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2011-03-19 10:26 PM
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Man...I can't keep up with you guys! LOL Posts just pile up here in no time.

Anyhow..my son's birthday party was today with 12 kids going crazy at the Y. Tomorrow is his actual birthday (8) and I expect it to be another long day Today, one of his little friends asked me how old I was...hmmmm, I asked her what do you mean? do I look like a grandma or somehting? she shrugged and said 'i dunno' to which I answered, "yeah, I'm 65 like a gramma'. UGH...I've got a couple of years til I hit 50 but dang! she made me feel ancient. But then again, I've got at least a decade on most of their moms so I do look older than most mom's they see I suppose.

Anyhow...back to business - George I signed up for Bronze my first go around with membership. That was about 5 years ago. I then let it lapse and eventually signed up again for Silver for more plans and being able to see more stuff like videos etc.. and then this year with a special on pricing I went to Gold simply for the available coaching aspect. I suppose I'm not utilizing my gold membership very well as I get lots of info on the forums or here in this group. I also like to support BT because this site has helped me on so many levels. But I will likely go back to Silver or Bronze once the Gold expires. 

I saw some chitchat on cadence, one leg drills and standing on a trainer. My take is that cadence alone is nothing. Fast spinning legs does not necessarily mean speed...it's cadence plus intensity (or resistance) that will translate to power. And it takes time to develop smooth pedal strokes ---with one legged drills- make sure the resistance is not too high so as to make your legs choppy but think of pulling those knees up to the handlebars, pushing forward and down, then keeping those feet relatively flat as you pass '6 o'clock' and scrape that mud off the bottom of your feet, to then pull up that pedal engaging your hamstring. Think smooth circles with those feet like the wheels of a locomotive. For standing, it takes time to build leg strength. I teach spin and I tell my students that when we do take it standing to keep the center of gravity back and over your feet to gain the most strength and leverage. Many people move too far forward over the handlebars . Granted outside and depending on the grade of the hill, it's natural to move slightly more forward but it still remains that we gain power by driving our legs over our pedals vs using our arms over the handle bars. And relax...leave the energy in your legs, keep your arms, shoulders, wrists relaxed...breathe deeply and rhythmically and relax your toes (when I get stressed racing I tend to curl my toes). 

Anyhow... I gotta get some shut eye. And I've gone way off my 'no ice cream' diet...double dose of cake and ice cream today



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2011-03-20 10:35 AM
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ELLEN -

A bit more about standing and pedaling smoothly:
1.) Get in your big ring and maybe your second of largest cog; you should find it hard to have any counter-pressure to work against, so your feet and legs are going faster than you want.
2.) Now shift to the next smallest cog and see how that feels. And keep doing that until you find the one that is the best balance for you, right at this point in time.
3.) Just by way of comparison, go to the smallest cog -- it should feel like a real slog, a grind to end all grinds. And then work back the other way; hopefuly you'll find that going in that direction ends you up at about the same cog as you did coming the other way.
4.) It might be, too, that you'll have to keep working at this to develop that sense of smoothness. You could well be in the correct gearing, but it just isn't as smooth for you yet as it if for the people in the Spinervals.
5.) Play around with body position, too. Wel I'm trying to aggressively climb out-of-the-saddle, I'm out over the front about as far as I can get. My emlbows are bent some (I will check out my exact positioning later; like other stuff, I know what to do when I need to do it.....but when not there I have trouble picturing it all perfectly).

You're very determined about this, which is a good thing!!


2011-03-20 11:01 AM
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ELLEN again -

I have three wheel sets: race day, training, and an old set that is indoors only. I have occasionally used the training wheels on the trainer, but just to minimize wear and tear on them I do this only one or two times an off-season. This season it hasn't happened, I'm kind of proud to say!

Race day flats are a terrible thing! I've told you that I had a horrific one at Columbia '05, and for various reasons it took me about 20 minutes to change and get going again. The one this past season at West Point, which was an "A" race for me, also was bothersoke -- maybe about 10 minutes. Argh!! The third race one I had also presented problems, and because I was dancing with some injury, I just bailed on the race at the point at which the length of the change was going to kill any chances for a decent race.

Jeff is right, though, that with practice and if the Tire Lever and CO2 gods are being benevolent, it can be done in a few minutes (add several minutes for back wheel flats). The month before my first half-iron in '01 coincidd with Jane looking at colleges before her senior year, so we spent several days driving around the northeast and staying in motles. Each night I brought my wheels in with me and practiced changing flats, over and over and over, and I guess that was worth doing. I get a few each year it seems, with most being rear ones. Grrr! I take good care of my wheels and inflate very regularly, but........

