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Thanks!  I am just beginning - especially the "running" part... I ride my bike quite a bit when the weather is warmer but the whole "running" thing is new...

 

Alex 

Question on Motors?  You know those motors you seen before where you put them on your bike and then you go?? Well are those allowed in tri races? Reason Is I was looking up past results on the races I plan to do so see where I would place as of today, well the answer was the back of the pack.. Man I was looking at the 40-44 age group and about 50% were at about 25mph on the bike and the others range from 15 to mostly 20mph.. When I go out and bike, I feel like Im booking it I then only average about 16mph.. A lot of those guys are 9mph over what Im doing.. How do yall get up to the 20+ mph.  I have a bike race on 4/2 and I would love to increase my speed to atleast 19mph.  Any good suggestions please let me know.

Sorry one more question on drafting.  I was reading the USAT rules and it talked about drafting.  I know you have to be 3 bikes away from the one in front of you and you have 15 secods to pass a rider, but they also had  "Once passed, you must immediately exit the draft zone from the rear before attempting to pass again."  Im not really sure what they are talking about here.

GANG!

I will be back in full force tomorrow morning. Since arriving home on Saturday evening after 26 days in Australia, Lynn has been catching up and catching up and catching up some more on all her computer stuff. She is back to work tomorrow, so that clears the path for me -- thank god for small mercies!

On an unrelated note, I am pleased to announce that yesterday was my first day without anything resembling a workout since Dec 28. Some of those 82 days were cross-country skiing-only, which as I have said here before are hardly "workouts"............but one of the memebers of my last year's group is adamant that they count, and I should be smart enough to realize that and DEMAND of myself that I take more pure days off. So i finally heeded her, and that was yesterday. Yay for me??

I have never come close to 82-straight before, and never will again.. It wasn't planned or anything, but just sort of happened and then kept happening -- I guess one of the side effects of coaching oneself AND doing so on whim-inspired basis!

After yesterday, I reverted to chaos today --- 65' swim, 61' upper-body lift, 44' run, 80' Yoga session. Is that 250 minutes, as in 4h10m of working out? Well, tomorrow will probably be MUCH more sensible!

Finally, i'm loving Yoga, working my way through an unlimited two-week pass that we got as a $15 Groupon. BONUS!BONUS!BONUS! I have done 9 classes in 10 days, and am surprised at my response. More on that later. For now.....g'night!

Awesome run.... I just went out for a quick run before lunch.  I started the time, had some tunes going, and when I looking 2km later, I was only at 9:58... 5 min kms...  So, I decided to try and hold the pace for 5km.  Finished in 25:11... pretty happy with myself!

DUNCAN -

So you have to register in Chinese, eh? Does that mean there is a good chance of finding your results under F20-24, perhaps?

Very fine run you had! Am I correct that this isn't the first promising one you've had recently?

As for those times of mine....
Runs and rides are always pure times. Swims in a pool are kept as running time, but I subtract whatever time I estimate was spent switching training toys, or just loafing at the end of the lane; so it's close to time simply spent swimming. Lifting is always running time, with no regards to resting between sets and all that stuff. So 62' might actually be only 45' of actual exerting. As for Yoga, well, you may know Yoga and realize that depending on the style, it might not be too demanding, and there can be lots of rest poses. What I'm mostly doing is the quieter stuff, less "physical" styles, so the 80' yesterday is hardly the same as 80' of S, B, or R.

CRAIG -

Congrats on the wetsuit! Now you can attack the chily waters off the oregon coast, with only your extrmities getting numb within 20 seconds!

Which type and model did you get..........and have you engaged in hostilities with it yet, fighting to get it on and off? That WILL get easier over time as the suits limbers up some and you learn the specific contortions required to make it as fast as possible. Trust me!

ALEX -

Way to go with the improved consistency! Winter is always the toughest time for us northerners to grit our teeth and gird our loins and tackle those workouts, but now that spring has mostly sprung I hope it gets incresasingly easier for you. It certainly is positive that your hip responded well to being outside rather than on he 'mill, and for sure your overall psyche will respond well to being able to ride outside regularly!

Are you feeling a fair bit of difference with the new and improved fitting?

DAVID -

Youre SOOOO fortunate to live where racing can begin so early. I will definitely be living vicariously through you on Sunday!

As for checking your stuff many times over --- never a bad thing! I used to be a stickler for that sort of detail.......but nowadays I take a cavaier attitude towards it all. I guess ibfigure I've done it all so many times that it is just natural for me, but I know full well that it's just a matter of time before I do something really dumb and critical, such as forget my bike helmet or bring the wrong running shoes or get to the edge of the water and see that I left my goggles back in transition, a quarter mile away. It's kind of a shame that I have devloped this attitude at an edge at which my memory is a bit, uh, "slippery"!

ANYHOW, I'm looking forward to your race comments on Sunday!!

ALEX again -

It's probably what is generally called "shin splints" There's a fancier and more clinical name, but shin splints will do fine for now. (As well, there are several conditions that can affect this area, so that term is sometimes vague and not overly helpful.)

I'm guessing that the discomfort is felt on the inside of the shin, and may be spread out along the middle portion of the shin; yes? This is very common amongst people who are just getting serious about running and who are trying to ramp up their mileage, and that would seem to fit you quite well. There can also be some anatomical causatives such as over-pronation, but for now let's just "blame" it on the building of the mileage.

George mentioned thois problem for himself a couple of weeks ago, and I told him that the best therapy is to ice the shin a few times a day with an ice-filled styrofoam cup. Buy a stack of these and keep a couple in your freezer all the time. Just fill them 7/8 full of water and freeze, and then when you're ready to use them, tear off the top inch or two of styrofoam and do the icing of the shins manually -- just slow, circular movements on the affected areas. Do this a few times a day, maybe five minutes each side in ach session.

