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2013-06-24 3:04 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by TriAya
Originally posted by cdban66
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Heya sweet Manatees I've been able to scroll through and read everything, love/hate what I've read (as appropriate ... or heck, mostly I'm inappropriate) and will do my best to get back to everyone.

I'm still pretty battered and angry and licking my wounds, and look ... while what I wrote was the worst that happened in the race, a whole lot of other important stuff went very wrong too.

I did spend the whole day with Chris Lieto and then his wife, so that was awesome. Except he's pretty sick with a chest cold, so they come to me for help in figuring out what he can take that isn't on the banned list?! Ummm ... I dunno, a hot shower? And you're serious that you don't know what alternative remedies/relief you can take (since most decongestants and quite a few antihistamines and cough suppressants are on the banned list, especially since he is IN competition right now)? HAHAHA ... oh man, he is never going to hear the end of this from me.

Also, I took both above-water and underwater swim video of him (not to mention one of us racing fly down the pool ... this was yesterday before he got sick) and I threatened to publicly post them if he doesn't rest, use what we did find for him, and get the eff better fast.

However, I told him I WOULD be providing a closed (so probably BT albums posted) link just for the Manatees

Anyway, Chris, Brennan (the U.S.-side sponsor/organizer) and I will be meeting tomorrow to see if we can save this race. Chris has fallen in love with Bali and the Bali Sports Foundation (for disadvantaged and disabled kids) and really wants to keep it partnered with his foundation, More than Sport (which actually raises money for other foundations). Brennan also understands exactly what I'm going to add in large red letters across everything I've ever written or posted about the Bali Tri AND search-engine optimize it if MANY things aren't merely addressed, but amended (like getting our Indonesian athletes new bikes and reimbursing their follow-up medical care). That's for starters.

I was thinking about your trials and tribulations this weekend and I decided that you are a fairly awesome person. OK, I may have decided that before, but I was reminded of that again. Giving your bike to someone else, and the obvious concern you have for the race, the racers and for the reputation of the country as a whole. I think that is why you were there and I also think you did your family proud by being there. 

You're making me cry!

I thought about that when you said it ... yeah. So much of what was good about this race was bringing people back to Bali, a place that's suffered horribly from terrorism, giving back to the community through some really amazing causes, and getting INDONESIAN triathletes established/sponsored/experienced/prepared to compete internationally/etc. Establishing triathlon as a sport in Indonesia, especially for those who are talented but can't afford/access training and equipment.

My family, and my dad too I'm sure, really are proud.

The "kid" I gave my bike to? (I think of him as my kid brother ) He HAULED ASH in on it, blew out a 0:44 T2 (this was a BIG transition area, which you had to run AROUND after chip swipe to get into, killed himself on the run, AND WON THE M20-29 AGE GROUP (competitive--15 athletes in it, including several other of our development athletes.)

The trade was technically legal since I "sold" him my bike in exchange for his shoes. He did not abandon equipment on the course (his bike), because he handed it off to an official (me!).

This is what he posted on my FB wall (he tried really hard to write it in English so more people would understand it--bless him):

"Big gratitude to Mrs Yanti Ardie being my angle. she teach me never give up though you fall in the bike you got injured and bike broken. you must keep continue.
event condition is so bad never give up.
once Big Thanks Mrs Yanti Ardie you."

Now that's worth an effen cry!

In other good news, I was top 15 (out of well over 200 counting relays) out of the water. Chris Clone Piglet said he counted me as 7th but there's this 100m steep sloping soft-sand run before chip swipe--sigh--but oh well, I still held on to a damn good place. That effen Sheila T I hate with her 1000 fly and 1000 kick in "recovery endurance" workouts has done me some good it seems! Also, as usual, the swim course was mismeasured. Every frickin' year! Not as bad as previous years, though. And shockingly enough, I was not DFL either in the bike, run, or the whole race!

However, adding insult to all the injuries many of us sustained, there was some serious course-cutting happening (on the bike, likely purposefully ... this happened in previous years as well) ... you gotta get a little suspicious when the top guy pulls out a Brownlee, Gomez, and Lieto-shattering 0:53 on an Oly course (that has a long steep hill in it and shyteloads of Asian traffic).

Run course was a fiasco and most of the 5K people ran a lot longer (some the full 10K!) because of no turn sign/marker/volunteer/etc., but there shouldn't have been any course-cutting on the Olympic (no marker there either but it was the end of the road), and there likely was cutting there too.

They have not amended the results and the prizes both overall and by category are significant. Especially to Indonesians, for whom the cash prizes mean several months' salary.

