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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ponderingfox I'm going to pick back up with my masters group on Thursday. Looking forward to swimming again. I basically didn't swim the entire summer, except for races (not optimal, I know). As in the opposite of optimal? |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by mtnbikerchk Originally posted by brigby1 well then DAMN YOU TOO!! LOL **I dunno about buying a carbon saddle off ebay.......one hairline crack in the rails and then I'm pulling seat post outta my crack! LMAO! Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by amd723 Originally posted by mtnbikerchk HEY KIDS! I've been busting my butt the last few days running between Boston and home getting a 2nd FIT opinion and trying every saddle ever made. DAMN YOU to the person who suggested DASH saddles! LOL (was it Chris, maybe?) Anyway, by far the most comfortable saddle I tried - I'm about 2 steps away from being that desperate to spend $400 on a carbon saddle. HOLY CRAP! Ok, back to work! Randee OUT Holy Moly, that better be one sweet saddle!! I think Chris should contribute to the saddle fund since he turned you on to the DASH Craiglist? Ebay? I should probably take credit for this one, but do find it interesting how everyone seems so eager to pile it on Chris! Have I mentioned never wanting another saddle and how 4 & 5 hr rides are enjoyable? |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ponderingfox I'm going to pick back up with my masters group on Thursday. Looking forward to swimming again. I basically didn't swim the entire summer, except for races (not optimal, I know). As in the opposite of optimal? Well, it wasn't race suicide. I usually place near the front of the swim leg (I do well for a non-swimmer). But definitely not optimal. My trouble is balancing a 3x each discipline schedule. Double workout days are hard for me to do consistently. Of course, at some point I'll need to suck it up and do it if I want to start edging closer to being in the pointy end at the end of the race. A good night's rest is critical to waking up early, and I've been having a difficult time with that all year. |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ponderingfox I'm going to pick back up with my masters group on Thursday. Looking forward to swimming again. I basically didn't swim the entire summer, except for races (not optimal, I know). As in the opposite of optimal? I'm thinking about the same approach to a tri this weekend, but with the bike. Not sure it'll work out as well for me as for you… I know… I should just DOOOO EEEET. (ugh, getting back in shape is a slog) Matt |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ponderingfox I'm going to pick back up with my masters group on Thursday. Looking forward to swimming again. I basically didn't swim the entire summer, except for races (not optimal, I know). As in the opposite of optimal? Well, it wasn't race suicide. I usually place near the front of the swim leg (I do well for a non-swimmer). But definitely not optimal. My trouble is balancing a 3x each discipline schedule. Double workout days are hard for me to do consistently. Of course, at some point I'll need to suck it up and do it if I want to start edging closer to being in the pointy end at the end of the race. A good night's rest is critical to waking up early, and I've been having a difficult time with that all year. Good on ya for getting back to the pool. I have been having an ongoing discussion with Janyne on this type of thing. I am consistently impressed with her, and Adrienne's, and Ben's training. It is so consistent and focused. We know Adrienne's commitment to running. For Ben it seems like biking has been the primary thing this summer, while for Janyne, there is obviously a preparation for an upcoming IM distance event. But for all of them, there is a level of commitment that is a challenge for many of us to reach. And I believe that the commitment is more of a mental challenge than a physical one. Not to belittle the physical challenge, since that aspect is very real. But the mental aspect of the daily grind is not to be taken lightly. I know it is a commitment that I am unable to make right now, due to the realities of my life. Having said that, I also think if I want to make an improvement that this is the one area that I really have to address first. I would have to balance my expectations and my desires with what my life has available to me to figure out the commitment that I can make to improving. Am I willing to make the sacrifices that I need to in order to gain the results I am after? I'm not sure I can get to the level of dedication that would be necessary for the improvement to be shown. I am reminded of the old southern fable of involvement in breakfast preparation. The chicken is involved in breakfast, but the pig shows commitment! |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ponderingfox I'm going to pick back up with my masters group on Thursday. Looking forward to swimming again. I basically didn't swim the entire summer, except for races (not optimal, I know). As in the opposite of optimal? Well, it wasn't race suicide. I usually place near the front of the swim leg (I do well for a non-swimmer). But definitely not optimal. My trouble is balancing a 3x each discipline schedule. Double workout days are hard for me to do consistently. Of course, at some point I'll need to suck it up and do it if I want to start edging closer to being in the pointy end at the end of the race. A good night's rest is critical to waking up early, and I've been having a difficult time