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2008-02-08 1:36 PM

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Subject: Dallas Athletes St. Patricks Day Sprint

Ok, I'll try to start the thread for this race. This will be my very first Tri and very excited. Has anyone on BT done this one before? Looking for any course hints, etc...

 

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2008-02-08 1:49 PM
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smeador - 2008-02-08 1:36 PM

Ok, I'll try to start the thread for this race. This will be my very first Tri and very excited. Has anyone on BT done this one before? Looking for any course hints, etc...

 

Scott

I did this race last year and the Monster Tri twice (all the same course). 

The swim is obviously in a pool so no mass start which is nice for first race.  Depending on your pace fudge it alittle and give them a faster time than you can do (:15 secs or so).  For one you will be excited and can probably swim faster than you think and second it is easier to be passed than to pass in a pool.  Learn to flip turn if possible as you have to go under the ropes after each length and it definately makes it quicker.   The pool is huge and you can go 3 wide if needed so you have plenty of room.  Depending on where you normally swim try and find a deep pool to swim in if you are a beginner swimmer.  The first time I swan there I paniced for a second when I jumped into 12 ft deep water and was used to 4 feet deep.

The bike course is 2 loop around a big square with rolling hills.  My only hint is make sure you do 2 loops.  A few people each time only do 1 and get DQ'd.   You really do get any completely flat ground either except on the way to the loop.  You are either on a slight (very slight) incline or decline.  The bike is pretty simple though.

Run in on an enclosed concrete trail.  Completely flat and fast.  It is out and back so you pass alot of people for encouragement.  Only 1 water stop that you hit twice if needed.

Transitions are assigned rack by a number range (100-120 on 1 rack, 121-140 on another, etc)  if  you want an end spot get there early as you really only have 2 available to you.

I think these races are a blast especially for a first race.  I probably never would have attempted a tri unless I could have done one in a pool.

Have fun and good luck.

 BTW, here is the link to the bike course (only 1 loop) but you should get the idea.



Edited by kproudfoot 2008-02-08 1:50 PM
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Thanks for the information. It's already helping me thing it out!!!

 

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2008-02-08 1:56 PM
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smeador - 2008-02-08 1:52 PM

Thanks for the information. It's already helping me thing it out!!!

 

Scott

No problem.  PM me if you have any questions.  Alot of people on here have raced this course so I am sure other's will chime in.  Really the bike course is not all that challenging and others have said there is nowhere near the amount of climbing the route tracker shows but I have no idea.  In my mind if I can' t see over the hill I don't like it.
2008-02-10 10:02 PM
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This was my first ever race last year!  Its my home race, as we live in Keller, and ride most of the routes frequently.

Ken is right that the bike course is not at all difficult.  There are a few "inclines", not really hills since they don't last more than a minute or two to get up.  the roads are in great condition, so its plenty safe.  The run is on the trails in Bear Creek Park.  We run there multiple times per week.  There are only 2 small bumps on the trail, one shortly after you get onto the trail, and one shortly before the turn around. 

If it weren't for IMAZ this year, i'd be doing it again!



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Hey everyone. This particular race is also my first tri. As far as the swim goes, I have been swimming at a fairly shallow pool (4ft) at my local 24hr fitness. Is there a local pool (I live in Denton; not too far from Keller) that I can practice in a few times that is the same as the one in this race? Is the Natatorium pool available for practicing? Also I saw that someone mentioned kick turns. I was under the impression that these were not allowed. I've been practicing them somewhat but not too much since this was my understanding. Also want as much info as possible on this course. Unfortunately when I signed up for this race, I put my 300m time as it stood over month ago, and it's since drastically improved. How will this affect me during the race?

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colemanford - 2008-02-11 8:52 AM Hey everyone. This particular race is also my first tri. As far as the swim goes, I have been swimming at a fairly shallow pool (4ft) at my local 24hr fitness. Is there a local pool (I live in Denton; not too far from Keller) that I can practice in a few times that is the same as the one in this race? Is the Natatorium pool available for practicing? Also I saw that someone mentioned kick turns. I was under the impression that these were not allowed. I've been practicing them somewhat but not too much since this was my understanding. Also want as much info as possible on this course. Unfortunately when I signed up for this race, I put my 300m time as it stood over month ago, and it's since drastically improved. How will this affect me during the race?

 

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2008-02-11 10:10 AM
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Is it too late to sign up for this event? I was thinking of doing it.
2008-02-11 10:12 AM
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If they run the race the same way they did last year, you'll be lucky enough to have an entire lane to yourself each direction.  There were no head on collisions, and that would make using a flip turn very easy.
2008-02-11 10:21 AM
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They are limiting it to 350 slots, but I am not sure that it is full yet.


