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 2009-09-11 6:57 AM |
Member 65 |  Subject: how do you usually mount your bike for T1?I've watched the videos of someone running bear foot next to their bike with their shoes already clipped in. He made it look easy. So I decided to practice it yesterday - wound up landing right on my most sensitive spot. Ouch! So now I'm thinking I'm going to put the shoes on in T1 and get on the old fashioned slow way. What do you all do? |
| 2009-09-11 7:17 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Champion 5529   Nashville, TN | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Unless you can perfect the flying mount, just put your shoes on in t1. The last thing you want to do is swerve at the mount line and running the risk of crashing when everyone is trying to get on their bikes. Go watch a triathlon and see how many people screw it up. |
| 2009-09-11 7:23 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Veteran 172 | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? I raced 7 tri's this season and it was my second season of triathlon. I just started using a flying mount for my last two races this season. I practiced for an hour in my driveway the day before each race. It worked out for me in my races and saved a good amount of time. I've seen people that are really bad, and didn't want to be that guy. My advice is to practice for it just like the other parts of the race. I don't think new racers practice transition enough. It is the easiest place to shave time in the whole race if done properly (also easy to waste time for no reason). My .02. Good luck. |
| 2009-09-11 7:30 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
| Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Never unclip your shoes during practice and you'll get good at a flying mount and dismount  |
| 2009-09-11 7:33 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Member 190 Panama City Beach | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? I take the middle road. No way I'm I jumping onto that little seat! My shoes are in the pedals, I run barefoot out of T1. I stop on the left side of my bike, put my left foot on the top of my shoe and push off. With the momentum from both pushing down on the left pedal and pushing off, I can swing my right leg over the bike without swerving. I wait til I’m down the road to put my shoes on. |
| 2009-09-11 7:55 AM in reply to: #2400392 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? 9 times out of 10 I just put them on and go and clip in once I'm at the mount line. The vast majority of people who THINK they are faster by doing flying mounts are in reality only losing time on the bike that they made up in transition. Yes, there are a few who are really good at it, but most of those guys and gals are making a living at it ........ The exception for me is really long run-outs in transition. For those races I will keep the shoes in the pedals. |
| 2009-09-11 8:01 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Master 2802 Minnetonka, Minnesota | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? "The exception for me is really long run-outs in transition. For those races I will keep the shoes in the pedals." x2 for me. I put shoes on in T1 unless the run-out is really long. |
| 2009-09-11 8:18 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
| Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? I do a combination flying mount... I ll put my shoes on and run. Then, at the mount line, without breaking stride, I will put my right foot on the pedal and throw my leg over. I make sure the pedal is at 3 o'clock so it propels me when I get on. From there, cliping in is easy and I just get going. Its the fastest way I have found. I have some ROM limitations with my hip, so I could not do a flying mount if I wanted to... so this works for me... so far. |
| 2009-09-11 8:30 AM in reply to: #2400434 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back Gold member | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Daremo - 2009-09-11 7:55 AM 9 times out of 10 I just put them on and go and clip in once I'm at the mount line. The vast majority of people who THINK they are faster by doing flying mounts are in reality only losing time on the bike that they made up in transition. Yes, there are a few who are really good at it, but most of those guys and gals are making a living at it ........ The exception for me is really long run-outs in transition. For those races I will keep the shoes in the pedals. I don't make a living at it, but I know I'm really good at it. I pass people in both transitions - even those riding with running shoes and toe clips- and I pass people after the bike mount. I'm also pretty happy with my bike splits. Can't see where I would be losing time. One of the tricks is to get up to speed and out of traffic before you even attempt to get into your shoes. Doesn't take long and is a lot easier than trying to fight it when you first get on the bike. |
| 2009-09-11 9:03 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Flying mount came pretty naturally to me. I practice about 6 times before each race just to reassure myself, but I ABSOLUTELY HATE running in my bike shoes, even for 20 feet. Now, if I could just get the swim, bike and run down, I'd be pretty good at this triathlon thingy! Edited by pga_mike 2009-09-11 9:04 AM |
| 2009-09-11 9:20 AM in reply to: #2400364 |
