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2009-02-25 11:48 PM
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Adam0778 - 2009-02-25 7:48 PM

I did not join this challenge, due to being absent for a while.  However, I have recently started logging my nutrition.  I have never done that before and man it's quite an eye opening experience.  I never realized how many calories are in EVERYTHING.  WTF!  I mean really man, what is the deal with everything being loaded with garbage!  Well anyway, I have been watching this thread and have been inspired (as well as amused) to log it all.  Just thought I would drop in and give my two sense worth.   



Do you want in Adam? I can add you.

Glad that you are finding it eye opening. Gosh those calories just jump out of no where huh? I too think its been so helpful!

I will weigh in tomorrow to see if logging for a week has made any kind of impact. I sure FEEL better.


2009-02-26 7:50 AM
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Adam0778 - 2009-02-25 7:48 PM

I did not join this challenge, due to being absent for a while.  However, I have recently started logging my nutrition.  I have never done that before and man it's quite an eye opening experience.  I never realized how many calories are in EVERYTHING.  WTF!  I mean really man, what is the deal with everything being loaded with garbage!  Well anyway, I have been watching this thread and have been inspired (as well as amused) to log it all.  Just thought I would drop in and give my two sense worth.   

Do you want in Adam? I can add you. Glad that you are finding it eye opening. Gosh those calories just jump out of no where huh? I too think its been so helpful! I will weigh in tomorrow to see if logging for a week has made any kind of impact. I sure FEEL better.

Totally!  If it's not to late, I would love to get in on it.  I will have to go back to the start of the thread and read the rules and all that good stuff, but I am down for challenge.  I have been feeling much better since tracking my calories.  I found just the smallest changes make the biggest difference.  I make my own lunches and found that by only having one slice of cheese cut like 150calories.  And that raisin bran is actually good for you, but not if you eat a pile of it.  Measuring cups have become my friends! Ya, new friends!!!!  Sign me up, Thanks Jen.

2009-02-26 7:10 PM
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Is there a way for food log to display the amount of sugar consumed? I really would like to keep better track of sugar more than anything else.....
2009-02-26 8:42 PM
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mm5093 - 2009-02-26 5:10 PM Is there a way for food log to display the amount of sugar consumed? I really would like to keep better track of sugar more than anything else.....

Milton , if you use the "custom food" option there is a spot that you can log the sugar.  I have been watching that pretty close as well.  My Dad has diabetes and I already have a reaction to sugar.  Happy logging!

2009-02-27 12:47 AM
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Hey guys! It is GREAT that you are logging sugar (Milton go into your control panel and you can select graphing features for sugar as well!)

As someone who is Insulin Resistant (IR - often referred to as pre-diabetes) most seminars, articles, doctors, etc tell me that CARBS are just as important as watching your sugars.In fact the diets that are most popular among diabetics are diets such as South Beach, Zone, etc. Atkins used to be hugely popular. Processed carbs/ now commonly referred to as "bad carbs" or "white carbs" are turned straight to sugar in our body, they cause an increase in insulin production. That rise and fall of insulin is what makes you feel crummy, sugar highs and lows. An influx of glucose is released to the bloodstream, causing a sharp spike in blood sugar. Higher quantities of insulin are released (or needed via medication) to counteract this surge and achieve normal blood sugar levels. This excess of glucose can be burned up very quickly, causing a crash immediately after. That's why we LOVE our energy gels DURING competition when our body can USE this extra surge. But when it is not used, we just feel like crappola!


All carbohydrates are sugars , although we do not normally call them that, but differentiate between those that taste sweet, which we call 'sugar', and those that don't, which we call 'starch'. As athletes carbs are MORE important than for many - but you have to be extra careful with the carbs you choose. This probably is not news to you - and the BT logging should weight the sugars found in carbohydrates.

The glycemic index of foods is VERY helpful in knowing which carbs will cause that sharp spike or a more slow release.

