09-23 9:21 AM in reply to: #1681132 |
Master 1517![]() ![]() Western MA near the VT & NH border on the CT river | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?acueva - 2008-09-17 8:37 PM What do you think of this bike? It doesnt look like a 2008 to me. http://atlanta.craigslist.org/bik/844899928.html
I dont see the size though...the location is close enough to where I can ride it first. I have this bike. I bought it off ebay and have been very happy with it so far. For a limited budget its not a bad option, probably the best option for a new new bike at that price. |
2008-09-26 9:49 AM in reply to: #1678438 |
Veteran 263![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() What used to be the country, PA | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?Here's my story: My wife wanted to shoot me when I said last year I wanted to buy a tri-bike, and she saw what they cost in the store and even in my "watched items" on eBay. I knew the size I needed; I was patient and wound up the only bidder on a mid-90s Quintana Roo bike; got it with shipping for $200. The paint's not the best, the tubes aren't fancy aero, but the components and wheels are great. I sunk maybe another $250 into a better crankset, new tires, a computer, pedals, tools and such (most of that on eBay too). I do most of the work myself, mostly by remembering what my dad taught me when I was a kid when we would work on the many used bikes at our house. Contrary to popular belief, bikes last a lot longer than the bike companies would like us to believe. So in the end, I'm still married, have money in my pocket, and in my first race on my QR I averaged nearly 21 mph, and passed some pretty nice bikes along the way. Plus I don't have to worry too much if I need to run into the local convenience store to get a drink on a long ride. I always have looked at it this way - the thing that's going to gain you the most time on the course is hard training and conditioning; not fancy equipment. |
2008-09-30 8:14 AM in reply to: #1678438 |
17 | Subject: RE: low budget = bad bike..?I settled for bikesdirect!! This small town of mine has one bike shop at it absolutely sucks. They had maybe 5 road/tri bikes and when I asked for a fitting, the guy looked at me, didn't ask any questions and said I was 56cm..Then he asked what my height was and he stuck with his answer. I asked him that it is not that easy, but he swore that he was experienced and he knew exactly what my size was. Anyway, I used the online charts after measuring my inseam and determined I'm 58cm, which is the bike I bought. Needless to say, it fits perfect! Also with this small town, there were not too many used bikes that I can actually ride prior to purchasing, so I played it safe and bought a new bike on bikesdirect (Dawes Lightning 1500). It arrived in three days which I was amazed at, and so far so good, I love it. I'm new to biking so this bike will keep satisfied for my beginner training and in a year or so I'll move up. Thanks for all the advice everyone. |
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