with that all year. Good on ya for getting back to the pool. I have been having an ongoing discussion with Janyne on this type of thing. I am consistently impressed with her, and Adrienne's, and Ben's training. It is so consistent and focused. We know Adrienne's commitment to running. For Ben it seems like biking has been the primary thing this summer, while for Janyne, there is obviously a preparation for an upcoming IM distance event. But for all of them, there is a level of commitment that is a challenge for many of us to reach. And I believe that the commitment is more of a mental challenge than a physical one. Not to belittle the physical challenge, since that aspect is very real. But the mental aspect of the daily grind is not to be taken lightly. I know it is a commitment that I am unable to make right now, due to the realities of my life. Having said that, I also think if I want to make an improvement that this is the one area that I really have to address first. I would have to balance my expectations and my desires with what my life has available to me to figure out the commitment that I can make to improving. Am I willing to make the sacrifices that I need to in order to gain the results I am after? I'm not sure I can get to the level of dedication that would be necessary for the improvement to be shown. I am reminded of the old southern fable of involvement in breakfast preparation. The chicken is involved in breakfast, but the pig shows commitment! Part of this is the dilemma of being a triathlete. There wouldn't be an issue if I could focus on just one discipline. But trying to squeeze three in means that there is compromise so far as abilities go for any one particular discipline. It would be fun sometime to take a year a focus on running, but I think right now I'm enjoying racing triathlon more than simply running. Life is about trade offs, I guess. |
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Master![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() For me it's perfectly normal to be doing something active since I've been doing that for most all my life. I was a three sport athlete through grade school and high school. Then simply moved between various activities in college and after. It's not really a grind, but stuff I like doing. Not everything, but most of the time I do want to be out there doing something active. It's more figuring out what to do as opposed to doing anything at all. If grind is an accurate description a lot of the time then something is wrong. Then with the logs, it's always going to look like I'm in a bike focus as I like to bike the most. My training doesn't actually reflect becoming a balanced triathlete, but my interests in each of the sports. Within each sport I still try to be effective, but the amounts tend to reflect my interests more so. One of the risks of having logs open is people making incorrect conclusions about such things. Until more recently, I really hadn't enjoyed running this year so didn't do it as much. There is no way I could say what I've put in is good even though I've just done short course runs. Too little and to infrequent. One could also look at the recent bike rides. The big one two weeks ago was an actual event I went to. Then a week ago I did another ride that ended up taking just as long (though it was at an easier effort). That one was on a mountain bike using the local MUP. There was no real point to it other than I just wanted to be outside on my bike riding through the woods for a long time. At no point did it feel like I was grinding through things. I just really enjoyed being out there. Edited by brigby1 2014-08-25 10:05 AM |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by IndoIronYanti Originally posted by StaceyK Yanti done in 9:31:14 WooHoo well done Yanti!
I thought about Dee and Jazz on the run course ... hope your newbies are entertaining you and having fun.
(nevermind training blah blah blah life stressors heh) I think NyNy tried--hah! My stupidity knows no bounds. Relatively, very slow swim times for both Kingsley and I. The bike--well--there aren't any flat bits. Literally. It's either up or down. And a nice long refreshing rainstorm, complete with thunder and lightning. And then a hilly mud run (a lot was on trail and sand). TOO MUCH FUN ... not entirely joking either! More later. Like a RR? CONGRATS, dear Yanti and Kingsley!! Sounds like quite the day with many perils and challenges with the weather and terrain, not to mention your health. Glad you were able to finish and hopefully it doesn't delay your recouperation! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Hahaha, I've never heard that southern fable! I agree that the mental aspect - especially when training for long course events, is the hardest. Or at least that has been my experience. I've only done 3 HIMs, but by the end of the training schedule I was so ready to be done! Physically, I was ok( or as ok as I ever am), but it wore on me having to fit in the 2 a day work outs or long Sunday bike rides every week. I found the same thing when I was running marathons- at times it was just mentally challenging to get myself worked up to run the high mileage weeks . That's one of the reasons I have been focusing on HMs the last few years. I sometimes think I'd like to run another marathon, but right now I'm happy with HMs. And, as it looks like my tri season is over, I can concentrate on them. That thought does make me happy.Originally posted by ponderingfox Originally posted by brigby1 Originally posted by ponderingfox I'm going to pick back up with my masters group on Thursday. Looking forward to swimming again. I basically didn't