Other important factors in controlling blood sugar:
- Do not skip meals or snacks
- eat small meals throughout the day
- eat your meals and snacks about the same times each day
- eat about the same amount of carbohydrate foods each day
- exercise at about the same times each day (yeah I dont follow that one!)
2009-02-27 12:53 AM
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POLICE REPORT 2/25 - 2/26

WOW!!! I know everyone is crazy busy so I hate to point this out but a TON of people did not log today!!!

Sorry kids...

You are tagged with a

VIOLATION!!!

You must immediately change your avatar to "Failed" for 48 hours.

2/25
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2/26
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SO SAD, all my GIRLS!!!

*Your food log is set to private so I cannot see whether or not you are logging. PLEASE reset it so I can check and remove you from the list lady!


2009-02-27 7:40 AM
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Damn! I was hoping to sneak it in today, but you caught me!
2009-02-27 8:47 AM
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i'll do it as soon as i get a chance. just got too busy yesterday!
2009-02-27 8:54 AM
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Adam0778 - 2009-02-26 6:42 PM

mm5093 - 2009-02-26 5:10 PM Is there a way for food log to display the amount of sugar consumed? I really would like to keep better track of sugar more than anything else.....

Milton , if you use the "custom food" option there is a spot that you can log the sugar.  I have been watching that pretty close as well.  My Dad has diabetes and I already have a reaction to sugar.  Happy logging!

Thanks sportyj and adm, that helps alot...  HAppy eating...  Go Boys, ooops wrong thread.

2009-02-27 8:56 AM
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I logged everything...didn't know it had to be "not private". :>P
2009-02-27 9:21 AM
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sportyj - 2009-02-26 10:47 PM Hey guys! It is GREAT that you are logging sugar (Milton go into your control panel and you can select graphing features for sugar as well!) As someone who is Insulin Resistant (IR - often referred to as pre-diabetes) most seminars, articles, doctors, etc tell me that CARBS are just as important as watching your sugars.In fact the diets that are most popular among diabetics are diets such as South Beach, Zone, etc. Atkins used to be hugely popular. Processed carbs/ now commonly referred to as "bad carbs" or "white carbs" are turned straight to sugar in our body, they cause an increase in insulin production. That rise and fall of insulin is what makes you feel crummy, sugar highs and lows. An influx of glucose is released to the bloodstream, causing a sharp spike in blood sugar. Higher quantities of insulin are released (or needed via medication) to counteract this surge and achieve normal blood sugar levels. 

Wow thanks Jen.  Maybe I need to visit the Dr. and be checked for IR.  I do not have diabtes but my body reacts very negatively to sugar intake, and now that you mention it I have similar reactions to a carb heavy meal.  Wow!  I had all kinds of blood work done right around Christmas (they suspected cancer) and none of those test were bad.  Just showed I was dehydrated (and that I brought my Cholesteral down, naturally!)  But they were not looking for Diabetes or any related issues.  Things that make you go HMMMMM. 

Thanks for info Jen!  



2009-02-27 10:02 AM
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sportyj - 2009-02-26 11:53 PM POLICE REPORT 2/25 - 2/26 WOW!!! I know everyone is crazy busy so I hate to point this out but a TON of people did not log today!!! Sorry kids... You are tagged with a VIOLATION!!! You must immediately change your avatar to "Failed" for 48 hours. 2/25 Javamom* t.k.dteacher 2/26 Standswithfist KTriathlete Javamom* t.k.dteacher SO SAD, all my GIRLS!!! *Your food log is set to private so I cannot see whether or not you are logging. PLEASE reset it so I can check and remove you from the list lady!

As much as i suck, I am surprised that I have missed the police report so far!  However, that said - I now have a week in of tracking and think that awareness only counts when changes are made.  Time to step up the tracking with a caloric decrease!

2009-02-27 10:28 AM
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2009-02-27 11:00 AM
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I'm back on track today and second what Jerry said. Time to actually monitor what is going in my mouth! Good calories, fats, etc. vs. the bad.
2009-02-27 11:23 AM
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StandsWithFist - 2009-02-27 6:40 AM

Damn! I was hoping to sneak it in today, but you caught me!


You were SOL with me being up late last night. You're right though, with you being in here earlier MOST days you prbably could sneak it by!!!

