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2011-03-31 3:27 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 487![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() McFarland, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSteve, I am 8 weeks out from a half marathon. I spoke with our coach about a lack of running preparation the last two weeks. All I have done the last two weeks is one longer run with speed intervals (Mondays) and a short brick run (15 min). Not sure what next week will bring. Should I be concerned? This half marathon is not my "A" race, that one doesn't come until October. Help! Loved the do's and don'ts! |
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2011-03-31 3:32 PM in reply to: #3422992 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Jeff has covered quite well what you need to bring to a sprint. I'll just add a few more thoughts. I have never had a triathlon cancelled outright, but a few have been turned into duathlons due to lightning or extreme water conditions -- in one case it was huge waves, in another it was an overnight inversion of Lake Ontario that took the water temp from 71 to 55. Never has even torrential rain resulted in either a cancellation or even a shortening of the bike or run legs. Here's a thought, though, to which bike-savvy JEFF might have a refinement or a correction. When it is raining hard and the roads are slick and maybe puddly, it is a good idea to lower the inflation of your tires. I usually run mine at 120psi, which is their maximum, but in wetwetwet I will deflate them down to about 100psi. (I'll also do this on training rides.) I'm always wary of pinch flats, so I don't go any lower than about 100psi. JEFF????? As for gels -- if it's in a little packet already, you do NOT need to flask or bottle them! Just tear off the top and slurp away, trying alwys to chase with water afterwards. (In the spirit of fulldisclosure, however, I will say that for half-irons or irons I do flask my gels and carry the flask in one of the four pockets of my DeSoto tri shorts. For sprints and olys, though, it's just me and the packet.) If what you received from Hammer was one of their big jugs, well, then you'll need a flask (or a sherpa alongside you to pass the jug when the urge for gel!). Jeff is right that most gels work the same, although a gel won't work if it isn't palatable either due to taste or consistency. I dislike thicker gels, although some folks hate the thin ones. In general I dislike the berry-flavored ones....although others love 'em. So, sample as widely as you can and see what works best for you. Carbohydrate levels will differ, and while that might matter some for half-irons and beyond, for olys and sprints there is not that much time to benefit from, say, 27g of carbs as opposed to, say, 22g. The ROUGH rule of thumb for these things is ROUGHLY one about 15min before a workout or race, and one or two an hour....or one every 45 minutes. Industry hype, maybe, for an even that will end in maybe under 90 minutes? Perhaps. Still, I err on the side of "why not?", and so for a sprint it will be one before the swim and MAYBE one right at the end of the bike that will tide me over on the run. As distances increase, though, the protocol for me changes dramatically. I have used HEED for years and love it. On a sprint, I will carry one water bottle, a third- to half-full of HEED. That's it. No water. I will have taken plenty in during the swim, and for the rest I can wait until the run. In between on the bike, however, I may want something that has taste, and that's where the HEED comes in. As for that small amount, well, it's less weight in a bottle and less wastage for what I don't drink. And as for drinking on the bike, I wait at least ten minutes into it. As with EVERYTHING, try nothing new on race day!!!!!!! This can include goggles and running shoes and anything else, but nowhere is it more important than with nutrition. Many, many, many people have been eliminated from thr competition as a result of gastric distress, and of the many ways to DNF, that is perhaps the most ignominious! So, make sure that you've given decent training tests to everything you are considering ingesting during a race! |
2011-03-31 3:35 PM in reply to: #3423405 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - 1.) Congrats on signing up for Branson! (Is that a lump you have in your throat, or just a naturally large adam's apple? 2.) See my post above to George concerning how much to deflate when roads are wet and slick, and amend accordingly! (Please?) |
2011-03-31 3:36 PM in reply to: #3420814 |