swim the entire summer, except for races (not optimal, I know). As in the opposite of optimal? Well, it wasn't race suicide. I usually place near the front of the swim leg (I do well for a non-swimmer). But definitely not optimal. My trouble is balancing a 3x each discipline schedule. Double workout days are hard for me to do consistently. Of course, at some point I'll need to suck it up and do it if I want to start edging closer to being in the pointy end at the end of the race. A good night's rest is critical to waking up early, and I've been having a difficult time with that all year. Good on ya for getting back to the pool. I have been having an ongoing discussion with Janyne on this type of thing. I am consistently impressed with her, and Adrienne's, and Ben's training. It is so consistent and focused. We know Adrienne's commitment to running. For Ben it seems like biking has been the primary thing this summer, while for Janyne, there is obviously a preparation for an upcoming IM distance event. But for all of them, there is a level of commitment that is a challenge for many of us to reach. And I believe that the commitment is more of a mental challenge than a physical one. Not to belittle the physical challenge, since that aspect is very real. But the mental aspect of the daily grind is not to be taken lightly. I know it is a commitment that I am unable to make right now, due to the realities of my life. Having said that, I also think if I want to make an improvement that this is the one area that I really have to address first. I would have to balance my expectations and my desires with what my life has available to me to figure out the commitment that I can make to improving. Am I willing to make the sacrifices that I need to in order to gain the results I am after? I'm not sure I can get to the level of dedication that would be necessary for the improvement to be shown. I am reminded of the old southern fable of involvement in breakfast preparation. The chicken is involved in breakfast, but the pig shows commitment! |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() I think we're both saying the same sort of thing. You are (in my mind anyway) fairly dedicated to the activities. Be it your current bike riding, your past swimming or running, you are willing to push yourself to reach a certain level. I'm not certain that most average AG triathletes (or below average like myself) are willing to go to the lengths needed to make improvements. Commitment and dedication are the key in my mind. It has been pretty cool to see the effort/results put forth by those that are at the upper end of the dedication tower. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Or:
We had a pastor in Omaha that used that analogy regularly |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() So I only went two pages back for catching up...mostly because I've found that only having 24 hours in a day is restrictive of Manachat time. Salty- that looks like an amazing adventure. Just beautiful. Matt- happy to see you're able to get back at it! Randee- did you drop that $400 yet? "Badazz, Energetic, Nice fellow" seems to be pushing it...like crack. Yanti- yay for a muddy fun race! Hope you're recovering happily. Deanna- good to see you drop in. Life gets hectic...do what you can, when you can
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Or: Hmmmm....while I "get it", can you think of a more vegetarian-friendly analogy? |
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Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife So I only went two pages back for catching up...mostly because I've found that only having 24 hours in a day is restrictive of Manachat time. Salty- that looks like an amazing adventure. Just beautiful. Matt- happy to see you're able to get back at it! Randee- did you drop that $400 yet? "Badazz, Energetic, Nice fellow" seems to be pushing it...like crack. Yanti- yay for a muddy fun race! Hope you're recovering happily. Deanna- good to see you drop in. Life gets hectic...do what you can, when you can
Now Yanti don't go teasing us with promises of a RR unless you're going to deliver ![]() Hopefully I'll pick up my bike today with the changes and the Specialized Ruby on it. I have a fast flat 28 planned. If it goes badly, I probably will get the expensive saddle. I'm at that point.................... |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by cdban66 Or: Hmmmm....while I "get it", can you think of a more vegetarian-friendly analogy? Hmmmm... The apple tree is involved, the potato is committed |
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Champion ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by mcmanusclan5 Yanti - glad you Manateed up and DEEEED EEEEET! You can never have too much fun (but glad you came close). Congrats to you both! I actually rode yesterday for the first time since the move (got my bike from the shop in the morning - had sheared the OTHER aero bar, but all good now - and replace them with CARBON, BABY!). Hit 104* going up one of the longer hills. Was, ummmm.... warm. Glad to have one week of running/swimming and at least my first TX ride behind me. Wasn't the Hotter than Hell Hundred (nice job Jonathan!!!!! My enduring respect for that one), but was good to get at least one of all three workouts in a single week. Wow, it's weird to be excited about that level of "achievement," but it's all part of the road back. Hope everyone had a great weekend of RACING (WOOT), workouts and fun times. Matt Lol - I made that same mistake and then my first ride with friends was 55 miles and had 3100ft of climbing... pretty much the opposite of flat!!