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2009-02-27 11:29 AM
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Adam0778 - 2009-02-27 8:21 AM

sportyj - 2009-02-26 10:47 PM Hey guys! It is GREAT that you are logging sugar (Milton go into your control panel and you can select graphing features for sugar as well!) As someone who is Insulin Resistant (IR - often referred to as pre-diabetes) most seminars, articles, doctors, etc tell me that CARBS are just as important as watching your sugars.In fact the diets that are most popular among diabetics are diets such as South Beach, Zone, etc. Atkins used to be hugely popular. Processed carbs/ now commonly referred to as "bad carbs" or "white carbs" are turned straight to sugar in our body, they cause an increase in insulin production. That rise and fall of insulin is what makes you feel crummy, sugar highs and lows. An influx of glucose is released to the bloodstream, causing a sharp spike in blood sugar. Higher quantities of insulin are released (or needed via medication) to counteract this surge and achieve normal blood sugar levels. 

Wow thanks Jen.  Maybe I need to visit the Dr. and be checked for IR.  I do not have diabtes but my body reacts very negatively to sugar intake, and now that you mention it I have similar reactions to a carb heavy meal.  Wow!  I had all kinds of blood work done right around Christmas (they suspected cancer) and none of those test were bad.  Just showed I was dehydrated (and that I brought my Cholesteral down, naturally!)  But they were not looking for Diabetes or any related issues.  Things that make you go HMMMMM. 

Thanks for info Jen!  



Little more info about IR:
http://diabetes.niddk.nih.gov/DM/pubs/insulinresistance/

For blood work a fasting glucose test will be used, as well as a glucose tolerance if your doc desires - YUCK. I doubt these were part of the panel your doc called for is he suspected cancer (SCARY!) But would be worth checking if they have already done one.


2009-02-27 12:10 PM
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I am going to be out of town with no computer for two days of the challenge....how will that work? I have to put failed? Wah! ;>

I need to make sure I am shooting for the right number of calories. Anyone know a good way to determine that? My last guestimate came from the gym trainer.

Without actual testing, it's always a guesstimate, but here's a calculator for basal metabolism:

http://www.dmafitness.com/samp_weight.htm

 

And here is a pretty comprehensive list of calorie counts for activities:

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

Figure it, add it, weep! :D

John 

Excuse my stupidity but help me out here. I went to the first website and figured out my BMR is 1397.15 calories. It gave me different #s depending on my activity level. But if I go to the second website and look up what I did (funny just about everything I would do ie bike 12-13.9 mph, 1 hour swim or 1 hour run at 5MPH for a 155 lbs person is 563 calories burned). Should if I did one of those activities I then add that to the 1397.15? So my calories for the day should be 1960? Would this be if I want to lose or maintain? I know there is no perfect answer but thought I would try. Thanks

2009-02-27 12:45 PM
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craftyazgal - 2009-02-27 11:10 AM
tkd.teacher - 2009-02-19 3:47 PM
Javamom - 2009-02-19 1:57 PM

I am going to be out of town with no computer for two days of the challenge....how will that work? I have to put failed? Wah! ;>

I need to make sure I am shooting for the right number of calories. Anyone know a good way to determine that? My last guestimate came from the gym trainer.

Without actual testing, it's always a guesstimate, but here's a calculator for basal metabolism:

http://www.dmafitness.com/samp_weight.htm

 

And here is a pretty comprehensive list of calorie counts for activities:

http://www.nutristrategy.com/activitylist4.htm

Figure it, add it, weep! :D

John

Excuse my stupidity but help me out here. I went to the first website and figured out my BMR is 1397.15 calories. It gave me different #s depending on my activity level. But if I go to the second website and look up what I did (funny just about everything I would do ie bike 12-13.9 mph, 1 hour swim or 1 hour run at 5MPH for a 155 lbs person is 563 calories burned). Should if I did one of those activities I then add that to the 1397.15? So my calories for the day should be 1960? Would this be if I want to lose or maintain? I know there is no perfect answer but thought I would try. Thanks

The activity levels are from the Harris Benedict equation.