Get comfy with the CO2 cartridges -- what a great invention! Frame pumps are okay, but I think relaisticallyb they add 3 or 4 minutes to a change just because of how many pumps you need to get an inflation that won't risk a subsequent "pinch" flat. And, this is why regular inflating is so critical. If your current tires can handle a maximum of 120psi, then I think once you get below 90 you run a strong risk of getting a pinch flat. JEFF?

Most CO2 cartridges come with a plastic sheath that keeps your hand away from the cold of the cartridge once it is used, but the coldness is not a serious problem and not using the sheath is just one less small step to hassle with. Having said that, though, I dutifully used the plastic thingy for the first couple of years I was doing CO2. And carry 2 or 3 cartridges with you, as it is fairly easy to goof up with one and need a second (as happened to me at West Point). Of course, in my clutzy world if I can goof up with one I can goof up with two....which is why I usually carry three! Finally, check out sizing. Cartridges come in two sizes, with the smaller one probably not enough for your wheels. It would give you a partail fill that would allow you to ride again, but you would risk a pinch flat. Larger are 16 grams, and smaller are 12 grams, I believe.

Finally, I change out my tubes at at least once a year, whether they've suffered a flat or not. If they are in there for too long they can stick to the inner walls of the tire, and then if they get a bit friable they can tear. Also, if they stick and then get flatted, they can be a nuisance to remove in a hurry. And, I never patch my tubes, partly because I don't trust myself to do it so there won't be a subsequent problem, but also because tubes are inexpensive enough that getting something new and uncompromised juts works for my state of mind!


2011-03-20 11:03 AM
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JEFF -

Nice brick! We're back to sub-40 here, so unless I feel like riding cold, I won't be outside again until next weekend at the earliest. Rats.

Be careful with the sunburning!


2011-03-20 11:21 AM
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stevebradley - 2011-03-20 11:01 AM ELLEN again - .... Get comfy with the CO2 cartridges -- what a great invention! Frame pumps are okay, but I think relaisticallyb they add 3 or 4 minutes to a change just because of how many pumps you need to get an inflation that won't risk a subsequent "pinch" flat. And, this is why regular inflating is so critical. If your current tires can handle a maximum of 120psi, then I think once you get below 90 you run a strong risk of getting a pinch flat. JEFF? 

I agree, the highest pressure the tire is rated for. I used to do "allot" of commuting and ultra distance cycling-night and day all kids of weather. I switched to Specialized Armadillos. They are very durable flat resistant tires. They don't ride as nice or corner as well as others but I don't do crits anymore anyway. When I start getting flats frequently and very close it is usually a sign it is time to replace the tire, assuming you rule out other causes like bad rim tape.

Re: Co2-great stuff! However on long rides away from civilization, I carry a small pump as back up. I once went through 4 cartridges and ended up walking quite a way! Not fun

clomping along on speedplay cleats in July in Texas.

Practice that back tire change. It isn't that bad. Shift to the smallest cog first, many frames have a "chain hanger" on the seat stay-just a tiny button brazed to it that you can hang the chain from as you remove the wheel from the drop outs-makes life easier. My Litespeed doesn't have it, I miss that. Open the presta valve all the way to let whatever air remains out, you should only need to remove the tire half way, but inspect it closely for a piece of glass or whatever lodged in it. run your fingers along the rim tape to look for protruding spokes and then slip the new tube in side, partially inflate it, with your mouth works even and remount it. Look for the tube pinched by the tire and rim! Seat the tire carefully and inflate. You may need to use that little nut that came with the tube, maybe not.

2011-03-20 12:00 PM
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Steve and Jeff,

I know this sounds silly but I never thought about practicing changing a tire.  I especially like the part about doing it in the dark under a sprinkler.  But Jeff, you are so right, that that is when it will happen.  I am going to do it once per wheel soon. I always thought it would be good to take a class at a bike shop but I never seem to be available when they are given.  I have watched You Tube videos but that can't take the place of the real thing. I guess it is like those swimming videos, after you watch you actually have to go to a pool and swim.

I just called the bike shop to check on another set of wheels for the trainer.  It wasn't such a problem before since I wasn't using it very often.  They are more than willing to set me up.  Fancy that!!! Good thing I have that part time teaching gig.

Thanks.

Ellen

 

 

 

 



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Zam92 - 2011-03-20 12:00 PM

Steve and Jeff,

I know this sounds silly but I never thought about practicing changing a tire.  I especially like the part about doing it in the dark under a sprinkler.  But Jeff, you are so right, that that is when it will happen.    