Veteran 142![]() ![]() Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSteve....the Hutnersville Tri is at the same complex....same bike course, different run course (due to weather this past time) and 250 additional yds in the pool. Hopefully the weather will be good and I can redeem myself!! Still need some work on the bike, but I already have some new clipless pedals and will be getting shoes this weekend to start getting used to those before May 1st. Hoepfully that will help with my cadence, etc. Pretty rough week for training for me....started getting chest congestions Monday after the race (I'm sure doing all that in the cold didn't help). Still feel like crap today...but hopefully I can rebound quickly. I have a small 5k run this Satruday that I am doing for a friend of mines charity (she has cancer), but I think I am going to take it east if my body isn't back to normal. David |
2011-03-31 3:38 PM in reply to: #3424027 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLORI - Yay! You're still here! (Stay tuned for the long overdue post on open-water swims, which you mentioned back in early January, probably.) As for you half-marathon concerns, I will romp through your logs and get back to you later this evening. (Offhand, though, only small concerns are warranted if it is not an "A" race and if you're happy making it a slightly glorified training run; I think your Base is pretty good, isn't it?) |
2011-03-31 3:45 PM in reply to: #3422992 |
Veteran 142![]() ![]() Charlotte, NC | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDgdsemiller - 2011-03-31 9:04 AM Weather condition question. If its raining, do they postpone the tri races or are they still on. Well I signed up for the Mullet Man Tri 4/16 (1/4 mile swim, 16 mile bike and 4 mile run). I guess I will put all your do and dont's to memory. Well we have the do and dont out there, how about what to take to a sprint tri. Does anyone have a checklist you can post or email me? Question on gels. I have been using Gu Gels and just received in the mail some Hammer Gel along with some samples of their Heed. Steve pointed me to their website and I thought I would try their product out. Has anyone used their stuff before and if so can someone help me understand the use of gels and heed. What I keep reading from others on the internet is that they put their gel in water bottles or flask. Can you also just take suck down the gel and then drink water? With the GU I just rip the top off and squeeze the good stuff in my mouth and then drink water. Also Heed, are you supposed to take gel before the race and use Heed during the race? I hope everyone has a great day. Trust me...it has to be lightning pretty good to turn a race into a duathlon. The race I did last weekend was 40 and rainy...but still a go! A little advice on the Gu...I will actually partially tear the top part off to get it open and then duct tape that to the handlebars on my bike. Once I am riding and I am ready for the Gu, I just rip it the rest of the way off (leaving the duct tape and top part on my handlebars), eat the Gu and then stuff the packet in the leg of my shorts. Once I get back to tranisition, throw it away. If you forget (which I have done) you'll have a nice little surprise when you take off your shorts!!! David |
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2011-03-31 3:52 PM in reply to: #3424060 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDstevebradley - 2011-03-31 3:35 PM JEFF - 1.) Congrats on signing up for Branson! (Is that a lump you have in your throat, or just a naturally large adam's apple? I have my doubts about that and have never bothered. The logic would be a greater contact point between tire and road if the tire is softer. I'm not sure that extra few millimeters or whatever would be worth the increased rolling resistance. But if it makes you feel better then go for it. On wet pavement take the corners easier, more upright, accelerate more cautiously and be aware that flats increase, my theory is that the rain water floats more debris and more stuff washes to the sides and shoulders than might otherwise be there, and it is harder to see. Try pinching the tire at 120psi and at 100psi and judge for yourself if it is a meaningful difference. Could be wring of course-honestly never gave it much thought even when doing ultras and night time rainy commutes |
2011-03-31 6:01 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Expert 801![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Oklahoma City | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDHi Steve -
Are you going to mentor again in April? If so, can I be a member of your mentee group? |