I still need to do some introspection about this in order to have a clear head for tomorrow--it's just that so much (basically anything actually having to do with THE RACE, duh!) went wrong ... but at least I'm not swearing EVERY word about it now, just every other word.

P.S. Chris Lieto took a DNF rather than risk actually trying to race the bike course--he had a GoPro mounted on his bars and the evidence is just damning. He looked at one of the intersections and rather than trying to go through it, just turned back, and rode very slowly through the traffic, stopping, etc., and getting it all on camera. He did do the whole run course.

Because he "turned himself in" after the race, he got a DNF rather than a DQ (that's for people who get caught, so to speak).

So, that's TWO races I've beaten Chris in now

But seriously ... shameful. Effin' shameful. We bring triathlon's greatest cyclist, one of triathlon's greatest, period, and certainly one of the nicest guys in triathlon ... shame, shame, shame!!!

Thinking about it, I can't believe he's still willing to even talk to us, never mind in a positive and constructive fashion.

But that's who he is.

you have snared him with your calf nibble. I totally understand


2013-06-24 3:16 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by brigby1
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl

Okay kiddos... here's the latest long-winded race report.

Apparently I like the pre-race stuff a lot better than the race itself judging by the amount of writing I do about the pre-race fun and shenanigans. 

http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/discussion/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=493171

Impressive list at that event. Really seems to be getting some attention. Lauren Jensen is 46, but either is or was a pro, can't remember if she still has the pro card. Paul Eicher is a pro. Lukas Verzbicas is THAT Lukas. Ryan Giuliano has run pro tri for a few years, but dropped it to concentrate on pro duathlete side (which he's better at). Matt Ancona is amateur, but on the Zoot team. Same as Bryan Dunn for those who remember him.

It really is an impressive list (though I can't confirm the status of Lukas for you) - and the race is really well run, with a full complement of para-triathletes as well, which is supremely humbling and inspiring and impressive all at the same time.  

2013-06-24 3:18 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
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3:20 something for me today. I purposefully didn't run with my watch, so I'm not sure of the exact time and I have little idea of my splits. Here's the down and dirty and then I'm taking a nap.

SWIM: Two 750m loops, with a short run on the beach between the two loops. I thought that would be a nice break, but it was horrible -- spiked my heart rate, so I had a mild panic when I got back in the water, but I got myself under control and finished strong. (about 30 minutes?)

BIKE: Dropped my chain for no reason. Horrible winds (25 mph at least) The road was worse than last year -- I thought my bike would jiggle apart on one section.  Count them -- 7 turn arounds. We climbed the dam 3 times in each loop, so 6 times. That's a killer for me. (about 1:40-1:45?)

RUN: Just as I was crossing a wooden bridge heading into the second loop, I tripped and skidded on my left hip and left knee. The knee must have taken the brunt of it because it is really sore now and beginning to develop a large bruise. But I didn't break any skin, so no blood. I still felt like crying. Finished strong enough to outrun someone in my age group for a 3rd place AG. (About an hour?)

My transitions were horrible. I had to clean up the grease from my hands before the run. I guess I didn't HAVE to, but I wanted to.

Overall, I feel pretty good, just really tired and frustrated about my knee. :-(

Wow!  Another Bada$$ Manatee.  Way to tough things out.

How is your knee today? 

Much better, thank you. I must have scraped a layer or two of skin off because it looks like I have a scab now, but there really has been no bleeding.  But I have so many scars now on my knees because of my clumsiness, what's one more.

I iced it a lot last night, so today it isn't slowing me down any. If it weren't for that, I would be feeling really great today -- well, still tired, but not really sore.

2013-06-24 3:24 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by cdban66
Originally posted by jmkizer

Originally posted by 4agoodlife Watching the live coverage of Wallenda tight roping across the Grand Canyon. My HR is up...and I'm just sitting in my living room! Surprised

Oh, I know.  I started to sweat as soon as he got on the wire and I was only on the sofa! 

I'm such a wimp that I couldn't watch.

I was the same. I just wanted to hear that it was over and he was okay. And that he would never, ever do anything like that again. LOL Fat chance, right?

2013-06-24 3:25 PM
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Originally posted by kgore Day one of Ab Challenge DONE! I will log it tonight. Laughing   Off to play with the carnivores again....Today we get to wrangle two Giant Anteaters....Not looking forward to it---they are stinky.

You have my dream job. I am so jealous of what you get to do all day, even if it is stinky.

2013-06-24 3:30 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
I think I need a spreadsheet to keep track of all the challenges! Between Jogo, TdF and the core challenge, plus I'm logging miles for Team Fight, I gotta keep this all straight!


