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2008-10-10 2:36 PM

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Subject: How do I deal with this?

Two weeks ago I got a good sized blister on the arch of my right foot. I've been wearing custom orthotics since April and in the beginning they gave me little blisters but since getting them adjusted and wearing wright running socks they've never given me a problem. Two weeks ago I got this good sized blister on the arch of my right foot. The only thing I've changed is that I added the elastic shoe laces with the zip thing on them for races and easy of use. I've tried to make sure they're not too tight or too loose.

 

Anyways, I covered in in band aids and mole skin last night and went out for what was planned to be an 8 mile run. After about 2 miles I had to stop as it felt like somebody was pushing a hot poker through the bottom of my foot. I have an OLY planned for the 26th and while I'm not likely to make much progress on my run before now and then, I'd like to keep training. What is the best way to deal with this so I can keep running without making it worse?



2008-10-10 2:38 PM
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I hope you find the answer and I'd be interested in hearing about what works.

The only way I've dealt with blisters in the exact same place is to stop running. I've never tried orthotics, but I've been to the podiatrist, tried different shoes, different socks, everything else and no dice.

Good luck.

2008-10-10 2:42 PM
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I have custom orthodics and get similar blisters every time I get new shoes.  HTFU.  Crappy advice I know, but the only alternative is not running.  I cover them (with second skin) when I run.  But if I'm not running, I make sure its exposed to the air.  Usually doesn't hurt after about a week.
2008-10-10 2:43 PM
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can you take out the orthotic, and then remove the innersole of the shoe.  put the orthotic in and then the innersole back in.  It might remove the pinch/rub point.  but get it healed first!!!  
2008-10-10 2:44 PM
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My only concern with HTFU is that they eventually get to the point where they're bleeding and that would keep me from performing well if at all in my OLY.
2008-10-10 2:46 PM
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Mirg - 2008-10-10 3:44 PM My only concern with HTFU is that they eventually get to the point where they're bleeding and that would keep me from performing well if at all in my OLY.

 Hmm, mine have never once bled.  But on mine I usually have a thick layer dead skin over the blister, which you either peeled off or don't have...

ETA:  Heh, just noticed the HFTU in you signature...  Maybe time to try an elliptical machine?



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2008-10-10 2:47 PM
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bootygirl - 2008-10-10 12:43 PM can you take out the orthotic, and then remove the innersole of the shoe. put the orthotic in and then the innersole back in. It might remove the pinch/rub point. but get it healed first!!!

 

Yeah, IDK?

 

I would think that would have an impact on the bio-mechanical function of the orthotic but I'm no Dr. 

 

I just don't know what all of a sudden cause it to happen. Maybe increased millage?  

2008-10-10 2:48 PM
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steveseer - 2008-10-10 12:46 PM

Mirg - 2008-10-10 3:44 PM My only concern with HTFU is that they eventually get to the point where they're bleeding and that would keep me from performing well if at all in my OLY.

Hmm, mine have never once bled. But on mine I usually have a thick layer dead skin over the blister, which you either peeled off or don't have...

 

It fell off and there is another layer that is starting to peel off. 

2008-10-10 2:49 PM
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2008-10-10 2:50 PM
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I started getting blisters on my left foot in the same place with one of my pairs of shoes.  I tried what you tried plus duct tape and some other remedies I read.  I have switched socks to running socks (I typically wear very thin socks) and as of this week, the problem seems to be fixed.

 

2008-10-10 2:52 PM
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I guess I'll just go with the mole skin and warp that in duct tape so that it doesn't move around. Tomorrow I'll try the 8 miler again.


2008-10-10 2:57 PM
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I got a blister in the same exact spot on my foot. I cut a piece of moleskin that was 1.5x bigger than the blister and applied it directly onto the blister; then I used athletic tape and taped around the edge of the moleskin to the foot.

This method worked perfectly for me, BUT! I had to make sure that I was walking around for a bit (10-15 mins) to let the tape and moleskin become more flexible and to adhere properly to my skin. At first I would just apply and run, and the inflexibility of the moleskin and tape coupled with foot sweat caused the moleskin and tape to come right off of my foot, like applying tape to a wet surface, it just won't stick. So give it some time to "glue" to your foot, and it should stay on there for quite awhile without unsticking.
2008-10-10 7:18 PM
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To get it to heal I highly suggest Dr. Ott's magic blister cure of bacitracin ointment and athletic tape.  Its messy but it will soften the king which looks a little on the dry side and let the area heal.  Try to keepit on as much as possible.  If its too messy for work try J&J blister pads.  They also work really well and may be do able for the race. 
2008-10-10 7:50 PM
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I had blisters in the exact same spot a few years ago. Turns out it was because I had tightened my laces for a timed 300 yard sprint and never loosened them before running again. A few days of feeling like I was running on broken glass went away after I loosened the laces back up.

Until it healed, I put vaseline on the spot and covered it with a large band-aid. The band-aid kept it lubricated so there was no chafing.

After it heals, you may want to try body glide on your arches for any long runs.
2008-10-10 8:47 PM
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I agree with the post to put the moleskin directly on the blister. I wear gel pads on my feet since I have issues with sesmoids.  Last week I got a large blister in the same spot as yours.  Wore moleskin for a few days and it's fine now.
2008-10-12 9:26 AM
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As a former (1980) US Army Combat Medic, I have seen many blisters similar to yours caused by a variety of reasons and conditions. 