2011-03-31 9:32 PM in reply to: #3424318 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDLORI - Looking at your logs for the past four weeks, you've been in that comfy middlin' zone for the past five long runs. That's mostly okay, as it seems to be suiting you both in terms of injuries and a pretty consistent pace. But now is kind of crunch time, and depending on what exactly your goal is for Madison, you have to start ramping up the runs this coming Monday (interesting choice for a longer run day!) Let's be rudimentary here and play around with the old 10% rule and see where that gets us: 4-4: 8 miles 4-11: 8.8 4-18: 9.7 4-25: 10.6 5-2: 11.7 5-9: 12.9 5-16: ?? 5-23: maybe 4-6 easy miles, being just six days out from the race; or 7, and a 4-miler two or three days later? Change the 10% to 10.1%, and you'd just about be at race disatnce on the 9th. Voila! If you want a "step-back" week, then thatcould be on the 18th or 25th. However, if right now you think you can just forge ahead and maybe even go over-distance on 5-16 before you start to wind it down and oozle on into a taper, then that's fine too --- maybe even desirable. A question to ask yourself is how important is it for you to get as close to 13.1 in your training. For some people it matters hugely, but in general I feel that it is more improtant with the longer distances to err on the side of safe training and count on race-day adrenaline to fill in the gaps. So for a marathon, that would mean stopping at 22-24 miles, and a half-marathon can be tackled well (enough) if the training stops at 11.5-12 miles. You have knowledge of what it feels like to be on your feet for 13.1 miles -- and then some!!!! -- so arguably you can get by with some toned-down training --- especially since it isn't an "A" race for you. What d'ya think? |
2011-03-31 9:41 PM in reply to: #3424318 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDTRINA - Holy-moly, I thought the security system at this particular site was highly sophisticated (infrared cameras, electrified fencing, former Green Berets on patrol), but I see you have broken in and made your way right to the control center. Pretty slick! Anyhow, you've read my tentative mind! Not only have I never started one of these in April, but maybe because of it I have been curious as to how it would work with the season either approaching (for me) or potentially in fullish swing (for you). Plus, I have a friend up here who is interested in this whole process, and she asked me about when I might be doing another group, so there's that, too. The short answer is that I haven't decided yet, and need a few days to see how another might fit into my life. But look for a PM from me soon, okay? |
2011-03-31 9:46 PM in reply to: #3424064 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDDAVID - Remember the "above-the-neck" rule -- any ailment above the neck is fine to train through, jsut as long as you aren't utterly miserable doing so. Throat issues are a bit dicier, and chest problems are DEFINITELY best served by avoiding exertion. So, don't push yourself this week, especially as it's important to you to try to be in good enough shape to be there at your friend's race. That is very nice, having a same-site-mostly course at which you can get redemption for Cool Breeze. Grrrr!!! |
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2011-03-31 9:50 PM in reply to: #3424599 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - Thinking about it some more, in races I probably only go down about 10psi -- not enough to make much difference, I suppose. The problem I have is that I don't have the good sense god gave gravel to slow down and be suitably cautious, so I think that deflating some will save me from disaster. However, I AM better at lowering the psi on training rides.....although the older I get the less inclined I am to train in downpours. |
2011-03-31 10:26 PM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDWOW thanks everyone for all the great responses. This is one great team. |
2011-04-01 5:39 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 358![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Taoyuan, Taiwan | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDWell, last Friday I did 10km in 58:30. Felt pretty good about it, especially since when I ran a 10km race 4 years ago, I finished in about 1:14:00. So pretty happy with my progress.
Today, I decided to try another long run, this time with my new fuel belt (Birthday present from my wife) and an energy gel, just to see what its like... never tried one before. I ran 11km in 1:03:22. So... feeling pretty good right now. Also, my private lesson for this evening just called and took the night off... so I can go home and rest. |
2011-04-01 9:53 AM in reply to: #3424787 |
Veteran 663![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Central Point | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDDuncanQH - 2011-04-01 3:39 AM Well, last Friday I did 10km in 58:30. Felt pretty good about it, especially since when I ran a 10km race 4 years ago, I finished in about 1:14:00. So pretty happy with my progress.