That was actually meant "tongue in cheek"

2011-03-20 6:40 PM
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Well you could have said something before I flooded the garage.  Nah, we went to a friend's house for dinner so I have not had a chance to flood the garage. WHEW!!
2011-03-20 7:18 PM
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Added some interior pics of "My Little Tow" in my album, looking forward to my long run later. Busy day, plumbing repair for my in laws and some cabinet work on the trailer
2011-03-21 5:37 AM
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Good Morning Everyone,

Well I finally signed up for 3 races.  This saturday Im running the Azalea Trail Run here in Mobile which is a 10k and 5k.  Im just doing the 5k.  Then on 4/2 in Pointe Clear, Al which is about 45 - 1hour away im doing a 21.4 bike race and finally I signed up for my first Sprint Tri on 6/4 The Grandman Tri in Fairhope Al which is about 45 min away.  I also 2 other races that I plan to do but have not signed up for before June and they are 8k I will do on 4/9 and a 5k that me and my son will run on 5/14 which is a trail run.  Happy Training and I hope everyone has a great day.

2011-03-21 7:10 AM
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ELLEN -

Another set of wheels won't hurt (except your budget), but mostly it's about keeping the tires sound, and not bald. I try to race in Vittoria Open Corsa EVO-CX tires, which are supposedly more puncture-resistant. I say "try to" because they are no longer easy to get in Canada, and if I'm in a pinch (as it were.....) and need a new tire, then I go with the best option at my LBS. I just checkedc my race wheels and that's where I'm at right now --- two tires that are not V.O.C. EVO-CX.

The "thread count" (I think that's the term) is higher for the more puncture-resistant tires, so there's a trade-off in weight. I think you know how much of a big deal is made of weight and racing, but I'm not going to quiblle about the extra micro-ounce or so of having more thtreads in my tires --- at least not with my history of flats! Of course, "puncture-resistant" is about the same as "water-resistant" in clothing, which mostly means that the inevitable is somewhat delayed or minimized, is all.

But, it's worth it for my peace of mind to pay the extra (both weight, and cost) for good tires. The ones I mentioned above are maybe about $80 each, whereas to come down a step or two brings me to $55, maybe? I guess I'd better go tire-shopping again so I can speak with authority about the costs. I'll mention that to Lynn.

LOTS of pactice will get it so you don't make an ungodly mess of yourself in doing a change. Jeff mentioned that some bikes have a little hanger thing for the chain, which means you handle it less and don't get so gunky. My Cervelo doesn't have one, but I eventually figured out how to do an index-finger-only manipulation of the chain so that that's the only part of me that gets greasy. (I'll show you that at Nation's!)

And the second way to not make a mess of yourself is to regularly clean and re-lube the chain. In the same way that your car's oil should be golden, or at least not sludgy-black, once youir chain gets sludgy-black it's time for a cleaning. In-season I clean mine once a week, at least, and even a bit more frequently when the weather is lousy and I've picked up more grit and grime from the roads.

Blah, blah, blah!




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GEORGE -

Well done with them there races!! I especially like the timing oif the first two --- a run one the first week, and a bike week the next week. That's a good way to mess around with intensity at each without having to worry about putting the two of them together att he tail end of a tri! (Now all you have to do is find an open-water swim race the weekend after the bike race in Pointe Clear!

I will check out the Grandman Tri soon. I love living vicariously through other people's races!!


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JEFF -

Thata's a very nifty-looking unit! Well, that's just based on the exterior photos, as the interior ones didn't come up on my computer; maybe later? The ones that are there are three of M.L.T, one of your plaque....and one of you. The latter is a good one; you ought to get it up on your posts!

You might want to try to find the following article from the Feb 24 New York Times. It was the lead story in the Home section, and is titled "The $200 Microhouse". The author is Joyce Wadler. I am sure you have more than enough wherewithal to build something along the lines of what Derek Diedricksen has created on his property in Stoughton, MA.

How was the long run?



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SARAH -

Great post from a few days ago! All of your cadence info was valuable.....and your comment about getting the weight too far forward got me to thinking about my own position, which I think I mentioned in one of my posts to Ellen. I guess that position works for me because I have an extra-long torso, plus simian-like arms; I think it's both easy and comfortable for me to get "out" there.

You're very right about spiining in and of itself being nothing, with the extreme example of this being when you try riding in the small ring and the big cog, and there's nothing to reisist, and the legs are doing 128rpm and getting nowhere. I like to think of the benefits of spinning coming when it really succeeds in opening up a wide range of high-cadence options --- maybe over the breadth of about 12 gearing combinations? (I will check this later to see how many cominations I can comfortably maintain at 90+.)

Someone once told me that it takes about five years of serious riding to become a strong cyclist, and that was about the timeline for me. (That's still a more user-friendly timeline for competency than the one I'm currently - forever and anon? - wading through for swimming! )

What I've found interesting about high-cadence cycling is that the penalties are not as great when the form begins to fall apart, at least as compared with running. When high cadence running falls apart, injuries can result; when it falls apart in swimming.....you can go backwards!) I guess with cycling the penalty is more insidious, being a creeping (stampeding?) fatigue that suddenly seems to envelope you. That's where those wild efforts of fast legs and no resistance come into it, yes?