2013-06-24 4:35 PM
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Originally posted by rrrunner I think I need a spreadsheet to keep track of all the challenges! Between Jogo, TdF and the core challenge, plus I'm logging miles for Team Fight, I gotta keep this all straight!

Good Luck!!!!!

2013-06-24 4:52 PM
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Originally posted by kgore Day one of Ab Challenge DONE! I will log it tonight. Laughing   Off to play with the carnivores again....Today we get to wrangle two Giant Anteaters....Not looking forward to it---they are stinky.

"Zookeeper" was on tv last night. In your expert opinion, is it wrong that I didn't find talking zoo animals that far-fetched? Tongue out  "Since when could you talk???" "Today's Tuesday? So...always." hehehe

2013-06-24 5:08 PM
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Pub Ride

This is the event we did this weekend. High Vis orange tech shirts is TW and I.

2013-06-24 5:31 PM
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That looked like fun! Wish I could find one in my area. Of course the cop attorney in me immediately thought somewhere during the ride people were biking under the influence and the cops could of had a field day! After so many years at my job it's hard to turn those thoughts off - it can be a real pain sometimes ETA: this was directed to Chris's pub ride.

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2013-06-24 5:40 PM
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Ugh...looking at race schedules for the next two months. Pretty much nada. It's full-on summer in the desert. 115* forecast for Friday. Maybe some splash n dash type things? Frown 


2013-06-24 5:48 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
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Pub Ride

This is the event we did this weekend. High Vis orange tech shirts is TW and I.

Nice!

Then again, I ride with a brewery -- http://www.teamcbc.com/

2013-06-24 7:09 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)

ok manatee's... about to head out for a little ride (10 mins)... testing a new app / website.  

Anyone looking now - go to www.sportstracklive.com   

No registering or anything required.. I think being my "friend" would make it easier to find me...but I am also setting it to post on twitter / facebook when I start.  I think there will be a link in there to click and you can find my ride that way...

It doesn't look like that many people are using the app - so you will probably be able to see my track from the home page of the website.  Username is the same as it is here... 

This one is promising - I just watched a total strangers ride for a few minutes - and it seemed to work just fine.  

2013-06-24 7:22 PM
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Originally posted by TriAya

Heya sweet Manatees I've been able to scroll through and read everything, love/hate what I've read (as appropriate ... or heck, mostly I'm inappropriate) and will do my best to get back to everyone.

I'm still pretty battered and angry and licking my wounds, and look ... while what I wrote was the worst that happened in the race, a whole lot of other important stuff went very wrong too.

I did spend the whole day with Chris Lieto and then his wife, so that was awesome. Except he's pretty sick with a chest cold, so they come to me for help in figuring out what he can take that isn't on the banned list?! Ummm ... I dunno, a hot shower? And you're serious that you don't know what alternative remedies/relief you can take (since most decongestants and quite a few antihistamines and cough suppressants are on the banned list, especially since he is IN competition right now)? HAHAHA ... oh man, he is never going to hear the end of this from me.

Also, I took both above-water and underwater swim video of him (not to mention one of us racing fly down the pool ... this was yesterday before he got sick) and I threatened to publicly post them if he doesn't rest, use what we did find for him, and get the eff better fast.

However, I told him I WOULD be providing a closed (so probably BT albums posted) link just for the Manatees

Anyway, Chris, Brennan (the U.S.-side sponsor/organizer) and I will be meeting tomorrow to see if we can save this race. Chris has fallen in love with Bali and the Bali Sports Foundation (for disadvantaged and disabled kids) and really wants to keep it partnered with his foundation, More than Sport (which actually raises money for other foundations). Brennan also understands exactly what I'm going to add in large red letters across everything I've ever written or posted about the Bali Tri AND search-engine optimize it if MANY things aren't merely addressed, but amended (like getting our Indonesian athletes new bikes and reimbursing their follow-up medical care). That's for starters.

Sorry my love but how ever much I sympathize with you and wish you well I just can't get past this statement.    Must resist saying something about volunteering... Nay must take the high road here.....

 

 

I'll go stand in the corner now.  Embarassed

2013-06-24 8:13 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Got my core work in with some upper body work and yoga....ohmygawd the yoga class hit every muscle in my body and made me shake like a newborn pony just trying to stand up.
2013-06-24 8:27 PM
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Setting up g+ and did a manatees search just for s&g's. hahaha! Purple manatee, manatees wrath, capn manatee, horny manatee, paranoid manatee...etc, etc, etc.


