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2009-08-29 5:41 PM |
Member 124![]() | Subject: Barefoot running?Thoughts? Anyone done this "hippy" fad? I'm admittedly not "hippy", but read about it in a magazine (RW i think) and gave it a try a few months back when I was out playing with my kid. Thought it was fun. I added short runs/sprints on grass to my workouts about once a week or so. Not claiming it to be the best thing since sliced bread, but my form has gotten better (less heel strike, faster turnover) and I have less lingering ankle pain after coming off rehab (partially torn ligament). Admittedly the benefits are subjective at best, this is most likely a natural cause of the healing process and run training after a 8 month lull, but I was curious if anyone else likes the whole barefoot craze (Nike Frees included)? |
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2009-08-29 6:10 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Expert 1690![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I started running barefoot after dealing with knee injuries that just wouldnt go away. Havent had a problem since. I dont claim any big mileage so that will be the true test. I love it and the strange stares i get. I do avoid major roads tho, who knows what kinds of lovelys would get stuck in my tootsies out there. |
2009-08-29 7:12 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Veteran 499![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() El Segundo, CA | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I recently started experimenting with barefoot running at the local track. I go once or twice a week and do easy runs on the grass football field and dirt track. I like it- I don't feel the usual minor aches and pains while running. Time will tell, I guess. |
2009-08-29 8:57 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Veteran 170![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I actually went to a strength and conditioning conference and one of the presenters said that running barefoot on grass forces you to run with good posture and to run on your toes. He also stated that since the advent of all of these different kinds of running shoes, that the number of injuries to runners has gone sky-high. The great Kenyan and African runners don't wear shoes and they don't get hurt either. I do this about 1-2 times per week and it has improved my running form tremendously. Was a little hesitant at first because I have gone through 2 foot surgeries. The biggest thing that you need to be careful with is going too fast too soon; if it hurts, go slower. |
2009-08-29 9:04 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Veteran 288![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I'm a barefoot runner most of the time since 2005, keeps all my old running injuries under control and its just fun running this way. Ran 2 of my first 3 tri's barefoot this year, so yup I like it. |
2009-08-30 10:14 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Master 1324![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Rochester, NY | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I am moving into barefoot running. I've had foot problems most of the last 4 years. Tried the custom orthotic route, doctors, podiatrists, you name it. I've only been trying BF about a month, but I can tell a difference already. Just 10 minutes at a time. Once I get past the soreness of the calf and achilles (very typical when starting out), I plan on transitioning to this style full time. Oh, and Vibram FiveFinger shoes might be good to look into as well. |
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2009-08-30 10:31 AM in reply to: #2378740 |
Master 2638![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Am just starting to run a little (on grass) barefoot. After one year of battling PF, I'm ready to try anything so I'm easing in some shoeless runs with my daughter on "her" loop of 0.5 miles. I do think that walking around barefoot is helping strengthen my feet, so that is good. |
2009-08-30 2:50 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Expert 721![]() ![]() ![]() Chenequa WI | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?This is of interest to me as well although I don't think I'd ever be comfortable training 30 miles a week and racing in any weather and on an surface without some kind of shoe like the Nike Free or Ecco Biom. (I currently only do strides once a week on a football field (feels great and no sharp objects)). As I do some of my own research into shoes to mix in with my Mizunos, I came across this quote from a barefoot runner named Ken Saxton who has raced dozens of marathons barefoot. I think he puts the issue into perspective: “What’s really great about running is that ultimately, racing, especially a marathon or ultramarathon, is about getting from the start line to the finish line, and that isn’t about shoes, or bare feet, or running the entire distance without taking a walk or nap breaks, or running backwards, or whatever. It’s very personal, and it’s about having options, as long as you’re ambulating under your own power, without wheels. Just remember, it’s a footrace, not a shoe race.” [italics added] Just food for thought. |
2009-08-30 4:23 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Expert 1690![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I tried running a bit on the local tennis courts before going to asphalt i think it helped, but more than likely it worked because i thought it would help. Edited by mkarr0110 2009-08-30 4:24 PM |
2009-08-30 5:16 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
New user 219![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I have no desire to try it. But, I just saw a guy on my run today who was barefoot. I have to admit i had to bite my tongue not to say something like "you forgot your shoes." |