 

Based on your picture, it appears that this has been going on for some time. Your feet look pretty well used.  However you have a few callused areas on your heel, and both sides of the ball of your foot, that you should consider dressing up with sand paper or a callus tool (sand paper glued to a plastic spoon type device).

 

I see no signs of damage via immersion syndrome, (do to excessive moisture).  You must be getting your shoes off and dried out right away after each run.  That is really important, good job.

 

Anyway, the following is what I would do in the matter of importance.

 

#1) Let your blister heal at least to the point where the scaling and flaking have disappeared.  Pay particular attention to the area nearest your heal where the flaking begins, as it appears to be very close to becoming an open wound.

 

#2) While your blister is healing, speak to the doctor, trainer or whomever provided or fit you with the orthotic devices.  A modification may be in order to reduce or resolve this problem.  It will come down to fitment and equal pressure on the load and friction bearing surfaces of your foot in order to eliminate this problem.  If this does not work, fire the doctor, toss the orthotics and buy new shoes that fit well enough to eliminated the need for orthotic.

 

#3) Do not apply adhesive type products (moleskin, tape, ect..) directly over a blister that is in the current sate of healing that yours is.  It is possible that while exercising or when removing these products, the tape will cause the closed wound to become an open wound.  An open wound saturated in sweat, naturally occurring foot bacteria and super sticky adhesive is a bad combination.

 

#4) Do use adhesive type products (moleskin, tape, ect..) in emergency situations.  For instance, during a race.  Or if you happened to be fighting a war and the bad guys are a few clicks away.

 

#5) Never pop a blister with a needle or pocket knife as you are turning a closed wound into an open wound.

 

In summary:

 

A: Let it heal.

B: Fix or find orthotics and or shoes that do not cause or contribute to this problem.

C: Do not try to patch a shoe fitment problem with tape unless it is an emergency situation.

E: Never turn a closed wound into an open wound.

 

Good luck

 

 

 

Mark Nicholson

Combat Medic

US Army

1/94th FA MLRS

Nuernberg West Germany

1980



2008-10-12 9:31 AM
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I would say you should definitely invest in some nice running socks.  I used to get blisters on my long runs running in cotton socks, then I invested in some running-specific pairs from Nike and Aasics and that made it A LOT more comfortable.  When race day comes I go no-socks but that's where the duct tape comes into play =).....good luck!
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As a former (1980) US Army Combat Medic, I have seen many blisters similar to yours caused by a variety of reasons and conditions.

Based on your picture, it appears that this has been going on for some time. Your feet look pretty well used. However you have a few callused areas on your heel, and both sides of the ball of your foot, that you should consider dressing up with sand paper or a callus tool (sand paper glued to a plastic spoon type device).

I see no signs of damage via immersion syndrome, (do to excessive moisture). You must be getting your shoes off and dried out right away after each run. That is really important, good job.

Anyway, the following is what I would do in the matter of importance.

#1) Let your blister heal at least to the point where the scaling and flaking have disappeared. Pay particular attention to the area nearest your heal where the flaking begins, as it appears to be very close to becoming an open wound.

#2) While your blister is healing, speak to the doctor, trainer or whomever provided or fit you with the orthotic devices. A modification may be in order to reduce or resolve this problem. It will come down to fitment and equal pressure on the load and friction bearing surfaces of your foot in order to eliminate this problem. If this does not work, fire the doctor, toss the orthotics and buy new shoes that fit well enough to eliminated the need for orthotic.

#3) Do not apply adhesive type products (moleskin, tape, ect..) directly over a blister that is in the current sate of healing that yours is. It is possible that while exercising or when removing these products, the tape will cause the closed wound to become an open wound. An open wound saturated in sweat, naturally occurring foot bacteria and super sticky adhesive is a bad combination.

#4) Do use adhesive type products (moleskin, tape, ect..) in emergency situations. For instance, during a race. Or if you happened to be fighting a war and the bad guys are a few clicks away.

#5) Never pop a blister with a needle or pocket knife as you are turning a closed wound into an open wound.

In summary:

A: Let it heal.

B: Fix or find orthotics and or shoes that do not cause or contribute to this problem.

C: Do not try to patch a shoe fitment problem with tape unless it is an emergency situation.

E: Never turn a closed wound into an open wound.

Good luck

Mark Nicholson

Combat Medic

US Army

1/94th FA MLRS

Nuernberg West Germany

1980

 

Sound advice Mark, thanks!

 

I didn't see your post until now (just finished a 4 mile run, it was planned as a 10) and this is what I did:

 

I covered the blister in two layers of mole skin (directly on the blister). I then wrapped my foot in medical tape. I felt fine through the first 3 miles but then the mole skin moved out of position and it started to hurt again. I called it quits at mile 4 because I didn't think there was a point in making it worse just to complete a training run. I'll keep off it this week and hope that it heals enough to run  on the week before my OLY. I'm going to see the guy that made the orthotic and see what can be done to fix the problem.

I'll take a pumice stone to my heal and the balls of my feet. Is there a benefit to this other then just making my feet look better?

Thanks again! 

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