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2009-09-16 2:03 PM

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OK I have a triahtlon coming up this saturday and its my last one for the season. I do well in the swimming part and push myself and do avrg on the bike and suck at the run but have improved alot.
Question: SHould i take it easy on the swim(swim at comfortable pace) and do an ok ride and  go for it on the run.  Where should I focus more on the day . When I look at the results the only reason I do better  than some is because I have a great swim time so I am confused on what to do.


2009-09-16 2:10 PM
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Ask yourself this:  If you saved a ton of energy for the run, would you improve your time and/or place much?  If so, save plenty of steam for the run, if not, (my guess), go have a great swim, but don't kill yourself, then push the bike, but again, don't kill yourself, and then HTFU and struggle through the run as best you can.  Also, remember that the easiest way to save overall time is to have great transitions - that takes very little energy!

Just my two cents.  Good luck, and remember to have fun!

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2009-09-16 2:18 PM
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ejshowers - 2009-09-16 2:10 PM Ask yourself this:  If you saved a ton of energy for the run, would you improve your time and/or place much?  If so, save plenty of steam for the run, if not, (my guess), go have a great swim, but don't kill yourself, then push the bike, but again, don't kill yourself, and then HTFU and struggle through the run as best you can.  Also, remember that the easiest way to save overall time is to have great transitions - that takes very little energy!

Just my two cents.  Good luck, and remember to have fun!



When I run a normal 5K race I do 26 to27min but  in a triathlon i run out of steam and do 30mins and thats where I go from top 10 finish to 11 ot 12th
2009-09-16 2:26 PM
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ejshowers - 2009-09-16 2:10 PM Ask yourself this:  If you saved a ton of energy for the run, would you improve your time and/or place much?  If so, save plenty of steam for the run, if not, (my guess), go have a great swim, but don't kill yourself, then push the bike, but again, don't kill yourself, and then HTFU and struggle through the run as best you can.  Also, remember that the easiest way to save overall time is to have great transitions - that takes very little energy!

Just my two cents.  Good luck, and remember to have fun!



When I run a normal 5K race I do 26 to27min but  in a triathlon i run out of steam and do 30mins and thats where I go from top 10 finish to 11 ot 12th

Pace yourself the last few miles of the bike to recoup (sp?) for the run.  Get the legs ready and its just liek a normal 5k.  HTFU and go hard!  You will be mad at yourself if you take it easy.

2009-09-16 2:40 PM
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Livestrong191 - 2009-09-16 3:18 PM
ejshowers - 2009-09-16 2:10 PM Ask yourself this:  If you saved a ton of energy for the run, would you improve your time and/or place much?  If so, save plenty of steam for the run, if not, (my guess), go have a great swim, but don't kill yourself, then push the bike, but again, don't kill yourself, and then HTFU and struggle through the run as best you can.  Also, remember that the easiest way to save overall time is to have great transitions - that takes very little energy!

Just my two cents.  Good luck, and remember to have fun!



When I run a normal 5K race I do 26 to27min but  in a triathlon i run out of steam and do 30mins and thats where I go from top 10 finish to 11 ot 12th

Pace yourself the last few miles of the bike to recoup (sp?) for the run.  Get the legs ready and its just liek a normal 5k.  HTFU and go hard!  You will be mad at yourself if you take it easy.



x2  My last race is this Sat too. I plan on killing the swim, going hard on the bike, and just try to hang on for the run. I went way too easy on the swim in my Half I did and I regret it.  It's your last race, have fun and HTFU.  It'll be a long winter if you finish and think "Man I coulda done the swim so much faster!" That's my advice, but I may be in for a long 5k this weekendSmile
2009-09-16 2:59 PM
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With no logs to see what kind of training you're doing it's difficult to give advice. Looking at your race reports indicates your swimming is not quite as great as you've let on, while your run has improved in every race. In a sprint race your training should be such that it allows you to go almost all out in every event. In the sprints I've done I've never experienced an instance where if I held back in one area I would gain more in another. If you go a minute slower in the swim and a minute slower on the bike, you are unlikely to go two minutes faster on the run, so the net result will be even slower than if you had pushed all the way through. Pacing becomes an issue in longer races, but in a sprint you just go as hard as you've trained for all the way through. If the run off the bike is shaky, try shortening your stride and increasing the cadence until your legs get loosened up and that may help your speed.


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Donskiman - 2009-09-16 2:59 PM With no logs to see what kind of training you're doing it's difficult to give advice. Looking at your race reports indicates your swimming is not quite as great as you've let on, while your run has improved in every race. In a sprint race your training should be such that it allows you to go almost all out in every event. In the sprints I've done I've never experienced an instance where if I held back in one area I would gain more in another. If you go a minute slower in the swim and a minute slower on the bike, you are unlikely to go two minutes faster on the run, so the net result will be even slower than if you had pushed all the way through. Pacing becomes an issue in longer races, but in a sprint you just go as hard as you've trained for all the way through. If the run off the bike is shaky, try shortening your stride and increasing the cadence until your legs get loosened up and that may help your speed.



Thanks for  the advice. I think shortening my stride will help to get me back into running mode. Yes you right my swimming is not super fast and working on it but thats where I put alot of time or should I say it puts in in the top 10 in my group at the start if the race
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