Champion 11989 Philly 'burbs | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? swmr2tri - 2009-09-11 7:57 AM What do you all do? ADollar79 - 2009-09-11 8:17 AM Unless you can perfect the flying mount, just put your shoes on in t1. The last thing you want to do is swerve at the mount line and running the risk of crashing when everyone is trying to get on their bikes. Go watch a triathlon and see how many people screw it up. I have not perfected the flying mount, but since the OP asked what I do... I leave my shoes clipped in and after I cross the mount line and I am walking next to my bike I put my left foot on top of my left shoe and swing my right leg over as I mount the bike. (I use a rubber band on the heel loop of the left shoe to keep it in place). This propels me forward with enough velocity that I can coast for a second or two while getting my right foot on top on the right shoe. I then pedal to get up to speed and away from others and get my feet inside the shoes. My shoes are on my bike all the time. I live on a hill and start all my rides going uphill using this method. Except for the rubber bands. Don't use them day to day. |
| 2009-09-11 9:24 AM in reply to: #2400434 |
Veteran 306 Dallas | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Daremo - 2009-09-11 7:55 AM 9 times out of 10 I just put them on and go and clip in once I'm at the mount line. The vast majority of people who THINK they are faster by doing flying mounts are in reality only losing time on the bike that they made up in transition. Yes, there are a few who are really good at it, but most of those guys and gals are making a living at it ........ The exception for me is really long run-outs in transition. For those races I will keep the shoes in the pedals. X2 |
| 2009-09-11 9:33 AM in reply to: #2400434 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Daremo - 2009-09-11 7:55 AM 9 times out of 10 I just put them on and go and clip in once I'm at the mount line. I now do that all the time mainly because most races I do don't allow you to have the shoes on the pedals. |
| 2009-09-11 9:38 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Champion 4835 Eat Cheese or Die | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? I put my shoes on in T1 and do a cyclocross mount (think flying mount with shoes already on your feet) I also do a cyclocross dismount when I come back in to transition. It always scares the crap of the dismount people because you only slow down to a fast run speed before getting off. Dismount and mount http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqhoBKXvkZw It's almost impossible to get on this way if you have bottles on the back of the seat. Dismount http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2V-cW3lPQk&feature=related I don't pick up my bike after getting off. That's only good if there are barriers to jump. |
| 2009-09-11 10:02 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Expert 2555 Colorado Springs, Colorado | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? swmr2tri - 2009-09-11 5:57 AM I've watched the videos of someone running bear foot next to their bike with their shoes already clipped in. He made it look easy. So I decided to practice it yesterday - wound up landing right on my most sensitive spot. Ouch! So now I'm thinking I'm going to put the shoes on in T1 and get on the old fashioned slow way. What do you all do? So you did it once and it didn't go perfectly. How many things go perfectly the first time you try? The person in the video you watched has likely done it thousands of times and that's why it looks easy. Keep practicing, then practice some more. It really isn't that difficult. However, until you become proficient at it don't do it in a race. I mount and dismount with shoes clipped in on every ride. I don't do the flying mount all the time, maybe only 50%. I've been doing it for years. Did I mention you should practice? The people who get passed by people running in their shoes and mounting in the traditional way are the ones who don't practice. The people who are good at this skill are already a half mile down the road. |
| 2009-09-15 9:04 PM in reply to: #2400682 |
Champion 6503 NOVA - Ironic for an Endurance Athlete | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? JorgeM - 2009-09-11 9:33 AM Daremo - 2009-09-11 7:55 AM 9 times out of 10 I just put them on and go and clip in once I'm at the mount line. I now do that all the time mainly because most races I do don't allow you to have the shoes on the pedals. Really? I haven't come across that yet. |
| 2009-09-15 9:51 PM in reply to: #2400392 |
Veteran 174 Fort Worth. Texas | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? RichMan - 2009-09-11 7:33 AM I take the middle road. No way I'm I jumping onto that little seat! My shoes are in the pedals, I run barefoot out of T1. I stop on the left side of my bike, put my left foot on the top of my shoe and push off. With the momentum from both pushing down on the left pedal and pushing off, I can swing my right leg over the bike without swerving. I wait til I’m down the road to put my shoes on. x2 |
| 2009-09-15 10:06 PM in reply to: #2400698 |
Champion 19812 MA | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? graceful_dave - 2009-09-11 10:38 AM I put my shoes on in T1 and do a cyclocross mount (think flying mount with shoes already on your feet) I also do a cyclocross dismount when I come back in to transition. It always scares the crap of the dismount people because you only slow down to a fast run speed before getting off. Dismount and mount http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqhoBKXvkZw It's almost impossible to get on this way if you have bottles on the back of the seat. Dismount http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2V-cW3lPQk&feature=related I don't pick up my bike after getting off. That's only good if there are barriers to jump. I race cross so do what Dave does, put my shoes on in T1, run to exit and do a cross mount while everyone else stops puts leg over their top tube, clips one foot in and pushes off. I pass a lot of folks in the 10-15 feet where folks are mounting their bikes and I keep my speed from running while pushing off and jumping on my bike. I practiced a bunch shoes clipped in with rubber bands holding them in place, but I had a couple of times my shoe clipped on jammed on the ground while getting up to speed which isn't great for riding smoothly and it scared me. It isn't worth it to fall to save a few seconds. Taking my feet out, riding on top of my shoes, and doing cross dismount was smooth and didn't have issues while practicing. |