I shall return!

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SARAH again -

I too have not used Gold at all well. The videos are lost on me because of our dial-up system, and I just haven't had time to use that forum. And, I am still pretty committed to patching together my own program, so all the plans don't really help me much, either. I have, however, delved into them for suggestions for other people, so three's at least one plus. Maybe I should reorient my thinking so I make better use of Gold!

Congrats on surviving the birthday party. Tough gig, birthdays during those years, especially with boys. At that age they have the attention span of fruit flies.................and come to think of it, that doesn't really improve until they're maybe mid-30s, yes? (If then, even...)



Two years ago daughter Jane sent me an e-card (from "someecards") that read:
"Here's to another year of complete disregard for age-appropriate developmental milestones."

She knows me so well! When my students used to ask me my age, I'd always give some variation along the lines of "I'll just tell you that I try to act 17 years younger than half my age".........and let them try to judge my behavior AND do the math to get close to what they thought it should be!

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SARAH once more -

And as for that kid who made the "I dunno" comment ---- better just hope that the freindship they share as eight-year-olds doesn't evolve into her becoming your daughter-in-law in another 18 years or so!








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2011-03-21 8:34 AM
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For those of you out there who have not used CO2 to fill a tire here is a helpful site.  He talks about the things Steve mentioned.

http://www.dcrainmaker.com/2008/08/how-to-use-co2-for-cycling-beginners.html

2011-03-21 10:07 AM
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Well I missed my Thursday spin class Kathy wasn't feeling up to snuff and my Friday run because I was to busy at work to take an hour lunch. On the up side we went to visit my daughter and family in Salem Friday evening and Saturday we went up to the local tri store in Portland and I bought a sausage casing wetsuit. I'm looking forward to doing some open water swims in the not to distant future.
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Hey all,

  Seems like everyone is training well... I have finally gotten back in the saddle here so to speak... I have done my training for 3 out of 4 days (Friday is my off day) and have my training plan for tonight.   Hour spin followed by pool time.  

I did get out yesterday morning for a mile run/walk on the high school track.  My hip seems to be ok so I guess that treadmill running is out and I will have to get outside to run.  It wasn't too bad, only 36 degrees so dressing appropriately is important.  It has been snowing here this morning so not sure I am up for more outside running until it is consistently 50 or so...   don't know how you all get out there and run when it is cold.  

Can't wait until it is warm enough to get the bike out... inside training on the bike is so tedious... My bike fitting went well.. higher saddle height and a bit more length and rise in the stem seems to have done the trick..

Well back to work... good training to everyone.

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Been going crazy trying to sign up for the race I wanna do in June.  Its challenging 'cause everything is in Chinese.  It is always listed on the sites I search for races on (well, most of them) but there is no link or number to call.

I finally found out today, after called a couple other RD's and a triathlon shop (which I've really gotta go check out) that they haven't even opened registration yet.  I dunno, race is 6/19th, is it normal in North America to open registration so late?  After a lot of asking around, its seems most races in Taiwan open their sites around 3 months prior to race day.

Anyway, my brother and his girlfriend arrive in Taiwan 4 weeks before the race, so they will be coming with.  Gonna make it a bit of a family trip.  Really looking forward to it.  A second race down south that opens for registration about a week after this race happens... already looking at it for a possible third race.

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Hey Gang!
Just checking in. It's been a pretty slow couple of weeks as I am tapering for a Sprint this weekend (Sunday). Weather has turned pretty nice here recently but unfortunately I spent most of this weekend getting the yard in order. I'm still a little sore from digging ditches all day yesterday. I did get to swim with the little one this weekend after my training and we had a blast....she is a little fish now! Back to work I must go but I'll definately check back in after my race on Sunday and post race results, etc.

I can't wait to get this season started. I've already triple-checked my "packing list" and the race is still 6 days away!

David


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Hey David, good luck on your race this Sunday.
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Good Luck David!  I'm sure you'll do great!
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Good luck David!

Question for the group... sore shins... after my outdoor mile my shins are really sore.  They didn't bother me during my run/walk but yesterday and today they are very sore.  I did a 30 min walk on the treadmill today which wasn't too painful but want to be careful not to start a problem... any advice?

 

Thanks,

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Good luck David!

Question for the group... sore shins... after my outdoor mile my shins are really sore.  They didn't bother me during my run/walk but yesterday and today they are very sore.  I did a 30 min walk on the treadmill today which wasn't too painful but want to be careful not to start a problem... any advice?

 

Thanks,

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I looked at your logs. The volume seems very low so I assume you are just starting. I went through that in the beginning, along with sore ankles. Over time my body adjusted. Your body will do whatever you ask of it-just ask nicely and ask frequently. If they are just sore probably ok, if there is a real sharp pain or lasts into the next day perhaps there is a problem

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