Backing off a bit from running will help, too, as will some gentle calf stretches. But the ice massage technique above is the best!

Let me know how this is developing, okay?

JEFF -

Nice story from the pool ---- you fish, you!

JEFF again -

Trading stories, mine is that I wrenched my lower back yestreday morning ---- doing dishes and the day AFTER my first pure day off in 83 days. So what do I assume from this? That dishwashing is an inherently hazardous activity? That manic training is just what I need? Or both??

The back is still a problem today. It made it through all my stuff yesterday, but......

GEORGE -

The good news for you is that you're a young pup compared to me. The bad news is that you're relative youth puts you in one heckuva tough age group! In fact, I think the toughest a.g. in traithlon in M40-44, full of guys who have been doing this stuff long enough to be experts, but still young enough so that their bodies still functionon all 27 cylinders. M35-39 is also tough.....and so is 45-49......and 50-54 can have lots of studs as well............but then it will all get better for you when you hit 55. Cheer up, and keep the faith!

Duncan is correct, though, that some of the speed you're seeing in those results is a benefit of having police at intersections so you can just bomb through them. Caution is always recommended, of course, but still --- you can get and maintain a great head of steam not having to worry about stopping all the time. You've described where you live as a subdivsion, which I take to mean has lots of stops and yields -- not too conducive to hitting 20mph or more!

As for hitting that and sustaining (maintaining?) it, it's not easy. It is generally felt that it takes about five years of serious cycling to get really strong on the bike, and thta's part of what you're seeing with those results -- guys who have been doing this stuff seriously for a long while. You're probably also seeing results of guys who are on killer bikes!

Given all that, it supports the idea of not focusing too much on what others are doing, especially as you are starting out. You are an Experiment of One, just biding your time form a couple of seasons and working at learning the ropes and bettering your own efforts and performances. That's why it's such a good idea for people new to triathlon to try to repeat a couple or three races from year to year, just for comparison's sake.

That said, conditions on a race course one year can be radically different from conditions the next year, soooo.....
It is good to have a route or two for cycling and running where you can do periodic time trials as a way to judge your improvements. (And of couse, the pool can work well for swimming, just doing 500 yard time trials maybe once a month.)

Finally, one of the Tour d'France rdiers last year was mildly suspected of maybe having some motorized device inside his frame somewhere. I think it was Fabian Cancillara (sp?), and I think one his race biies was confiscated and x-rayed. He's one of the best time-trialists of all the professional riders, so it's not like he needs outside help. Which he didn't --- his bike was "clean"!

GEORGE again -

Jeff is right on with his drafting response. I'll juts add that the one darfting penalty I recievd happened when I was passed and just got brain-dead and didn't drop back -- right as the marshal was coming along on the motorcycle. I wasn't trying to catch the draft of the guy who just apssedme, it's just I wasn't thinking. DOH! And because that was a half-ironman, it was a FOUR-MINUTE penalty!! Fortunately, the age group guy behind me in the results was more than four minutes back so my placement wasn't affected, although my half-iorn p.r. was -- from 5:09 to 5:13. GRRRR!!!

Anyhow, the onus is on the one who is passed to drop back immediately.

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If this year is like the past two, within a few weeks you will check in here and find that we have disappeared. BUT! We haven't really disappeared, it's just that we will have been "archived" to make room for the spring groups.

So, all you'll have to do us click on Mentor Group Archives, and there we'll be -- along with a couple hundred other mentor groups that have been archived over the years. Because I will keep this active we shouldn't drift down beyond the first page, and will likely stay near the top. (My two previous groups are always within the top ten, even when the oldest of the day goes dormant for a week or more.)

Many of the groups that formed when this one did will cease being active when the new groups start, but I choose to keep going --- heck, the fun hasn't even begun for most of us!! So, anyhow, we will continue to exist, it'll just be in the M.G. Archives.

Just so you know!

 

I got a 2XU T:2. Its an entry level suit but pretty flexible. Once I got it on I could move pretty easily.The bottom half went on pretty easy but then I got to the arms and shoulders, ugh. I got my shoulders in then thought how on earth is this thing ever going to get zipped? The guy at the shop helped me move the arms up more and got more material into the shoulders and he zipped it up. I was able to get into it and it didn't feel to tight so I got it.

eta: oh and I got 10% off because I'm a member of BT, one of the guys at the shop is here on BT also.

Edited by ckallpoints 2011-03-23 9:49 AM

CRAIG -

VERY good suit! I think enough of 2XU to say with some confidence that their "entry" level suits are better than several other companies' intermediate suits.

Yanking it higher and higher at the crotch and into the armpits and onto the shoulders is key, as is a gentle bend backwards when pulling up the zipper.

Good purchase!

Good grief!

Where Yoga-a-day for a workout week will get you is wildly skewed graphs here at BT! My total last week was 1020 minutes, or 17 hours -- but 443m (7h23m) 0f that was Yoga, and so my graph is remarkably top-heavy with "other" sports -- in my case, it was all Yoga. This week will likely be a bit more normal.......maybe. (Love those pretty graphs, though!!)

Yoga has been wonderful, and virtually all I have done is the slower stuff. I initially thought I would pursue Ashtanga and Bikram and Power, but those are just too fast and advanced for me inflexible body. So, I've grown to love the slower ones which are actually more like active massage than a strenuous Yoga workout. I seldom stretch on my own, so this is dieal. I especially like Yin, where each pose is held for 3-5 minutes and the main goal is to work the deeper tissues of the hips and back. Perfect!!