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2009-09-17 4:57 PM

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I posted this in the main forum as well.  Sorry for double post, but I realize not everyone is active in both forums. 

So, as a newbie, I constantly hear people saying that "I kept it in zone 2on the run today" etc etc. i have a HR monitor, but i never use it, because the information I get from it means nothing to me right now.

I am sure these questions are far to in depth to post here, but I am going to anyways.  

First how do you determine what your HR zones are (i.e. where does zone 2 stop and zone 3 start) since I assume they are different for everyone and likely sport specific. 

Second, once you determine what the HR zones are ... what do you do with this?  What are the proper zones for proper training goals (for intervals, speed work, long slow, etc.). 

Any help explaining this would be great.  Thanks


2009-09-17 6:07 PM
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Tons of resources, testing protocols and training methods using HR zones. I would suggest reading up on them. One of the better books I have read is "Total Heart Rate Training" by Joe Friel. It addresses multisport training. There are also more specific methods and zones for specific sports such as Carmichael's TrainRight program geared towards cyclists. I know this is rather vague and general but HR training is a deep subject, luckily its is very easy to incorporate into your training program.

2009-09-18 9:12 AM
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Basically, the idea is to warm up at a good solid pace for 10 minutes, then go as hard as you can for twenty minutes at a sustained pace on the bike or running. You need to start your HR (or hit lap) when you begin the 20 minutes. Your average HR for the twenty minutes is the bottom of Zone 5a I believe. With that number, you can extrapolate the rest of your zones. Here is one of many resources.

http://www.active.com/images/activeTrainer/957Gale_Training_Intensi...
2009-09-18 9:54 AM
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From Mike Ricci, D3 coach and BT coach:

How many of you triathletes out there are using this formula? Put up your hand and admit it - I can't see you through cyber space :-)

If I read one more message that says the athlete is using this formula, I am going off the DEEP END! People, this is not correct. It may work, but chances are very slim it will work for you. Of course the 15 people that it works for will post that it does work - but my point is that for the MAJORITY, this formula of 220-AGE = MAX Heart Rate - DOES NOT WORK!

Your best bet is to get some lab testing done to find out your Lactate Threshold. If you don't have access to a lab for whatever reason (location or $) don't fret. We have 'field' tests that you can do and the only thing you need is you, your Heart Rate Monitor and some 3 D's: Desire, Determination, and Discipline.

Field test for bike and run:
Determining Bike Training Zones

In biking we want to know our heart rate training zones. To make this as easy as possible, we will use a standard 30 minute TT. From this TT we will be able to determine the correct training zones. I do advocate doing both an inside and outside LT tests.

Bike test protocol for inside testing:

The warm-up is 15 minutes of cycling, moving through the different gears, always keeping the cadence above 90 RPMS. Do a few short sprints to get your heart rate up and ready for the test!

You should start out in a gear that you can maintain 90 RPMS in. Make sure you remember what gear you started in.

The 30 minute TT begins.
At 10 minutes into the test, hit the 'Lap' button on your heart rate monitor, to get the average heart rate over the final 20 minutes of the test.
The average for the final 20 minutes is your Lactate Threshold or LT.
You should finish knowing you gave it everything you had.
15 minutes easy cool down.

Example:
Johnny has an average of 156 heart rate for his 30 minute bike TT. If I calculate Johnny's zones using his LT and the Training Bible zones, this is what I come up with:
Zone 1 - 102-125
Zone 2 - 136-139
Zone 3 - 140-145
Zone 4 - 146- 155
Zone 5a - 156-159
Zone 5b - 160-164
Zone 5c - 165-170



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Determining Run Training Zones

In running we want to know our heart rate training zones as well. To make this as easy as possible, we will use a standard 30 minute TT. From this TT we will be able to determine the correct training zones. This is best if done on a flat uninterrupted path or trail.

Run test protocol:

After a 15 minute warm-up of easy running, finish with a few quick 20 seconds bursts to get your heart rate in the correct training zone.

The 30 minute TT begins.
At 10 minutes into the test, hit the 'Lap' button on your heart rate monitor, to get the average heart rate over the final 20 minutes of the test.
The average for the final 20 minutes is your Lactate Threshold or LT.
You should finish knowing you gave it everything you had.
15 minutes easy cool down.

Example:
Johnny has an average of 156 heart rate for his 30 minute run TT. If I calculate Johnny's zones using his LT and the Training Bible zones, this is what I come up with:
Zone 1 - 102-125
Zone 2 - 136-139
Zone 3 - 140-145
Zone 4 - 146- 155
Zone 5a - 156-159
Zone 5b - 160-164
Zone 5c - 165-170

IF you want to compare my method of choice to other methods you can read this:
http://www.d3multisport.com/articles/heartrate.html

IF you want to get educated on what the zones mean: http://www.d3multisport.com/articles/beinginthezone.html

If you have any questions, I would be happy to answer them.

Train Smart, Train Right, and get fitter and faster. Isn't that the point?

Peace,
Mike




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