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morgenrr - 2008-02-11 9:31 AM

colemanford - 2008-02-11 8:52 AM Hey everyone. This particular race is also my first tri. As far as the swim goes, I have been swimming at a fairly shallow pool (4ft) at my local 24hr fitness. Is there a local pool (I live in Denton; not too far from Keller) that I can practice in a few times that is the same as the one in this race? Is the Natatorium pool available for practicing? Also I saw that someone mentioned kick turns. I was under the impression that these were not allowed. I've been practicing them somewhat but not too much since this was my understanding. Also want as much info as possible on this course. Unfortunately when I signed up for this race, I put my 300m time as it stood over month ago, and it's since drastically improved. How will this affect me during the race?

 

http://www.cityofdenton.com/pages/hoursandprices.cfm 



Thanks so much! This is exactly what I needed.
2008-02-11 11:09 AM
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Another quick question. I'm looking at purchasing a set of Profile Aerobars for the ride. How necessary are these for a first time tri-er for this particular race. I have an older Cannondale road bike and was thinking of adding these for a little more edge. Thoughts/Suggestions? I won't spend the money right now if you guys think it's not necessary at this point in my beginner triathlon career.
2008-02-11 11:23 AM
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Don't worry about the aerobars unless you think that you have a reasonable shot at placing in the top 3 of your age group on your first tri. (pun intended)  Aerobars take practice to use properly and that time and money, at least at first, can be better used doing extra laps in the pool.
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colemanford - 2008-02-11 11:09 AM Another quick question. I'm looking at purchasing a set of Profile Aerobars for the ride. How necessary are these for a first time tri-er for this particular race. I have an older Cannondale road bike and was thinking of adding these for a little more edge. Thoughts/Suggestions? I won't spend the money right now if you guys think it's not necessary at this point in my beginner triathlon career.
They are not necessary but very helpfull.  If you have time to ride on before definately get them.  I just bought new ones at performance bike in plano for around a C note.
2008-02-12 1:49 PM
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Clip on aerobars will help you save your legs on the run. You'll be more aero, so you'll be faster.

However, if you don't already have clipless pedals on your bike, I would get them first.



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apw0397 - 2008-02-12 1:49 PM

Clip on aerobars will help you save your legs on the run. You'll be more aero, so you'll be faster.

However, if you don't already have clipless pedals on your bike, I would get them first.



I do have clipless pedals and despite mixed suggestions, I think I'm gonna go ahead a pick up a pair of clip on aero bars. Thanks for all the info!
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colemanford - 2008-02-12 3:14 PM

apw0397 - 2008-02-12 1:49 PM

Clip on aerobars will help you save your legs on the run. You'll be more aero, so you'll be faster.

However, if you don't already have clipless pedals on your bike, I would get them first.



I do have clipless pedals and despite mixed suggestions, I think I'm gonna go ahead a pick up a pair of clip on aero bars. Thanks for all the info!


Do I need to get bar tape when I purchase aero bars?
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colemanford - 2008-02-12 3:20 PM
colemanford - 2008-02-12 3:14 PM
apw0397 - 2008-02-12 1:49 PM

Clip on aerobars will help you save your legs on the run. You'll be more aero, so you'll be faster.

However, if you don't already have clipless pedals on your bike, I would get them first.

I do have clipless pedals and despite mixed suggestions, I think I'm gonna go ahead a pick up a pair of clip on aero bars. Thanks for all the info!
Do I need to get bar tape when I purchase aero bars?
It depends on what kind you buy.  My first set (don't remember the brand but I will look) had foam on them.  The ones on my tri bike  needed bar wrap.
2008-02-21 6:40 PM
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Alright, I convinced my dad to sign up for this instead of another du, so we will both be there. It will be my first tri of the season.

Can't wait for the bagpipes in transition!!! haha
2008-02-22 6:20 PM
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bkarhu and I are signed up for this as our first race of the season and a warm up (shake those transition cob webs loose!) to the Playtri HIM in April.  It will be my new tri bike's debut, so that should be fun. 

Who all is signed up for this race, and is anyone making a BT meeting point on race day?

Chris



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Just registered for this race!  WIll be my first TEXAS race!  Just moved here from another state, so excited to check out the Tri Scene here.

Got a buddy joining in on the fun as well.

Hope it's warm on Race day!

 

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smeador - 2008-02-11 10:21 AM They are limiting it to 350 slots, but I am not sure that it is full yet.

As of this morning, 2/24/2008, the webpage indicates approximately 100 slots still remaining.

I've done a pool swim event several times, what are they doing for start intervals - 5 seconds, 10 seconds?  Just wondering.

 

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UTTriman - 2008-02-24 8:31 AM

smeador - 2008-02-11 10:21 AM They are limiting it to 350 slots, but I am not sure that it is full yet.

As of this morning, 2/24/2008, the webpage indicates approximately 100 slots still remaining.

I've done a pool swim event several times, what are they doing for start intervals - 5 seconds, 10 seconds?  Just wondering.

 

They start around 5seconds for the fast swimmers but I think they pick it up the closer they get to the end.
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We are not doing the race, but we plan to go, since we live in Keller, and this is right in our backyard.

A good meeting spot that is definitive in the facility is the steps.  there are 2 sets of steps as you walk into the door.  Figure the right set of steps, as it will probably be cold in the morning, and everyone will want to be inside before the start.

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