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2008-01-21 10:58 AM

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Subject: Shirtless a problem?
I am fortunate to be in pretty mild weather during majority of the year and have always gone with bear essentials, shoes and shorts (&I-POD shuffle)... I have heard that running with a shirt (dry-fit) can actually keep you cooler. True or false?

2008-01-21 11:28 AM
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As long as it is not humid it can enhance the evaporative effect.
2008-01-21 11:35 AM
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The under armour compression shirts keep me extremely cool.  I even where them under my work clothes.

 

2008-01-21 11:39 AM
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2008-01-21 11:46 AM
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2008-01-21 12:49 PM
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Subject: RE: Shirtless a problem?
the main benifit is keeping the sun off your skin. Wearing clothes does in fact keep you cooler too. Saw it on Survivorman........

2008-01-21 1:10 PM
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Subject: RE: Shirtless a problem?
cardenas1 - 2008-01-21 11:58 AM

I am fortunate to be in pretty mild weather during majority of the year and have always gone with bear essentials, shoes and shorts (&I-POD shuffle)... I have heard that running with a shirt (dry-fit) can actually keep you cooler. True or false?



If you are female I highly recommend shirtless.

2008-01-21 1:19 PM
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I have read that wearing clothes keeps you cooler because if it is hot and you are sweating a lot the clothes will retain the moisture and when it evaporates it cools you down. Without the shirt the sweat just runs off you body and thus does not cool you down.
2008-01-21 3:22 PM
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I agree with the comments about wearing a wicking shirt helping with the evaporative effect as well as protection from the sun. I think the heat/humidity and sweat rate also make a difference. While I prefer to wear a shirt, I was a late starter in a tri in Tampa and it was really hot and humid. I sweat way beyond what my tri-top could hold and it just became extra weight. I think being shirtless would have been cooler in this situation minus the sun protection. It comes down to personal preference.
2008-01-21 3:27 PM
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As an FYI, shirtless in a USAT regulated tri is grounds for penalty/disqualification ........
2008-01-21 3:29 PM
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Daremo - 2008-01-21 3:27 PM As an FYI, shirtless in a USAT regulated tri is grounds for penalty/disqualification ........

No it's not. Unless you can cite some rule I'm not aware of.

2008-01-21 3:29 PM
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Didn't we have this as a thread last year where it was cited in the regs????
2008-01-21 3:33 PM
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Uh, no. Not that I remember. You're welcome to go through the rules and find it if you like.
2008-01-21 3:36 PM
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This is going back a bit to an '06 thread:

A new USAT  rule beginning this 2006 season requires men to have their upper torso covered "from the base of the neck to the base of the sternum" during the bike and run parts of the event. USAT is giving various reasons for this rule, one being the aim to comply with an existing and enforced ITU rule.

I have corresponded with USAT to get clarification on enforcement. In an email from Charlie Crawford, USAT Head Rules Judge that says " it will be in place as a trial for all GrandPrix events and the National Championships and will be in the race literature for those events." He goes on to say that USAT will seek comment  before making the rule mandatory for all USAT events in 2007.

But I did also peruse the rules before you posted them up bear and didn't see that in there anymore .......

2008-01-21 3:36 PM
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Down here a shirt does not keep you cooler!
2008-01-21 3:41 PM
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Daremo - 2008-01-21 3:36 PM

This is going back a bit to an '06 thread:

A new USAT  rule beginning this 2006 season requires men to have their upper torso covered "from the base of the neck to the base of the sternum" during the bike and run parts of the event. USAT is giving various reasons for this rule, one being the aim to comply with an existing and enforced ITU rule.

I have corresponded with USAT to get clarification on enforcement. In an email from Charlie Crawford, USAT Head Rules Judge that says " it will be in place as a trial for all GrandPrix events and the National Championships and will be in the race literature for those events." He goes on to say that USAT will seek comment  before making the rule mandatory for all USAT events in 2007.

But I did also peruse the rules before you posted them up bear and didn't see that in there anymore .......

Proposed, never adopted. Evidently the "comment" was primarily in opposition.

2008-01-21 3:42 PM
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I thought the RD had the option to require them, but nothing I know of that is official.
2008-01-21 4:03 PM
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lfrick - 2008-01-21 3:42 PM I thought the RD had the option to require them, but nothing I know of that is official.

RD always has the option to layer rules at his discretion. The original statement was that shirts are required by all USAT-sanctioned races. They're not.

2008-01-21 4:15 PM
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the bear - 2008-01-21 5:03 PM

lfrick - 2008-01-21 3:42 PM I thought the RD had the option to require them, but nothing I know of that is official.

RD always has the option to layer rules at his discretion. The original statement was that shirts are required by all USAT-sanctioned races. They're not.

*hijack on*  However, one could make the legal argument that tops ARE required by women as most municipalites have some sort of indecent exposure law in place and would hence supercede the USAT's stance.  Depending on the woman in question would of course warrant one's definition of "indecent" exposure.    *hijack off*



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2008-01-21 8:53 PM
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Subject: RE: Shirtless a problem?
TMI Personal preference it is... I have tried both and really have not seen difference in stamina, etc. Too many thoughts run through my head when exhaustion sets in and shirt/shirtless is one of them. Have first sprint in a few months and thought about this for transitions. Since I have no sponsors to please, I was thinking going from swim to finish in same shorts and just changing shoes would save some time. But I guess just more training will do the same... Thanks for feedback.

2008-01-22 8:13 AM
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Subject: RE: Shirtless a problem?
keep practicing your transition. If you get your area set up right, and know where everything is, sticking your arms and head through takes all of what, 2 seconds? As long as you don't stand there and fight it it's not going to be that much of a time difference.

And.. I have found that quality shirts breathe, while some of the off-brand "technical" (just thinned out cotton) actually make me sweat more by not letting the moisture pass through.
I do like my C9 & Under Armour stuff.


2008-01-22 10:50 AM
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Subject: RE: Shirtless a problem?
Big Sexy - 2008-01-21 5:15 PM

*hijack on*  However, one could make the legal argument that tops ARE required by women as most municipalites have some sort of indecent exposure law in place and would hence supercede the USAT's stance.  Depending on the woman in question would of course warrant one's definition of "indecent" exposure.    *hijack off*

Not in Ontario; topless in public is legal for either sex, however I have yet to see many women indulging in their freedom to do so (and have never seen it allowed in any sporting events locally)...so I guess they must know about the moisture-wicking thing.

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