  1. If you are sedentary (little or no exercise) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.2
  2. If you are lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.375
  3. If you are moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.55
  4. If you are very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.725
  5. If you are extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) : Calorie-Calculation = BMR x 1.9

For BMR, there are a couple formulas that are different for boys/girls.

Women (metric) = 655 + (9.6 * weight in kg) + (1.8 * height in cm) - (4.7 * age)
Women (english) = 655 + (4.35 * weight in lbs) + (4.7 * height in in) - (4.7 * age)
Men (metric) = 66 + (13.7 * weight in kg) + (5 * height in cm) - (6.8 * age)
Men (english) = 66 + (6.23 * weight in lbs) + (12.7 * height in in) - (6.8 * age)

Calculate your BMR off the above formula, then add in any activities you do such as swimming. That should be the # of calories that you need in a day to maintain weight.

500 extra calories a day = ~ 1 lb per week of gain. 500 less a day = ~ 1 lb per week of loss. (3500 calories equals a lb).

So if your BMR is 1400 (sedentary, rounded for simplicity), and you do 560 cals worth of  activity, your needs for the day are 1960.

John 

2009-02-27 2:18 PM
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CAKE!!!!!
2009-02-27 3:12 PM
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MILTON REPEAT AFTER ME NO CAKE FOR MILTON. Do you want to try to find that and log it in? What a pain. The cake isn't worth it. Take 2 bites and then squirt ketchup all over it.
2009-02-27 3:14 PM
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John - thanks for the help. I'll play with that some this week.

I just resisted chocolate and had 20 cashews instead. I also decided that a green tea was so not worth 160 calories. I have home made pizza planned for tonight.



2009-02-27 3:34 PM
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craftyazgal - 2009-02-27 2:14 PM

John - thanks for the help. I'll play with that some this week.

I just resisted chocolate and had 20 cashews instead. I also decided that a green tea was so not worth 160 calories. I have home made pizza planned for tonight.



What kind of GREEN TEA are you drinking lady? Correction: NOT drinking

But awesome job on the chocolate resistance.
2009-02-27 5:06 PM
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craftyazgal - 2009-02-27 2:14 PM

John - thanks for the help. I'll play with that some this week.

I just resisted chocolate and had 20 cashews instead. I also decided that a green tea was so not worth 160 calories. I have home made pizza planned for tonight.

Admittedly it's better calories and you get the nut oil (Not that you need more of THAT...)

But...

1 tbsp dry roasted cashews, no salt = 49 calories. I'm thinking 20 cashews is probably enough for at least 4 tbsps.

John 

2009-02-27 6:50 PM
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tkd.teacher - 2009-02-27 5:06 PM
craftyazgal - 2009-02-27 2:14 PM

John - thanks for the help. I'll play with that some this week.

I just resisted chocolate and had 20 cashews instead. I also decided that a green tea was so not worth 160 calories. I have home made pizza planned for tonight.

Admittedly it's better calories and you get the nut oil (Not that you need more of THAT...)

But...

1 tbsp dry roasted cashews, no salt = 49 calories. I'm thinking 20 cashews is probably enough for at least 4 tbsps.

John 

Close. I got the nutrition info off the broker's container so I could correctly log it tonight.

1 oz=20 pieces. 170 calories, 14 grams fat, 8 carbs and 5 protein.

2009-02-27 7:01 PM
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craftyazgal - 2009-02-27 5:50 PM

tkd.teacher - 2009-02-27 5:06 PM
craftyazgal - 2009-02-27 2:14 PM

John - thanks for the help. I'll play with that some this week.

I just resisted chocolate and had 20 cashews instead. I also decided that a green tea was so not worth 160 calories. I have home made pizza planned for tonight.

Admittedly it's better calories and you get the nut oil (Not that you need more of THAT...)

But...

1 tbsp dry roasted cashews, no salt = 49 calories. I'm thinking 20 cashews is probably enough for at least 4 tbsps.

John 

Close. I got the nutrition info off the broker's container so I could correctly log it tonight.

1 oz=20 pieces. 170 calories, 14 grams fat, 8 carbs and 5 protein.



Nuts make a great snack!
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