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2009-01-10 11:32 AM
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mikep - 2009-01-08 8:11 AM I have seen a lot lately about keep the elbows high/up in the swm stroke, which is something I stink at.  Anybody have some drill suggestions to practice this high elbow position?

Fingertip drag drills.  As you bring the arm up in recovery drag just the fingertips in the water along your side.

2009-01-10 11:40 AM
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QueenZipp - 2009-01-10 12:32 PM

mikep - 2009-01-08 8:11 AM I have seen a lot lately about keep the elbows high/up in the swm stroke, which is something I stink at.  Anybody have some drill suggestions to practice this high elbow position?

Fingertip drag drills.  As you bring the arm up in recovery drag just the fingertips in the water along your side.

The fingertip drag drill is a great one to help with the "marionette" arm recovery. This also helps with the shoulder and hip rotation. I believe the OP was referring to the Early Vertical Forearm (EVF) at the beginning of the stroke under the water.

BTW - The fingertip drill, or dragging your thumb up your side during recovery, goes very well with a catch-up drill. Try them both at the same time for something new.

2009-01-10 12:57 PM
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rstocks3 - 2009-01-10 11:40 AM
QueenZipp - 2009-01-10 12:32 PM

mikep - 2009-01-08 8:11 AM I have seen a lot lately about keep the elbows high/up in the swm stroke, which is something I stink at.  Anybody have some drill suggestions to practice this high elbow position?

Fingertip drag drills.  As you bring the arm up in recovery drag just the fingertips in the water along your side.

The fingertip drag drill is a great one to help with the "marionette" arm recovery. This also helps with the shoulder and hip rotation. I believe the OP was referring to the Early Vertical Forearm (EVF) at the beginning of the stroke under the water.

BTW - The fingertip drill, or dragging your thumb up your side during recovery, goes very well with a catch-up drill. Try them both at the same time for something new.

My coach has me do touch up as my main drill set.  In fact, I touch up on all breathing strokes in my swims. I do finger tip combined with touch up a lot.  Also fist for the forearm "feel" in water.  6KPS with touch up is pretty good too.

2009-01-10 3:29 PM
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Subject: RE: high elbow drills?
Another great drill I've used for years for high elbows is "scratch drill".

In this video, it's called "zipper drill". It's the second drill featured in the video...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-NE8_1OG3w

Doing this has always helped me keep my elbows very high. After you finish your armstroke by your thigh, scratch your thumb all along the length of your thigh, side of your body, and up your armpit. Take it slow and deliberate.

Hope that helps! Good luck swimming and enjoy...
2009-09-15 12:44 PM
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ering305 - 2009-01-10 3:29 PM Another great drill I've used for years for high elbows is "scratch drill". In this video, it's called "zipper drill". It's the second drill featured in the video... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-NE8_1OG3w Doing this has always helped me keep my elbows very high. After you finish your armstroke by your thigh, scratch your thumb all along the length of your thigh, side of your body, and up your armpit. Take it slow and deliberate. Hope that helps! Good luck swimming and enjoy...


The post is about early vertical forearm during the propulsive part of the stroke (after entry in the water), not about high elbow during recovery. Someone else posted this video, but let me repost as it clarifies and is very good:
http://www.goswim.tv/entries/5484/freestyle---practice-the-catch.ht... />

I find the 'fist swimiming' drill is very helpful. Just swim with fists instead of open hands, and then if I drop my elbows I basically get zero propulsion. It forces you to use your forearms to swim.


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