Today, I decided to try another long run, this time with my new fuel belt (Birthday present from my wife) and an energy gel, just to see what its like... never tried one before. I ran 11km in 1:03:22. So... feeling pretty good right now. Also, my private lesson for this evening just called and took the night off... so I can go home and rest. Nice run times and improvement. So there is hope for me. Keep up the good work. |
2011-04-01 10:23 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Veteran 358![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Taoyuan, Taiwan | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJust got back from Gnomeo and Juliet... in Chinese. I'm sure I missed out on all those subtle little jokes that get thrown into a movie like that, but it was still pretty good. Enjoyable if you have small kids. |
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2011-04-01 10:24 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Extreme Veteran 371![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Mobile | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJeff - Congrats on signing up for the 70.3. That is awesome.. Lori - Keep up the hard training, I'm sure you will be ready for your half marathon. Duncan - Great times on the run. Keep up the good work. Ok its silly question time again. Sorry for all the questions, but who better to ask then this great group of folks. Since I'm not part of a training team, no coach other then all of you and I train alone. I like it this way since my schedule is crazy and its hard to commit to a time to meet folks, plus I like to do it alone. I would love to get a coach but since we are on a tight budget (saving money to allow my wife to quit work in Jan 2011 to do her student teaching) it does not allow the cash for a coach. I did sign up for a free open water swim class given by a company in Pensacola FL called MPI http://www.teammpi.com/index.php the owners are John Murray and Mark Sortino. They are giving a free 45 min class on 4/23. They are the ones that put on my sons duathlon. Hey its free... Ok to the question. When riding on a flat course, what gears do you use. My gears are 39/53 and 11/25. Reason I ask and its silly to compare my bike to an indoor bike machine at the gym. But the other morning I went riding on my bike and I did not push to hard but did not take a light stroll. I went 20.3 mile in 1hr and 16min. Flat course with 2 small hills. Last night I went to the gtm and did the bike they have their. It does not give the MPH but I did pedal pretty fast for 45 min and went only 10.9 miles. So if I was trying to do 20 miles like the other morning it would have taken me 1hr 30min which is 15 min longer and I feel I was pedaling faster at the gym. The machine said I was avg around 115 and 119 RPM. So this leads to my question on the gears. I just want to make sure Im making good use to my pedal strokes and energy to get as much speed and distance in. Its hard to monitor my biking in the morning since I bike in the dark 4am my cateye does not have a light to see the computer. When I do pass a street light I try to look down but I dont have the best eye sight so I cant make out the numbers until my ride is over. I have the bike race tomm and I just want to make sure I get the best out of what I have to give. Thanks and I hope everyone has a great day |
2011-04-01 10:40 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDShift based on cadence, and effort. Riding fast? big gear, slow?-easy gear both at whatever cadence you decide is your optimal rate. The pace and effort would be determined by the goals of that ride and conditions. Cadence is like your car's tachometer, shift to keep your "engine" within it's optimal or most efficient rpm range. Riding in the dark is a great time to work on this. Simply learn to gauge your effort based on how you feel and check yourself under a light when you get the chance. If your cranking out 100+ on the stationary bikes you should have no problem with 90ish on the road and turn bigger-faster gears Edited by Av8rTx 2011-04-01 10:44 AM |
2011-04-01 11:42 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Master 2236![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Denison Texas | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDMarch totals:
I see in black and white what I suspected all along as far as why my cycling has not been very good. I have not taken it as seriously, relying on my experience (10 years ago), and perceived weaknesses in the other 2 sports. For April I think I will try to even the three up, maybe more cycling as far as time goes. Moderate and finally some hot weather and longer days will help my riding too. Looking at Oly and HIM distance it seems the swim is only about 3% of the total distance, bike is 79% and the run is 18% (my math is probably off). I wonder of there is some logic in making the percentages of training time or distance similar? I have other running and cycling goals for this year as well so they may remain disproportionate. Swimming seems very technique oriented and technical to me so more time in the pool has helped me. Lake swims coming soon |