| 2009-09-15 10:21 PM in reply to: #2400372 |
Champion 7233 | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? craig0812 - 2009-09-11 6:23 AM I raced 7 tri's this season and it was my second season of triathlon. I just started using a flying mount for my last two races this season. I practiced for an hour in my driveway the day before each race. It worked out for me in my races and saved a good amount of time. I've seen people that are really bad, and didn't want to be that guy. My advice is to practice for it just like the other parts of the race. I don't think new racers practice transition enough. It is the easiest place to shave time in the whole race if done properly (also easy to waste time for no reason). My .02. Good luck. just wanted to point out, you really dont save a good amount off time. if you do it perfectly, you save maybe 10 sec, maybe a few more. thats assuming you do it perfectly. |
| 2009-09-15 10:31 PM in reply to: #2400342 |
Champion 7595 Columbia, South Carolina | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? I do the flying mount 'cause it's fun. (Yes, I practiced it before. No, I don't get in other people's way. Yes, I get up to speed before ever fiddling with my shoes. No, I don't think it saves me loads of time. I do it 'cause it's fun.) |
| 2009-09-16 7:39 AM in reply to: #2408836 |
Cycling Guru 15134 Fulton, MD | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? Experior - 2009-09-15 11:31 PM I do the flying mount 'cause it's fun. That's probably the only reason I've seen so far (other than really long run outs) to do it!  |
| 2009-09-16 8:03 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
Regular 100 State College, PA | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? clipped in and flying mount, and i can usually get the feet in pretty quick once i've got up to speed on the bike. i don't think i lose that much time doing this.. i feel like i would lose a lot more time trying to run in my shoes haha. |
| 2009-09-16 8:12 AM in reply to: #2400515 |
Champion 9600 Fountain Hills, AZ | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? the bear - 2009-09-11 8:30 AM Daremo - 2009-09-11 7:55 AM 9 times out of 10 I just put them on and go and clip in once I'm at the mount line. The vast majority of people who THINK they are faster by doing flying mounts are in reality only losing time on the bike that they made up in transition. Yes, there are a few who are really good at it, but most of those guys and gals are making a living at it ........ The exception for me is really long run-outs in transition. For those races I will keep the shoes in the pedals. I don't make a living at it, but I know I'm really good at it. I pass people in both transitions - even those riding with running shoes and toe clips- and I pass people after the bike mount. I'm also pretty happy with my bike splits. Can't see where I would be losing time. One of the tricks is to get up to speed and out of traffic before you even attempt to get into your shoes. Doesn't take long and is a lot easier than trying to fight it when you first get on the bike. x2. You can run so much faster out of your shoes, that I would only clip in if the mount line was literally less than 20 feet from my bike. Also, I find most people trying to clip in at the mount line are looking down and swerving all over the place trying to get there clips in. I don't jump on my bike, I stop and get my feet on top of the shoes and then get the hell out of Dodge. Once away and getting up to speed, it takes no time at all to get the shoes on and I loose very little momentum. The only time you stop pedaling is when you actually put your foot in, it's quick, but need to be practiced. |
| 2009-09-16 8:34 AM in reply to: #2400392 |
Master 2222 Columbus, OhioCoaching member | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? RichMan - 2009-09-11 8:33 AM I take the middle road. No way I'm I jumping onto that little seat! My shoes are in the pedals, I run barefoot out of T1. I stop on the left side of my bike, put my left foot on the top of my shoe and push off. With the momentum from both pushing down on the left pedal and pushing off, I can swing my right leg over the bike without swerving. I wait til I’m down the road to put my shoes on. This is what I do also. I don't like running in Look cleats because they're so slippery, so I like leaving my shoes clipped in, even in training. They never leave my bike except for cleanings. However, the running jump thing appears to be beyond my ability level. I know myself, and I know I'd get scared in that crucial split second and slip or screw up or something. That said, I raced for about 4 years running in cleats before I switched to doing it this way. There are good videos on here showing how to do it. |
| 2009-09-16 9:59 AM in reply to: #2400342 |
| Member 65 | Subject: RE: how do you usually mount your bike for T1? For my race last weekend I put my shoes on in T1 & ran out (which was long since my rack spot was at the furthest end of the transition area). WHen I got to the mounting spit I clipped my left foot in with the pedal at 3:00, pushed off and swung my leg over, clicked in easily and started pedaling right away. I think it worked well for me. The start of the bike was a fairly steep hill and I think it would have been extra difficult to do a flying mount on this grade, even with practice. I have no diffficulty running quickly in my Shimano spd shoes, I'm really happy with them. I may try this mount with the shoes clipped in next year. We'll see, I like the rubber band trick, too. |
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