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Science Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66 Good on ya for getting back to the pool. I have been having an ongoing discussion with Janyne on this type of thing. I am consistently impressed with her, and Adrienne's, and Ben's training. It is so consistent and focused. We know Adrienne's commitment to running. For Ben it seems like biking has been the primary thing this summer, while for Janyne, there is obviously a preparation for an upcoming IM distance event. But for all of them, there is a level of commitment that is a challenge for many of us to reach. And I believe that the commitment is more of a mental challenge than a physical one. Not to belittle the physical challenge, since that aspect is very real. But the mental aspect of the daily grind is not to be taken lightly. I know it is a commitment that I am unable to make right now, due to the realities of my life. Having said that, I also think if I want to make an improvement that this is the one area that I really have to address first. I would have to balance my expectations and my desires with what my life has available to me to figure out the commitment that I can make to improving. Am I willing to make the sacrifices that I need to in order to gain the results I am after? I'm not sure I can get to the level of dedication that would be necessary for the improvement to be shown. I am reminded of the old southern fable of involvement in breakfast preparation. The chicken is involved in breakfast, but the pig shows commitment! I'm torn. I think that if I was in better physical shape, the mental aspects of commitment would be easier. Then again, if I was more mentally committed, it would get easier physically. I know I go in phases. Right now, if I was seriously committed to training every day, I would end up angry and upset. It's not realistic right now with our family schedule and having a toddler. Also I feel terrible and think I need to increase my thyroid dose, so I feel awful. |
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Science Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Related to this commitment/consistency discussion: I am going to try to run at least a mile every day for 30 days. I started on Friday. I'm already dreading getting out the door tonight, but I need to do something to try to get some mojo back. |
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Master ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Artemis Related to this commitment/consistency discussion: I am going to try to run at least a mile every day for 30 days. I started on Friday. I'm already dreading getting out the door tonight, but I need to do something to try to get some mojo back. So tomorrow we should ask you about today's run? Tell us more about the Hogwarts Run Club. |
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Science Nerd ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by jmkizer Originally posted by Artemis Related to this commitment/consistency discussion: I am going to try to run at least a mile every day for 30 days. I started on Friday. I'm already dreading getting out the door tonight, but I need to do something to try to get some mojo back. So tomorrow we should ask you about today's run? Tell us more about the Hogwarts Run Club. Yes. Please do! Hogwarts Run Club: it's a Facebook group that has virtual races. They are usually $25. You get a medal and a customized bib. You can run the whole distance in one sitting or break it up. For me, it's a good motivation technique. I want to run so I actually earn my medal. I am running the last 1.75k of the Platform 9 3/4 9.75k on September 1 with a friend. We both did the Body Back class together and have been trying to work in more cardio. |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by cdban66
I have been having an ongoing discussion with Janyne on this type of thing. I am consistently impressed with her, and Adrienne's, and Ben's training. It is so consistent and focused. We know Adrienne's commitment to running. For Ben it seems like biking has been the primary thing this summer, while for Janyne, there is obviously a preparation for an upcoming IM distance event. But for all of them, there is a level of commitment that is a challenge for many of us to reach. And I believe that the commitment is more of a mental challenge than a physical one. Not to belittle the physical challenge, since that aspect is very real. But the mental aspect of the daily grind is not to be taken lightly. I know it is a commitment that I am unable to make right now, due to the realities of my life. Having said that, I also think if I want to make an improvement that this is the one area that I really have to address first. I would have to balance my expectations and my desires with what my life has available to me to figure out the commitment that I can make to improving. Am I willing to make the sacrifices that I need to in order to gain the results I am after? I'm not sure I can get to the level of dedication that would be necessary for the improvement to be shown. I am reminded of the old southern fable of involvement in breakfast preparation. The chicken is involved in breakfast, but the pig shows commitment! I'd say the majority of the limitations I have are physical. I work very hard but lack some of the natural talent some of my peers have. So, I have to work that much harder. And one can only run so many miles in a day while working full time and having a life outside of training. In addition to it being physically exhausting to keep it all going, you have uncontrollable limitations like hours in a day, needing to sleep etc. On the mental side, I, much like Ben really enjoy what I am doing. So, other than the mental taxation of planning out my week and fitting it all in I don't find myself having to use too much mental strength to get out the door. Of course, there are times during a really hard workout or when maybe you went on a pub crawl and then had to wake up to run 20 miles (just an example heh heh) where you have to summon a little will to put one foot in front of the other, but that is less common. Edited by Asalzwed 2014-08-25 1:49 PM |
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![]() | ![]() Originally posted by Artemis Related to this commitment/consistency discussion: I am going to try to run at least a mile every day for 30 days. I started on Friday. I'm already dreading getting out the door tonight, but I need to do something to try to get some mojo back. That's awesome! Such a good way to kick start your training |
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Veteran ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | ![]() Originally posted by rrrunner Originally posted by 4agoodlife Originally posted by cdban66 Or: Hmmmm....while I "get it", can you think of a more vegetarian-friendly analogy? Hmmmm... The apple tree is involved, the potato is committed For the win. |
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