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2008-02-08 10:23 AM
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After living in Florida for 10 years with stinking humidity and terrible drivers, I can not help but just laugh at the Florida recommendations.
Wherever you pick on the West Coast or Rocky mountain region is by far superior to East Coast. Wheather, mountains,outdoor activities,etc...

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2008-02-08 10:27 AM
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That is easy.  Tampa Bay Area, FL

FL is the fishing capitol. 

There is 5-6 months out of the year that are perfect weather for camping.  I camp anytime of the year but the summer does get a little hot.

There are lots of tri training camps around and tri's almost 12 months of the year. 

There aren't alot of hills but one of the most common hilly places in FL to ride is near Tampa. 

There aren't any mountains to bike but there are plenty of places to ride. 

Boating can't be beat in FL.  Fresh and saltwater everywhere and year round.



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2008-02-08 10:31 AM
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doubleplay - 2008-02-08 11:23 AM After living in Florida for 10 years with stinking humidity and terrible drivers, I can not help but just laugh at the Florida recommendations. Wherever you pick on the West Coast or Rocky mountain region is by far superior to East Coast. Wheather, mountains,outdoor activities,etc...

And you think that there are not terrible drivers in other states?

Yes it is humid but I don't have to deal with the snow for months on end or even temps below 50 for more than a few hours at a time. 

2008-02-08 11:18 AM
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tcovert - 2008-02-07 4:57 PM I'm extremely fond of LA. I train year 'round...the mountains, the ocean, the desert, lots of wide flat streets (and hilly ones, too) for cycling, etc., etc., all within short drive. Traffic sucks and it isn't cheap, but otherwise I think it's a really special place to live if you like diverse outdoor activities.

Ditto. Also, if you go inland a bit, you have all the convenience of these things nearby, but not nearly the cost. Traffic still sucks. (What do I know, though, I bike everywhere )

SoCal is a nice place to live for year-round weather.  Inland from LA is a bit smoggy and warm in the summer (July - Sep/Oct) so the workouts I do during that time of year are generally early in the morning or indoors at lunch (weekends not as bad).  But I can pretty much ride and run outdoors year round, which is great.  And the humidity levels are very decent.  You might enjoy down by San Diego.  If you're single you'd probably prefer closer to the big cities and ocean.  Orange County (between LA and San Diego) is very nice but has become very crowded.  None of southern Cal is cheap.

2008-02-08 11:38 AM
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My vote goes with Central Virginia.  Not to hot in the summer....nothing like Florida and mild winters.  It's been in the 60's all week. 
2008-02-08 11:39 AM
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wgraves7582 - 2008-02-07 6:16 PM Crested Butte, CO

Crested Butte might not fit the criteria for "winters that don't stink" at least in the sense of doing anything besides boarding or skiing.   They have gotten over 20 feet of snow this season!  That aside, CB is awesome



Yeah I was going to suggest somewhere in Colorado... I've visited a few times recently and was amazed/shocked/delighted at the abundance of options in regards to an active, outdoor lifestyle. But if you're looking to get away from the cold weather, never mind.


2008-02-08 12:16 PM
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dont get me wrong KC is a great place to grow up and live. Not too expencive and a good mixture of the active/multi sport lifestyle.

How ever winter (beginning November to Mid March) is not a good time to be here at least in my opinion...

I have thought about AUSTIN as well as HILTON HEAD area SOUTH CAROLINA....

While SO. CAL would be perfict it seems to be retelivley expensive place to live

I have lived in KC last 2 years. Spent summers in MIN, ILL, OHIO for baseball, and went to school in the southwest corner of ARKANSAS... (only snowed 1 time in 3 yrs. and was gone by 12 the next day)

ITS FUN TO THINK ABOUT DIFFERENT POSIBILITIES... even if you know nothing will happen immediatley
2008-02-08 12:32 PM
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I'd move to Austin yesterday if I could.
2008-02-08 1:19 PM
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There are an awful lot of triathletes, including professionals, in the Denver-Boulder-Colorado Springs area that train year round. But, of course, I would assume the weather is similar to Kansas City. It might be a wash.
2008-02-08 1:51 PM
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tri-dg - 2008-02-08 10:16 AM


I have thought about AUSTIN as well as HILTON HEAD area SOUTH CAROLINA....