2013-06-24 8:33 PM
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MANATEES!!!  WE HAVE A WINNER!  

www.sportstracklive.com - the "pro" version only cost $1.33 (USD)

JoJo tracked me - no reported glitches...it's not a battery hog, and holy she-ot... look at these stats:

http://www.sportstracklive.com/track/detail/Muskrat37/Cycling/Gig-Harbor/1078180  

I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE the way it breaks it down.  Not sure if the elevation is accurate yet, but I will test that against my new Garmin 910XT when it arrives.  It will track heart rate ... but not my cadence

When I get the 910XT, I'm going to see if it works with the Garmin Connect app, as that app also does live tracking...but otherwise, I'm very please with this app.. 

2013-06-24 8:43 PM
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Wow - was just playing around with that link - you can actually click on "Play" and then fast forward it and watch the "ride" - You can set it to 48x or 96x speed (or faster) and watch the whole thing. (48x seems to be the fastest if you want to watch the elevation and speed graph along with the arrow on the map.  

This is a cool faching app!  

Also - from that home screen, you can click on any of the intervals, or PB's and then select any of the splits and isolate that on the map... 

Loving it so far.  

2013-06-24 10:03 PM
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Day 1 of 100 complete... 

The ab kit:

My gorgeous instructor:

Day 1 Pic: (note the Farmers Cyclist Tan)



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2013-06-24 10:28 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by 4agoodlife

Originally posted by kgore Day one of Ab Challenge DONE! I will log it tonight. Laughing   Off to play with the carnivores again....Today we get to wrangle two Giant Anteaters....Not looking forward to it---they are stinky.

"Zookeeper" was on tv last night. In your expert opinion, is it wrong that I didn't find talking zoo animals that far-fetched? Tongue out  "Since when could you talk???" "Today's Tuesday? So...always." hehehe

It is not wrong at all. I talk to all the animals constantly; admittedly, I do give them their 'own voices' to speak back to me...(The  Fulvous Whistling Ducks have higher pitched voices and say "We're Ducks, we like to party!"....the Blue Poison Dart Frogs have gruff low voices, saying " 'bout time you feed us...we hate you so much!") Yes, I have a good imagination.

The anteaters didn't cooperate, so I played with the kitties and some otters instead...it was a drizzly, wet day....I am tired.

2013-06-24 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by QueenZipp Got my core work in with some upper body work and yoga....ohmygawd the yoga class hit every muscle in my body and made me shake like a newborn pony just trying to stand up.

I can't wait for my yoga tomorrow! I'm totally happy being a newborn filly Laughing

On another note, for the more adventurous dressers...

http://quadsnotincluded.com/collections/all



2013-06-24 11:37 PM
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I forgot to mention a certain little Terenzo Bozzone won Mont Tremblant 70.3 at the weekend.  yum.
2013-06-24 11:41 PM
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Some help - I was advised to train in Z2 for my run and ride, easy enough on the trainer.

My z2 max is about 140.

On my run I run 2mins, walk 1min.  In the walk section my HR is about 120-125, so i figure in the run it could max at 160 making an average of 140.  Am I being too simplistic?

2013-06-24 11:58 PM
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Subject: RE: Mad Manatee Mentors 2013: CLOSED (exc/ Pop Tart bribes)
Originally posted by blueyedbikergirl
Originally posted by TriAya

This is what he posted on my FB wall (he tried really hard to write it in English so more people would understand it--bless him):

"Big gratitude to Mrs Yanti Ardie being my angle. she teach me never give up though you fall in the bike you got injured and bike broken. you must keep continue.
event condition is so bad never give up.
once Big Thanks Mrs Yanti Ardie you."

To me, this says it all. 

Bark bark bark bark bark!

Now the race results are totally in shambles both because of likely deliberate course cutting as well as poor (or nonexistent) marshalling/signage/direction, but my lovely little athlete not only placed first in his age group, he STILL placed TOP TEN overall!!! So proud. So proud.

2013-06-25 12:03 AM
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Originally posted by jobaxas

Some help - I was advised to train in Z2 for my run and ride, easy enough on the trainer.

My z2 max is about 140.

On my run I run 2mins, walk 1min.  In the walk section my HR is about 120-125, so i figure in the run it could max at 160 making an average of 140.  Am I being too simplistic?

I don't train with zones, so I may be completely wrong, but that's not how I understand it. If you are bouncing from 120 to 160 in a single workout, that sounds like zone 1 and zone 3 (for example), and not zone 2 at all, except as you pass from one zone to the other.

I would think you would want to try to maintain your heart rate at zone 2 for the entire workout. But maybe it does indeed mean an average.

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