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2008-09-28 12:21 PM

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Subject: How to learn how to exhale under water?

Now imagine my surprise when I learned you were supposed to exhale under water!  Oh my, I tried today and its hard.  Although I did try humming and made it a little easier but the bubbles are a bit annoying and I will actually get water in my nose/mouth easier when I try to exhale under water. 

 So how do you learn this technique?

 Also I decided to time myself today and I'm pitifully slow.  For 2 lengths, 50m, it took me 1 min 20 secs.  I know speed will come in time and I do need to take my swimming lessons.  I also just bought the total immersion book to hopefully learn some technique on my own.



2008-09-28 12:41 PM
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Breathe out through your nose.

Humming still helps.
2008-09-28 1:12 PM
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I am definitely a novice swimmer, but I have experienced this.  It took me a while to get this down, but when you do it is a huge advantage.  Spend time concentrating only on slowly exhaling through your mouth and nose at the same time.  If you push the air out too fast you risk running out, panicing and rushing which always seemed to happen to me. 

One question, how frequently do you breath?

2008-09-28 2:19 PM
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just try putting your head in the water, no swimming at first. 

1.  Take a deep breath
2.  Put face in water
3.  Slowly blow out bubbles
4.  Face up
Repeat. 

Developing a rhythm helps a lot.  Try counting to 4 when exhaling.

When youa re comfortable with face in water, add in some movement - breaststroke or whatever, to get use to breathing out in the water while moving.  Do it slowly. 

how frequently do you breathe - depends on how comfortable you are.  I range from breathing every 10 strokes to every 2.  Usually the earlier part of the workout I breathe less frequently. 



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2008-09-28 9:05 PM
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I breathe (above water) every other stroke.   I'm very novice and when I tried breathing from 2 sides, I found that I would get too flustered so I just generally pick a side and stick to it for breathing.  

I was practicing exhaling with a kick board to get used to it without actually having to concentrate on swimming.  When I was exhaling under water, I was just exhaling, inhaling above water, etc pretty continuously. 

2008-09-29 6:12 AM
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linanil - 2008-09-28 10:05 PM

I breathe (above water) every other stroke.

Do you sometimes breathe below water?  Now that would be quite an advantage!



2008-09-29 7:47 AM
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well, breathing = inhale AND exhale. 

You really don't ahve much time with face above water to complete the inhale-exhale cycle, or you would lose balance. 

So, inhale with face above water, exhale with face under water by blowing bubbles.  When most air is expelled, turn your face up again to inhale.  How long and how often depends on your level of comfort. 

2008-09-29 7:55 AM
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Breathing underwater may seem strange right now, but once you get the hang of it it will feel so natural.  My suggestion - take your breath when your head is above water, then once your face is in the water slowly exhale (I breathe out my mouth - just my preference).  Continue to breathe out until it is time to take your next breath.  This may feel strange now, but exhaling underwater helps me calm down when I get anxious while swimming. 

2008-09-29 8:22 AM
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Havin'Fun - 2008-09-29 7:55 AM

Breathing underwater may seem strange right now, but once you get the hang of it it will feel so natural. My suggestion - take your breath when your head is above water, then once your face is in the water slowly exhale (I breathe out my mouth - just my preference). Continue to breathe out until it is time to take your next breath. This may feel strange now, but exhaling underwater helps me calm down when I get anxious while swimming.



I do just the opposite under water, I hold my breath and breathe out forcefully before surfacing. If I do it the other way then I don't get all the CO2 out of my lungs and over the next 10-15 minutes my breaths get shallower. Breathing out forcefully solved this issue for me. Not everyone has that issue though.
2008-09-29 8:23 AM
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Try side kicking... take one hand off your kick board and place it on/near your hip.  Have your shoulders vertical in the water, head down, exhale underwater and turn your head to the side your arm is at your hip when you need to inhale.  Switch which arm is forward every length if you can, you will be more comfortable on one side over the other, just takes practice.

This will also improve your body roll/balance, which will give you more time to inhale and should decrease your panic.  If you have fins, start doing this with fins, take them off as your progress and remove the kickboard as you improve as well, good luck!

2008-09-29 8:27 AM
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I've never considered the option of not exhaling while underwater.  I've just assumed everyone did this.  Huh...learn something new every day I guess.


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2008-09-29 9:11 AM
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AcesFull - 2008-09-29 9:35 AM I really wish I could learn to INHALE under water.  Not having to turn my head to breathe would make me WAY faster. 

 Maybe grow some gills?

 

Thanks guys for the advice.  Tomorrow is swim day again and I'll be practicing!

2008-09-29 9:21 AM
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I'm a new swimmer too. I can totally relate to what you are going through. It will come with practice. Hang in there.

What's been helping me lately is fully exhale just as I am about to turn my head for my next breath. Trying to completely empty my lungs just before it's time for another breath. That way I don't have to think about exhaling most of the time.

Stick with it. Becuase breathing is a basic survival skill your body will eventually figure it out. You just have to give yourself time. We're in the same situation. I promise, it is getting easier for me. So it will for you too.

Hang in there.
2008-09-29 9:27 AM
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The key to getting a good breath in is making sure to exhale fully.  I would think it would be extremely hard to get a strong solid exhale and then intake a breath all in the same portion of the stroke.

It would be my feeling that you would not be getting nearly enough oxygen in and would tire out very quickly.  Not to mention how it would screw up your stroke!

I have always (and find it very natural to) exhaled out of my nose.

2008-09-29 10:43 AM
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AcesFull - 2008-09-29 7:35 AM

I really wish I could learn to INHALE under water.  Not having to turn my head to breathe would make me WAY faster. 


oh you CAN inhale underwater. probably once or twice... doubt it would make you any faster though.

i breathe out a bit on every pull. and i inhale every three pulls so that I am alternating sides. i kind of think/hum "pull... two.. three..." to keep my rhythm while steadily exhaling.