While SO. CAL would be perfict it seems to be retelivley expensive place to live



Having lived three years on Hilton Head and 13 yrs in SoCal, I can definitely say that LA is more expensive than HHI...however, there is very little middle class housing on Hilton Head...most everything is in gated "plantations" (second homes, retirement homes, timeshares) or is part of the small historically African American communities, which are quite economically depressed...very little middle ground. You might consider nearby communities like Beaufort.

Also, HHI has good bike paths, but also a lot of summer time traffic. No mountains at all and the beaches are as good in SoCal, frankly. (Florida Gulf Coast is better than both, beach-wise.) Summers on Hilton Head are _very_ steamy (though not as bad as South Florida)...LA proper (i.e., the LA "basin") is very moderate year 'round...though the San Fernando Valley, where we live, gets extremely hot and dry in August-September.

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2008-02-08 2:19 PM
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wrt So Cal - I agree the weather is nice year-round - I did not enjoy biking there.  We lived in Laguna Beach - which is really hard to beat, but after a year or two you feel "locked in"  as the whole So Cal area is congested.  for good mountain biking I had to drive nearly an hour - and even those trails don't compare to what the CO Front Range has to offer.  hard to road bike in all the traffic



2008-02-08 2:37 PM
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You've got to give some consideration to the fact that two people who don't live here have recommended Austin.

Everything you mentioned is readily available here. We've got a huge tri community with luminaries like Desiree Ficker as local athletes. You'll see her at most of the local races unless she's prepping for something else (I still can't understand why Brandt didn't move here!).

You've got great training options:
- Town Lake hike and bike trail, a 10 mile gravel loop right downtown
- Barton Springs pool, a constant-temp, spring fed pool that's about 300 meters long, also right downtown.
- Several other good swimming venues over and above public pools and health clubs.
- Great variation of bike training from relatively flat to the east to significant hill training on the west side of town.
- Central Texas location that makes all the races in San Antonio, Houston, and Dallas just a few hours away. That's in addition to the rapidly expanding race calendar right here in Austin.

For the other activities:
- Lake Travis, Lake Austin, and Decker Lake are all great options for boating and fishing. Which one just depends on the goal.
- Several great mountain bike areas right in town including the Barton Creek greenbelt. Lots of trails out west in the Hill Country as well.
- Fantastic night life with amazing live music.

For outdoor activities, you'd be hard pressed to find a match, especially when you pair it with Austin's definitely unique atmosphere.

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2008-02-08 2:43 PM
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doubleplay - 2008-02-08 11:23 AM After living in Florida for 10 years with stinking humidity and terrible drivers, I can not help but just laugh at the Florida recommendations. Wherever you pick on the West Coast or Rocky mountain region is by far superior to East Coast. Wheather, mountains,outdoor activities,etc...

And you think that there are not terrible drivers in other states?

Yes it is humid but I don't have to deal with the snow for months on end or even temps below 50 for more than a few hours at a time. 



Matt,
As I said I lived in Florida for 10 years so I can compare. Florida has the worst drivers because the whole state is a big retirement community(as they say God's waiting room) with elderly folks behind the wheel or tons of tourist looking everywhere but the road.
I am living in Charlotte,NC now where it is way better than Florida but no comparison to West Coast which has all the qualities that the OP has asked for.Triathlon is an outdoor activity and does not go well with the humidity.


2008-02-08 2:56 PM
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doubleplay - 2008-02-08 3:43 PM
mgmoore7 - 2008-02-08 11:31 AM

doubleplay - 2008-02-08 11:23 AM After living in Florida for 10 years with stinking humidity and terrible drivers, I can not help but just laugh at the Florida recommendations. Wherever you pick on the West Coast or Rocky mountain region is by far superior to East Coast. Wheather, mountains,outdoor activities,etc...

And you think that there are not terrible drivers in other states?

Yes it is humid but I don't have to deal with the snow for months on end or even temps below 50 for more than a few hours at a time. 

Matt, As I said I lived in Florida for 10 years so I can compare. Florida has the worst drivers because the whole state is a big retirement community(as they say God's waiting room) with elderly folks behind the wheel or tons of tourist looking everywhere but the road. I am living in Charlotte,NC now where it is way better than Florida but no comparison to West Coast which has all the qualities that the OP has asked for.Triathlon is an outdoor activity and does not go well with the humidity.

Funny thing is, living here all my life, I like the humidity unless I am in dress clothes and sweating.  I actually breathe better in the humidity. 

