HR advice and HIM race planning
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2008-03-02 12:57 AM |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: HR advice and HIM race planning My training for an April HIM is going very well and I have been following my plan diligently. But now I want to start thinking about my actual race plan. I have read that for a full IM, one would like to stay in Z2 for most/all of the race. Is that the same strategy for an HIM as well? I thought that was going to be my approach until today’s long ride. I decided to just ride, and not pay attention to the HRM and just go by feel. I had a good ride, felt strong throughout, and got back home feeling good enough to run if it were a race. It wouldn’t have been my best run, but I could have knocked it out pretty well. I downloaded my garmin and was surprised to find that I spent 1/3 of my time in Z2, 1/3 in Z3, and 1/3 in Z4. Not once did I exceed my LT of 173.So does sound right for an HIM? Stay below LT and split your time between Z2/Z3 and Z4? Or should I hold back a little more? I know everyone is different, but any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks....
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2008-03-02 8:42 AM in reply to: #1246592 |
Expert 686 oregon ave, | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning I once read something to the effect of staying in zone one to mid two until about 4 miles into the run then bump up to zone three to mid four then the last 2-3 miles bust loose. However since my first HIM is this summer too my goals is steady and slow to finish. I am sure experience and knowing your body has a lot to do with this. Good luck! |
2008-03-02 8:47 AM in reply to: #1246592 |
Extreme Veteran 370 Arnhem | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning I've only done one HIM. I stayed in Z2 for the bike and had a great run. For my next HIM race I plan to go a little harder on the bike (high Z2 low Z3). I may not be as fast on the run, but overall I think I will gain time that way. |
2008-03-02 9:07 AM in reply to: #1246592 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning If this is your first HIM, I would suggest staying in zone 2 or lower for the entire ride; as you gain experience at the distance you can experiment with some bouts of higher intensity on the ride but going too hard on the bike is very easy to do. Ideally your HIM run should be within 5-10' of your open half mary which requires a very well paced and conservative ride in order to accomplish. Shane |
2008-03-02 10:11 AM in reply to: #1246592 |
Expert 924 Louisville, KY | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning Here's a link to a Mike Ricci article which directly addresses your questions http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=1158 |
2008-03-03 11:58 AM in reply to: #1246863 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning Thanks all. This is my second HIM and I know I went out too hard for my first one. Not all my fault though, the course is so hard, that it's impossible for me to stay in Z2 on all the long and steep climbs (with my current bike set-up). I wish I could read the article, but I'm not a performance member - I was thinking of signing up anyway. I'm thinking that I want to stay in high Z2/low Z3 and see what happens. Thanks again... |
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2008-03-03 12:26 PM in reply to: #1249091 |
Champion 9407 Montague Gold Mines, Nova Scotia | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning Aikidoman - 2008-03-03 1:58 PM I'm thinking that I want to stay in high Z2/low Z3 and see what happens. Unless you are planning on being done the course under 3 hours, I would avoid z3 on the bike altogether. If you do go to zone 3, I would say no more than the last 20-30' of the ride - otherwise you are setting up a long shuffle/walk. Shane |
2008-03-03 12:44 PM in reply to: #1246592 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning Aikidoman - 2008-03-02 12:57 AM My training for an April HIM is going very well and I have been following my plan diligently. But now I want to start thinking about my actual race plan. Your ability to race any given distance will be a direct function of your current fitness level. IOW a fitter person will be able to race at a higher intensity than a less trained individual for the simple fact that the his/her fitness will should him to complete the race in a shorter period of time (assuming other variables are taking care of such as proper pacing, nutrition, etc)I have read that for a full IM, one would like to stay in Z2 for most/all of the race. Is that the same strategy for an HIM as well? I thought that was going to be my approach until today’s long ride. I decided to just ride, and not pay attention to the HRM and just go by feel. I had a good ride, felt strong throughout, and got back home feeling good enough to run if it were a race. It wouldn’t have been my best run, but I could have knocked it out pretty well. I downloaded my garmin and was surprised to find that I spent 1/3 of my time in Z2, 1/3 in Z3, and 1/3 in Z4. Not once did I exceed my LT of 173.So does sound right for an HIM? Stay below LT and split your time between Z2/Z3 and Z4? Or should I hold back a little more? I know everyone is different, but any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks.... In general for an AG should be able to race an HIM between his endurance pace (Z2) and just below his LT (Z4); again which specific range will depend on your current fitness level leading up to the race. The way to find out what is most likely the best intensity for you can be estimated through your long training sessions (as you did) and race rehearsals. Perform some race specific sessions @ race pace and based on your performance adjust your strategy |
2008-03-03 12:54 PM in reply to: #1249208 |
Sensei Sin City | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning Thanks Jorge, I may try to get a couple mile run in after my next long bike. I might have felt more refreshed than reality. I felt fine after the ride, but I would be more certain if I ran 2 to 3 miles at race pace and guaged how I felt then. Good idea, thanks.... |
2008-03-03 1:11 PM in reply to: #1246592 |
Coach 10487 Boston, MA | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning some HIM race rehearsal ideas: swim 20 min (HIM pace) + bike 2-3 hr with at least half 1 hr HIM pace + 40 min run half at HIM or run 30 min easy + bike 2-3 hr with at least 1hr at HIM pace + 30 min run with 20 min HIM pace |
2008-03-03 2:07 PM in reply to: #1246592 |
Expert 623 Wye Mills, MD | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning Your question got me curious, so FWIW, I looked up a race from last year. My zone breakdowns were as follows - My key race prep workouts are probably longer than normally prescribed. I like to work up to a 60 mile bike/10-12 mile run brick about 2 weeks out from race day. The bike I go by feel, and keep the run pegged at upper Z2. IMO, I get a sense of what I'm going to go through fatigue and nutrition-wise come race day. If I'm going to be out there for 5 hrs, I don't want my longest workout to be 4 hrs. |
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2008-03-03 9:30 PM in reply to: #1246592 |
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2008-03-04 6:29 AM in reply to: #1250461 |
Master 2202 Canton, Michigan | Subject: RE: HR advice and HIM race planning PennState - 2008-03-03 10:30 PM My first HIM last year I did the following: Bike Z3/Z4. This worked well for me... but I was reasonably fit last year as well. Targeting Z2 is probably smarter, but as Jorge says... it depends on your fitness Penn, did you follow one of the BT programs last year or other methods to train for your first HIM. Akido, joining BT gives you some choices for training plans. After following the last several weeks of an Oly plan last year and having my best races ever, I'm doing there 20 week HIM plan for my first HIM in July. Having focused planned training is something I needed to improve. |