2009-08-30 5:20 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Master 1702![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Southern Ontario | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I've been running barefoot for about 3 weeks. I love it - but I do get some seriously strange looks. I was struggling with shin problems. Motion control shoes, orthodics, etc. Nothing seemed to really help. The pain is significantly less since I started running without shoes. I started small - on grass - but honestly, running on harder surfaces forces you into a correct gait. You can run a lot harder and longer on grass with bad technique. I use water shoes that I got for 5$ when I run on asphalt for longer distances - but I can comfortably do 6k with a mix of grass/mulch/asphalt now. |
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2009-08-31 9:11 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Extreme Veteran 484![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() McHenry, IL | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Given some of the great running societies in the world of people who run barefoot, or nearly barefoot, I wouldn't exactly call it a "hippy fad". Just did 5 miles this morning in my Vibram Fivefingers. A couple months ago I started doing a fairly large proportion of my running in VFF's, and some barefoot. I'm really enjoying it. Roads, trails, everywhere. I've also started trying to spend as much of my non-running time as possible either barefoot or in minimally supportive shoes. I've had my fair share of the typical running related injuries, and recently became enlightened about research that seems to indicate a direct relationship between the rates of running injuries and modern cushioned supportive running shoes. I'd recently started feeling the onset of plantar fasciitis, one of the only running injuries I'd yet to suffer. So I took action, and took off my Brooks. Be prepared for a significant period of adaptation if you're interested in moving into barefoot or minimalist footwear running. It takes time for the bones and muscles in your feet and ankles, which have spent most of their lives atrophying in highly supportive shoes, to strengthen. Also, if you're currently a heel striker in cushioned shoes, making the move to mid/fore-foot striking, as happens naturally when going barefoot/minimal, puts a new burden on your calves and Achilles tendons, which need time to adapt and strengthen. If you're interested, I think this guy did a nice write-up, making the case for barefoot or minimalist footwear running. http://www.adventureinprogress.com/tcfmf-introduction Try it. You just might like it.
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2009-08-31 9:19 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Master 1517![]() ![]() Western MA near the VT & NH border on the CT river | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Love running barefoot. I love being barefoot in general. I did 2 miles on saturday on a grass track and felt great. definitely helps w/ my running form. |
2009-09-01 12:33 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Expert 2180![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Boise, Idaho | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?I haven't quite made the leap to barefoot running, but this season i did start using racing flats for ALL my runs (very minimal support). I'll say what others have said-go slowly. I was down with bad calves alot of this season from making the jump too fast. But now I feel good-I used to have orthotics in my work boots (12 hr shifts/all concrete), I'm taken them out recently and feel fine. Good Luck |
2009-09-01 2:32 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Expert 1690![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Hmm some1 mentioned wearing water shoes, I had not heard this before. I dont want to by VFF at $90 a pair yet. Water shoes work out well? |
2009-09-01 5:11 AM in reply to: #2381871 |
Master 1670![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Harvard, Illinois | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?mkarr0110 - 2009-09-01 2:32 AM Hmm some1 mentioned wearing water shoes, I had not heard this before. I dont want to by VFF at $90 a pair yet. Water shoes work out well? I did the 2007 Chicago Marathon in a pair of $5.00 water shoes. They worked fine for me. I just did two miles barefoot on the pavement. A couple of blisters on my soles because I ran across a long pothole patch that was very hot when I ran over it. I knew immediately it was a mistake to do so. |
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2009-09-01 9:08 AM in reply to: #2381871 |
Extreme Veteran 484![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() McHenry, IL | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Haven't used water shoes myself, but if you're interested in learning more about various minimalist shoe options, you could check out a Google group Barefoot Ted started up awhile ago on this general topic. http://groups.google.com/group/huaraches?hl=en
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2009-09-01 10:44 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Extreme Veteran 589![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Gig Harbor | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Just started going bf a week ago and I can already see the difference in my form. I can now actually feel what it means to let your hips lead the way and it is so much easier to keep my torso straight. I really feel like it is a breakthrough for me. Even when I threw my trail shoes on yesterday I naturally went into my barefoot running form and it felt great and I went faster! |
2009-09-02 10:08 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Regular 60![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?All summer I run barefoot on the beach - hard packed, flat sand, and it feels great. I wear Nike Free's all year, but I am looking for something with less cushioning. My feet tend to get torn up, even at the beach, so I need to wear something. As someone who is an experienced barefoot runner, which foot support would you recommend? I would like to try something for high mileage (beyond the 5k). Five Fingers? Thank you! |