2011-04-02 6:59 AM in reply to: #3425179 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDSaturday morning now, and I'm here breiefly before more after breakfast. No visits here yesterday due to a looooong day --- left at 7a.m. to drive Lynn into work in Ottawa, and then until I picked her up at 6p.m. I did a 90-minute Yoga, shopped for a scale, hung out in a bookstore, lifted for 63 minutes, shopped again for a scale, swam for 42 minutes, filled the car with gas, visited a bakery and a magazine store, ran for 41 minutes, and took some clothes for alterations. After getting Lynn we went for dinner and then to a very long chamber music concert. We got home at about 10:45, and I just headed straight to bed. Not much rest for the wicked yesterday! I'll be back in a while! Edited by stevebradley 2011-04-02 9:19 AM |
2011-04-02 7:52 AM in reply to: #3425232 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDGEORGE - Aw, I'm probably late for your bike race today, but if I'll knock off a quick one now in case you haven't left yet. For flat, I'll be in my big ring in front and one of the smaller cogs in back. I will judge which cogs to use by the ones that allow me to sustain a cadence of 95+. It is "easy" for some people to just pop it into the big ring and smallest cog and hammer away, but this usually results in less-than-maximal cadence and too much hard work. So, for me, there will be 2-4 cogs that I can go back and forth from and into, allowing me to use suntly different muscle components, and just keep feeling fresher. Windy today? Hope not! That can change gearing in a big hurry! Have a good time with it, and let us know all about it! |
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2011-04-02 7:57 AM in reply to: #3426341 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDA COUPLE MORE FOR THE "DO" LIST ------- DO set your bike's gears into something you can initially "kick" into from the moment you mount. This will usually be small ring up front, and maybe your third or fourth largest cog in back. DO base the above on the bike course's start. If it begins immediately with a climb, you'll want small ring and the largest or next-to-largest cog in back. If it begins with a quick descent, big ring in front and one of the smallest cogs in back. DO clear out your bike computer before you leave for the swim start. |
2011-04-02 8:11 AM in reply to: #3425397 |
Champion 10618![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDJEFF - Interesting numbers! As for your time spent cycling, I think you did okay. First, your experience may indeed be 10 years old, but it is still experience. From your commetns here you certainly know your stuff, and while your cycling legs may be a bit rusty, there is a lot of savviness that you could call upon if you were in a bike race or tri today. I think you felt rusty at the recent tri, though, and I imagine that is working on your brain some. Still, I think it will come back to you quickly; have faith! Second, 112.8 miles isn't exactly peanuts (it's a full iron distance bike, right there! Good swim and run times, to be sure! The former has to be done to instill all those good swim habits, and the latter has to be up there for your various run-based goals for the season. For many people, the off-season is for weaknesses and the actual seson is focused on strengths. I guess that's the way I have done it over the years. I spend the winter drilling my soul out in the pool, mainatin my legs with too many meaningless trainer sessions, and run as well as I can given my usual litany of off-season running woes. Come the season, though, and my swims are ALL open-water endurance/speed type efforts -- no drill work at all. Bikes are hard efforts, and the runs are working towards something along the lines of a 45-minute 10km off the bike in an olympic distance. ANYHOW, all that is to say that as your season builds you might want to make your concerntraion more to the bike and run, and leave your swim to fends for itself. Which leads me to the next post, which I will get to shortly. |
2011-04-02 8:12 AM in reply to: #3426350 |
Elite 3067![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDstevebradley - 2011-04-02 7:57 DO clear out your bike computer before you leave for the swim start.
I forgot to do that in one of my first tris...I had done it when I loaded my bike on my car but when I got to the tri, I had to ride get my bike from my car to the transition area and that was about 2 miles. The race distance was 18 miles so when my computer showed I was at mile 16, I pushed harder thinking I could maintain that effort til the end. ARGH! Implosion and not good for conserving energy for the run |
2011-04-02 8:20 AM in reply to: #3256772 |
Elite 3067![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Got Your Mojo WORKIN'! group - CLOSEDI know many of you live in areas with temps already warming or where its already warm. I'm looking out my window and see some patches of muddy grass peaking out of snow and when I run I still need to be mindful of possible ice under my feet when early am temps are at or below freezing. Hard to believe that I'll be doing a duathlon in a month's time. I've yet to ride outside! (I want to convert my hybred bike to a 'mountain bike' this summer to get out riding in the winter next year or buy a really cheap mountain bike). So for you folks South of the Border or on the other side of the world for that matter, enjoy your training! And send some warmth this way |
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