kaburns1214 Mentor Group 2012 Part 2 - CLOSED (Page 144)

**HUGS**

Scott--  help me out here -- my fear is that following WW is going to essentially cause you to starve yourself even if youre "only" training 8 - 12 hours / week.

Karen I am with you, limited caloric intake in the off-season is going to led to problems down the rode when she needs to change her system over to a fat burning system for IM racing there will be nothing to burn and then the body is going to get overly fatigued and injury may occur.

I'm not training 8-12 hours....it's more like 5-5:45 right now.  I would consider 8-12 hours to be more volume (a lot in off season, actually), and I would never restrict my calories with a generic weight loss program if that's what I were doing!  If I have weekly volume that high in the near future, then I will up the intake accordingly.  

I am not worried about losing weight (fat or muscle) during IM training.  I gained weight during HIM training (about 6 lbs. from previous season) with a very healthful diet full of the right things, and I think I was at 15 hours training at peak.  I know how my body reacts to the high volume of training, and I don't lose weight while doing it.  That was OK with me.  I was happy with where I was this past season. 

Everything I read says not to try to lose weight during actual training and to do it in the off season or over winter months.  Is this incorrect? 

I agree.  Now the "new" WW with "activity" points will make things a bit better, but not ideal.  WW, Atkins, et al are designed for mostly sedentary folks who maybe do C25K.

jarvy01 - 2012-10-03 11:00 AM I don't know why I'm feeling defensive  I'm just unhappy with my post-race, recovery weeks weight gain, and I'm looking to shed some of it.  I don't want to keep gaining.  I was just looking for viable options for me at this point in time.  If this is a bad idea, then I will just do simple calorie counting on mydailyplate.  

Don't get defensive.  It's a problem a lot of people, especially women, face.  You can always look at upping your protein/good fat intake and lowering your carbs, or carb cycling (carb intake directly related to activity level).  The issue I think Kelly, and I have for that matter, with WW is the methodology in assigning points is gray.  Or it was last I looked at it when Cindy did it. 

uhcoog - 2012-10-03 12:08 PM

jarvy01 - 2012-10-03 11:00 AM I don't know why I'm feeling defensive  I'm just unhappy with my post-race, recovery weeks weight gain, and I'm looking to shed some of it.  I don't want to keep gaining.  I was just looking for viable options for me at this point in time.  If this is a bad idea, then I will just do simple calorie counting on mydailyplate.  

Don't get defensive.  It's a problem a lot of people, especially women, face.  You can always look at upping your protein/good fat intake and lowering your carbs, or carb cycling (carb intake directly related to activity level).  The issue I think Kelly, and I have for that matter, with WW is the methodology in assigning points is gray.  Or it was last I looked at it when Cindy did it. 

I don't think counting calories is the way to go for you.  I think Scott is correct that you need to play around with your macro nutrient profile.

Jen I share your frustration.  I've tried counting calories and it's not that simple.  And there is no "plan" that works for everyone.  There are people I know that went strict paleo and have had great results both with weight and race performance.  I tried it a few times, felt like crap, and gave up.

I've done WW in the past, and what I like about it is the weekly weigh in.  It shamed me into being good.  I know for the most part what I should be eating (beer & cake is no good!) so I would follow my own plan, not WW, but show up and weigh in.  That worked for me.

I've had mixed results while training for an IM.  1st & 3rd I did not lose anything.  2nd I did lose quite a bit of weight.  The difference was I did more fasted workouts, and pretty much gave up beer and junk food.  The other two my mentality was "I'm working out like a mad woman, I can eat whatever I want", and that does not work.

ETA - for the 4th I need to be good again, that Team Buttercup top is not cute with extra poundage!

I absolutely think it's hormones.  Why is it that my husband can cut out 1 of his 3 evening snacks for a month and lose 10 pounds?  It's just unfair

I have made some small changes this week like omitting my afternoon snack of almonds, omitting sunflower seeds from my salad at lunch, only eating 1 portion of meat at dinner, increasing vegetarian dinner nights, omitting honey from my afternoon green tea, and no snacking after dinner.  I'm going to stick with it for a while and see if these changes make a difference before I freak out.  It's really tough because I love my almonds, almond butter, and seeds!!!  They'll be reintroduced once the training volume is back up, and that's what I'll tell myself when I'm craving them.  

1:30 on the trainer this morning.  I had to get up pretty early to get it in before the kids got up.  I was about 20 minutes into the ride when I saw a mouse scurry across the basement floor!!!!!  AHHHHHHH!!!  They followed me here!  I used to get scared, scream, and run.  Now I just feel angry and disgusted because these disgusting bottom feeders are crawling all over the floors my kids play on all day.  Grrr.  Husband's extra job for the day is to pick up traps.  

I missed a run on Tuesday because I just wasn't feeling it, so I think I will make it up this afternoon (or Friday after my swim).  I also plan on doing 30 minutes of core work tonight.  

I know, and my husband tells me the same thing.  It would be uncharacteristic of me to let the little things go.  I must worry about everything  Plus, I want to indulge over the holidays.  

My husband wonders why I'm always "watching" what I eat.  I know I don't have that much to lose, but I still want to lose it.  And if I wasn't aware of it, I'd have a lot more to lose.

Last night during my run I was thinking about Michele talking about "the last 10 pounds".  I've been trying to lost that last 10 pounds for as long as I can remember.  Why are they so stubborn???

You female, you're getting older and you're not sedentary.

You can't compare yourself to the "average" female.  For lots of people atarting to exercise is magic because they've done nothing for so long. You been active at a high volume for years.  Your body has a completely different set point.

Nice Pics Kelly! I thought of you the other day when we picked up a soccer shirt for my youngest sone. It had a hedgehog on it with the soccer ball.

Short swim + strength this a.m.   I have to make up a run tonight.  I'm feeling really out of touch with my run, and I'm only doing it 3 x per week, so I have to really focus and give 100% when I have a run workout scheduled.  

I did this swim drill today where you hold a kickboard with one arm and focus on the pull with the other arm while also focusing on your kick.  Wow!  It really helped me to pay attention to high elbow and quality of my catch and pull.  I highly recommend this drill.  Can you tell I've been reading Swim Speed Secrets, Scott?  

Signed up my older 2 boys for basketball.  We'll see if they have the skills  I love, love, love basketball, and I would be jazzed if one of my guys picked it up.  Gordie is doing Little Hoops for preschool kids, and if he likes it and wants to stick with it, then I'm going to volunteer to be a coach.  Conrad said no moms allowed (he's 7).  LOL 

Rent a movie on demand!!!!  Imagine having to do that for 5 months of the year due to snow

Snow if fun to visit.  It is not for living in.