2009-09-02 10:12 AM in reply to: #2378225 |
Veteran 263![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Are there studies of this? I love the anecdotes, but I prefer a study with some good statistics. Unfortunately there can be no double blind study of the effects of barefoot running, as I'm pretty sure the subjects would notice. Edit: Just did a pubmed search and found this (unfortunately I don't have access to the journal as I would like to look at the references they cite): RUNNING-RELATED INJURY PREVENTION THROUGH BAREFOOT ADAPTATIONS ROBBINS, SE; HANNA, AM 1987 MEDICINE AND SCIENCE IN SPORTS AND EXERCISE Volume: 19 Issue: 2 Pages: 148-156 Abstract:A number of reports indicate an extremely low running-related injury frequency in barefoot populations in contrast to reports about shod populations. It is hypothesized that the adaptations which produce shock absorption, an inherent consequence of barefoot activity and a mechanism responsible for the low injury frequency in unshod populations, are related to deflection of the medial longitudinal arch of the foot on loading. It is also hypothesized that the known inability of this arch of the shod foot to deflect without failure (foot rigidity) is responsible for the high injury frequency in shod populations. To evaluate these hypotheses, 17 recreational runners were analyzed to study the adaptive pattern of the medial longitudinal arch of the foot due to increased barefoot weight-bearing activity. Changes occurred in the medial longitudinal arch which allowed deflection of this arch on loading which substantiated the hypotheses. Other evidence suggests that sensory feedback largely from the glabrous epithelium of the foot is the element of barefoot activity which induced these adaptations. The sensory insulation inherent in the modern running shoe appears responsible for the high injury frequency associated with running. The injuries are considered "pseudo-neuropathic" in nature. Edited by neuronet 2009-09-02 10:24 AM |
2009-09-02 10:35 AM in reply to: #2384787 |
Expert 721![]() ![]() ![]() Chenequa WI | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?QUOTE]neuronet - 2009-09-02 10:12 AM Are there studies of this? I love the anecdotes, but I prefer a study with some good statistics. Unfortunately there can be no double blind study of the effects of barefoot running, as I'm pretty sure the subjects would notice. Not as many as you think there would be considering the interest and press that barefoot running has received - especially in the past few years. Every now and then a single sutdy crops up on either side of the argument. You can sift through these on the interweb. But, here's a few interesting reads (even scientific - sort of) from Tucker and Dugas on their Science of Sport site: Running shoes, barefoot running and muscle tuning: The intelligent biomachine and implications for running |
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2009-09-02 11:50 AM in reply to: #2381901 |
Elite 3471![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Evergreen, CO | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Rowdy - 2009-09-01 4:11 AM mkarr0110 - 2009-09-01 2:32 AM Hmm some1 mentioned wearing water shoes, I had not heard this before. I dont want to by VFF at $90 a pair yet. Water shoes work out well? I did the 2007 Chicago Marathon in a pair of $5.00 water shoes. They worked fine for me. I just did two miles barefoot on the pavement. A couple of blisters on my soles because I ran across a long pothole patch that was very hot when I ran over it. I knew immediately it was a mistake to do so. I ran in my watershoes for about a month, but they were too hot. I really like my Nike Frees. |
2009-09-02 7:14 PM in reply to: #2385073 |
Regular 330![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?skarl - 2009-09-02 11:50 AM Rowdy - 2009-09-01 4:11 AM mkarr0110 - 2009-09-01 2:32 AM Hmm some1 mentioned wearing water shoes, I had not heard this before. I dont want to by VFF at $90 a pair yet. Water shoes work out well? I did the 2007 Chicago Marathon in a pair of $5.00 water shoes. They worked fine for me. I just did two miles barefoot on the pavement. A couple of blisters on my soles because I ran across a long pothole patch that was very hot when I ran over it. I knew immediately it was a mistake to do so. I ran in my watershoes for about a month, but they were too hot. I really like my Nike Frees. Run in watershoes - 7 dollars at the local grocery store. No knee problems and the only injuries that i've come across have been my calves are tight after i'm done, but haven't done a long run in them yet over 5 miles though. Makes me sick to think of the 100's I've spent on braces, shoes, and orthotics but enjoy running in 7 dollar water shoes more than all of them. Edited by thomas1999 2009-09-02 7:16 PM |
2009-09-02 8:36 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Expert 1690![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Tried running the past few days in a pair of water shoes. I LOVE IT. I dont have to stare are at the ground trying to avoid every little rock and i still feel the same tension and am able to maintain the same form. They are a little "floppy" and slide around a bit on my feet, Im gonna try a smaller pair, maybe they will work like compression socks!!! |
2009-09-02 9:54 PM in reply to: #2378225 |
Veteran 174![]() ![]() ![]() Fort Worth. Texas | Subject: RE: Barefoot running?Have been running in Vibram 5 fingers since late April of this year. All issues with ITB syndrome that plagued me for years were gone within 2 weeks of the switch and haven't come back! I've done a half marathon and the Fort Worth el Scorcho 25K in them too. Went great...except for the twisted ankle during the el Scorcho (but hey...running unpaved trails at midnight...what can you expect). the key is to transition slow and expect calf soreness. Especially if you are a heel striker in your regular running shoes. going barefoot WILL make you change your running form. I will be doing both of my Tris this fall in my Vibrams |
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