2008-09-29 11:45 AM
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Just try putting your head in the water, no swimming at first. 

1.  Take a deep breath
2.  Put face in water
3.  Slowly blow out bubbles
4.  Face up
Repeat. 

Developing a rhythm helps a lot.  Try counting to 4 when exhaling.

x2

I would add that, once it starts to feel better while you're standing still, add in some arm movements to get the feel of when you want to take a breath.  For me (when I followed the above plan), I felt comfortable breathing every four strokes.  Now that I've practiced, I can breathe every four or three strokes.

Don't worry about how you look when you practice this, either.  The lifeguards and such know exactly what you're doing, as they've done this too!!

-Joel

2008-09-29 11:48 AM
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TXGreyhoundGuy - 2008-09-29 12:45 PM

Don't worry about how you look when you practice this, either.  The lifeguards and such know exactly what you're doing, as they've done this too!!

-Joel

 You know what was funny is that when I was practicing humming, I was humming the tune of the wicked witches army in the Wizard of Oz.   I was then wondering if anyone could hear me under water and wonder what the hell I was doing.

2008-09-29 12:45 PM
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I hear you on breathing out forcefully, I just like the continuous breathing.  Seems to help keep me calm    But whatever works for you is the way to go 
2008-09-29 1:15 PM
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TXGreyhoundGuy - 2008-09-29 12:45 PM
Just try putting your head in the water, no swimming at first.

1. Take a deep breath
2. Put face in water
3. Slowly blow out bubbles
4. Face up
Repeat.

Developing a rhythm helps a lot. Try counting to 4 when exhaling.

x2

I would add that, once it starts to feel better while you're standing still, add in some arm movements to get the feel of when you want to take a breath. For me (when I followed the above plan), I felt comfortable breathing every four strokes. Now that I've practiced, I can breathe every four or three strokes.

Don't worry about how you look when you practice this, either. The lifeguards and such know exactly what you're doing, as they've done this too!!

-Joel

Another tip - when I learned to swim we started with those steps above. Then we "bobbed" to practice.  Basically we would stand in the shallow end and go underwater to exhale and pop up to breathe.  When we came up, we didn't stay up long, just got the breath and went back down.  We did it before every swim lesson to get the pattern of inhale/exhale before we started.  Sometimes when i'm having a weird day in the pool, i'll do a few of these and it helps me get back the right way to breathe.  You can also do them in the deep end by holding on to the side of the pool.  You hold on or do it in the shallow end so that the whole focus is on the breathing pattern and you aren't worrying about treading or the stroke or any of that stuff. 

2008-09-29 2:31 PM
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SSMinnow - 2008-09-28 1:12 PM

I am definitely a novice swimmer, but I have experienced this.  It took me a while to get this down, but when you do it is a huge advantage.  Spend time concentrating only on slowly exhaling through your mouth and nose at the same time.  If you push the air out too fast you risk running out, panicing and rushing which always seemed to happen to me. 

One question, how frequently do you breath?

How can you breath out of your mouth and nose at the same time.   I can't do it.  (Maybe this is why my swimming sucks?)  Or do you mean breath out of your mouth/nose and then your nose/mouth?



2008-09-29 2:36 PM
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TeddieMao - 2008-09-29 3:31 PM
SSMinnow - 2008-09-28 1:12 PM

I am definitely a novice swimmer, but I have experienced this.  It took me a while to get this down, but when you do it is a huge advantage.  Spend time concentrating only on slowly exhaling through your mouth and nose at the same time.  If you push the air out too fast you risk running out, panicing and rushing which always seemed to happen to me. 

One question, how frequently do you breath?

How can you breath out of your mouth and nose at the same time.   I can't do it.  (Maybe this is why my swimming sucks?)  Or do you mean breath out of your mouth/nose and then your nose/mouth?

When you are exhaling with your mouth opened, you are breathing out from both. 

2008-09-29 3:05 PM
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I can totally relate.  I knew that you were supposed to exhale under water, I just couldn't do it.  I litterally could not put my face in the water and make any air come out.  Instead I held my breath, but then you run into that whole having to exhale and inhale with head out of the water, and my body would try to go vertical.  I took some swimming lessons, and I am doing a lot better, particularly with breast stroke, but the front crawl is still so hard.  My form falls to pieces after about 50 meters.  This is something that I am just going to have to really focus on, and try to get.  

You will get it though.  I can tell that with practice it already feels a bit more natural.  I also have to warm up by doing about 20-30 bobs in the shallow end to get the breathing started.  For whatever reason I can't just get in the water and start exhaling.  Maybe that will come.

jami dotten  

2008-09-29 4:32 PM
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Number one priority is learning to breathe while swimming. Nothing else really matters until you get this under control. My advice is go to the pool to practice breathing not swimming. Squat down in the shallow end, put your face in the water and blow bubbles gently from your nose AND mouth, rotate your head to the left or right (it doesn't matter right now) take a gentle breath and repeat. You should be able to do this easily for 10-15 minutes. You can practice this in a spa or even a large bowl. At all times while swimming, you must be breathing in or breathing out. You don't need to empty your lungs on every breath, just a slow, controlled exhale. Same with breathing in, just take an easy breath, don't gasp.
2008-09-29 7:32 PM
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Good thread. Good replies. I can't wait to try this tomorrow morning. Maybe that's why I can't do more than a length at a time and end up panting to catch my breath. It is getting better but these posts make me suspect my timing might be off. I'll work on it.

Thanks!
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