2008-02-08 3:13 PM
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jmk-brooklyn - 2008-02-07 9:14 PM Never lived there, but San Diego seems really nice, and a tri mecca.

I have lived there, and would go back in an instant.  And for a 24 year old guy....  Heaven.

2008-02-08 3:19 PM
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greyhound - 2008-02-08 12:19 PM

wrt So Cal - I agree the weather is nice year-round - I did not enjoy biking there.  We lived in Laguna Beach - which is really hard to beat, but after a year or two you feel "locked in"  as the whole So Cal area is congested.  for good mountain biking I had to drive nearly an hour - and even those trails don't compare to what the CO Front Range has to offer.  hard to road bike in all the traffic



Orange County and LA are really two different regions...esp. southern OC, like Laguna...that's more comparable to San Diego. Where I live in the SFV, I'm literally only 10 minutes on surface streets from some good mountain biking/trail running. That's true of a lot of parts of LA.

Biking in general is a mixed bag...I wouldn't want to be training on the Westside...lot of traffic all day. But, again, in the San Fernando Valley and other more suburban areas, it's actually not bad...as major cities go, LA does have rather broad streets...I usually can find streets with either a "bike lane" or where I don't feel I have to ride so close to parked cars that I won't be able to dodge a door that gets flung open unexpectedly. Drivers can be jerks anywhere, of course, and LA's no exception.


2008-02-08 4:16 PM
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San Diego really is an awesome place for a triathlete or outdoor enthusiast. Hands down the best weather in the country (possibly the world). It's not too cold in the winter and it's not too hot in the summer, just nice all the time. You have the ocean right there for Open Water Swimming. Every kind of cycling terrain you could want, we have long flat stretches, we have big giant hills, we have everything inbetween all within a 30 minutes drive. Plus we have Fiesta Island which is incredibly useful for time training and tim trails and such. We even have great mountain biking, and you don't have to drive for it. Mission trails has some great places (and I live about 300 yards from a trail head). Running is fantastic, lots of great places for that (can't beat the beach). We also happen to have the best Tri Club around in my opinion.


Sounds pretty perfect... and it would be if everyone didn't know how great it was and move out here making it insanley crowded and expensive. I can't be too critical though because I'm one of those people hehe.
2008-02-08 4:26 PM
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While I believe that California has many amenities and is a fantastic place to live it is very expensive to live here.  If you've got money then move to California if not I would say Austin is a great place to live overall.  I spent many times traveling and staying in Austin through the years and in fact almost set up my company there.  It's affordable, has a great atmosphere, many amenities, and a great multisport lifestyle.  My vote goes for Austin.
2008-02-08 4:39 PM
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I split my time between NYC and the Pocono Mountains of PA. Hard to beat training in Central Park with an awesome club, dining, entertainment etc and the hunting, fishing, skiing, kayaking, mountain biking, golf, and tri training at/around the lake in the mountains.

But, every time I visit my brother in Laguna I want to move there.

I'd have to vote for SoCal.
2008-02-08 5:27 PM
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I spent many happy years biking and running in the rugged eastern foothills above Berkeley and Oakland, California. There are many steep and challenging climbs to choose from and there are several parks along the top for great mountain biking and trail running. Winters get rainy and damp but only get down to freezing once or twice a year. You can count on being able to train outside nearly every day from April through October. You'd have to travel a bit (3 hours to the Sierras) for great hiking/camping/fishing, or you could go to the Pacific Coast (1+ hours).

It's not so friendly if you want to buy a house ($$$), but if you're 24 and plan on bopping about the apartment life for a while, it is a great place with every kind of music, food, people, etc. you can imagine.
2008-02-09 8:40 AM
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do the houses in Austin have basements? or are they on slabs?


2008-02-09 9:51 AM
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I'll definitely throw a vote in for Austin.  If only it wasn't 5 hours away....

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2008-02-09 11:45 AM
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The central coast of CA is an excellent place to live. Plenty of outdoor activities, places to ride, beaches, and today it is sunny and the high is 73. It tends to be cheaper than most of coastal so cal & the bay area, and doesn't have all the traffic.

San Diego is also really awesome.
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tri-dg - 2008-02-09 8:40 AM

do the houses in Austin have basements? or are they on slabs?


Given the fairly rocky geology, pretty much everything is built on a slab. Not sure if you consider that good or bad.
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