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2013-06-14 4:38 AM

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Went to the midnight show with the wife. The place was about 3/4 full mostly 30 year olds and up.
I loved the special effects and the story was well done.
I have seen all of the movie iterations (Including IV the Quest for Peace) over the years, read the comic books for a while a a kid and was glued to the TV for the B/W originals.
I am not sure if I liked these new plot deviations.
I did like making Lois the hard nose reporter and Laurence Fishburne was great as Perry White.
I did not like the way they broke the Cardinal Rule of Superman at the end (I will leave it up to others to fill in the blanks on that)

What say you all?


2013-06-16 2:03 AM
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Originally posted by verga Went to the midnight show with the wife. The place was about 3/4 full mostly 30 year olds and up. I loved the special effects and the story was well done. I have seen all of the movie iterations (Including IV the Quest for Peace) over the years, read the comic books for a while a a kid and was glued to the TV for the B/W originals. I am not sure if I liked these new plot deviations. I did like making Lois the hard nose reporter and Laurence Fishburne was great as Perry White. I did not like the way they broke the Cardinal Rule of Superman at the end (I will leave it up to others to fill in the blanks on that) What say you all?

I thought they dragged out most of the fight scenes excessively.

And of course I thought their military stuff bordered on the ridiculous (I mean, I'm in the AF....it embarrassed me at times).

Good story though.  I didn't realize this was a complete "just set up the story" movie.  Every other superman movie just gives the 5-15' background and then goes into a main plot.

Thought it was weird though that in other movies Superman was a "mystery man" to everyone but Lois, right?  Now they all know he's an alien and exactly where he's from.  Is that just a changing of the times?  Just being realistic about how Americans would view him today?  As an alien?

2013-06-16 10:35 AM
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Originally posted by verga Went to the midnight show with the wife. The place was about 3/4 full mostly 30 year olds and up. I loved the special effects and the story was well done. I have seen all of the movie iterations (Including IV the Quest for Peace) over the years, read the comic books for a while a a kid and was glued to the TV for the B/W originals. I am not sure if I liked these new plot deviations. I did like making Lois the hard nose reporter and Laurence Fishburne was great as Perry White. I did not like the way they broke the Cardinal Rule of Superman at the end (I will leave it up to others to fill in the blanks on that) What say you all?

I thought they dragged out most of the fight scenes excessively.

And of course I thought their military stuff bordered on the ridiculous (I mean, I'm in the AF....it embarrassed me at times).

Good story though.  I didn't realize this was a complete "just set up the story" movie.  Every other superman movie just gives the 5-15' background and then goes into a main plot.

Thought it was weird though that in other movies Superman was a "mystery man" to everyone but Lois, right?  Now they all know he's an alien and exactly where he's from.  Is that just a changing of the times?  Just being realistic about how Americans would view him today?  As an alien?


I went to several of the 'Easter Egg" sites after the movie, and apparently DC has done this massive overhaul with the "New 52" where they have radically changed some of the characters and/or their origins and one of them said that this was going to be the new one for him.
There are also rumors that if is makes xxx million they will fast track a "Man of Steel II" and if it makes so much over that they are going to do a "Justice League" movie.
Supposedly some of the hints were that when he went into the Alien craft the opened sleeping chamber had been occupied by his cousin Kara that becomes Supergirl. There were also the "LexCorp" building and trucks as well as the The Wayne satellite and building. The Captain that was driving the General at the end of the movie was named Farris C. Carol /Caroline Farris later becomes the love interest of Hal Jordan (Green Lantern) and later becomes the Super heroine Star Sapphire.
In the 1950's Television version he is referred to as a 'Strange visitor from another planet"
So they might just be combining the two iterations.
2013-06-17 6:58 AM
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I have no idea how they could let the movie go out with as many plot holes as they did...

I was excited when I saw the names attached to the reboot, but in the end I felt like instead of making a truly epic story, they devolved into the old "Superman good, Zod bad" let's have 30 fight scenes that have no real point...

Some things that struck me as really loose...

- everyone is genetically set up from birth to best serve Krypton... this means it's VERY out of character for a.) Zod to stage a coup. b.) El (the leading scientist) to go for natural birth and c.) for the council to not believe their head scientist when he says the world is ending. Once Zod learns that Superman is the "future" of the race, it makes little sense for him to try destroying him.

- The machine that destroys the world seems pretty pointless... all the Kryptonians can adjust to earths atmosphere... in fact it makes them stronger... so why change a good thing?

- Good guy trap #1 broken... let's send the bad guys into space (off our dying planet) with the technology available to them to travel space with a little work (albeit all of them being soldiers and not scientists...)

- Bad guy trap #1 broken... superman incapacitated... let's strap him on a table instead of just killing him.

- Father trap #1 broken... don't show people you can save me from this tornado I needlessly ran into. Even though all the people (what, like 3 families?) in town already know you're some super strong freak. I'm OUT! See you OZ!

- The family at the end of the movie deserved to die. "Hey, lets move out of the way of these death beams" could have saved a lot of grief.

- Even though it required Superman to have years absorbing the suns rays to become *super* strong, Zod gains the power almost immediately (he is also super strong immediately... which seems unlikely after Jor El makes a big deal about how strong Supes is) He also has no trouble focusing his new found power immediately (I'll make a fist and bammo! I'm awesome) nor does he have any trouble flying although 10 minutes earlier he has to jump up a building.

- An unwillingness to let some people die after most certainly killing THOUSANDS of innocents in the city (which had to just be declared a total loss...right? I mean they destroyed the sh*t out of the city) seemed a bit melodramatic.

- Superman = Jesus... force feed it to us.

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I liked it a lot.  I thought the fight scenes were great.  I was wanting more of an action Superman than the usual "save people from natural disasters while trying to foil the plans of a rich bald guy" plot.  

I'm sure people that don't like long action scenes hated the Superman vs Zod fight, but I thought it was one of the best fights in a superhero movie ever.

This movie made Ironman 3 look like a joke.  I'm already ready for the sequel.



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