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2008-03-20 1:00 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 1:18 PM
madkat - 2008-03-20 12:19 PM

I had a friend who taught at Harvard for a while, and he loved it.  His only complaints were the weather, and the lack of "good Chinese food".

Mmmm..China Pearl in Chinatown - dim-sum....I miss Boston

China Pearl is the best restaurant for Dim Sum in Boston but comparing to NYC or San Francisco, it still sucks.  But I have a different standard. 

I have lived in the Metro Boston area for the past 10 years and like it a lot. Rent can be high, but manageable - single income and ok to rent an apartment by myself.  Houses are old.  They look old.  May not be very appealing at first glance.  Buildings in the 80s are considered new.  You might find it rediculous to pay that amount of rent for an old apartment. 

If you don't like winter, don't come here.  But as I have said before, I love NE with for its change of seasons.  Winter is cold enough to ski and summer is warm enough to OWS.  Beaches and ski resorts are within 2 hrs drive.  The fall is beautful.

Roads are old and full of portholes, but drivers are generally nice to cyclists.  They are only rude to fellow drivers.  People are typical city folks that seems cold initially.  Population is pretty diverse, especially in the college areas, which is the entire Boston. 

Overall Boston is a city with culture (BSO, theatre) and athletics.  And we have great sport teams. 



2008-03-20 1:00 PM
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Pros: Beautiful city. Great history. Great resaturants (especially if you like seafood). On the ocean.

Cons: Very expensive. Terrible winters.

Extreme Cons: Lots of hard people. The single most evil sports franchise on earth, made worse by the fact that they now have tons of bandwagon fans from recent WS wins.

2008-03-20 1:02 PM
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2008-03-20 1:06 PM
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MUL98 - 2008-03-20 2:00 PM Extreme Cons: Lots of hard people. 

New Englanders/East Coasters are like this in general though (all the way down to DC). But people are actually very nice once you get to know them. And compared to NYC'ers, Boston folk are laid back. There are snobs everywhere - plenty of snobs in the Southeast, too.

And FWIW, I was a Sox fan before they won in 2004

2008-03-20 1:13 PM
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D.K. - 2008-03-20 2:00 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 1:18 PM
madkat - 2008-03-20 12:19 PM

I had a friend who taught at Harvard for a while, and he loved it.  His only complaints were the weather, and the lack of "good Chinese food".

Mmmm..China Pearl in Chinatown - dim-sum....I miss Boston

China Pearl is the best restaurant for Dim Sum in Boston but comparing to NYC or San Francisco, it still sucks.  But I have a different standard. 

 

True - Chinese food sucks worse in DC though - so I miss China Pearl. And there is no good Italian food here either.

 

Man, this thread REALLY makes me miss Boston   I have considered moving back....

2008-03-20 1:17 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 10:54 AM I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there

This is the debate I'm internally having about applying for a promotion to Providence right now. I can't turn it down if I get it... (it hasn't been advertised yet).

The whole area has a lot of awesome aspects, but what if I don't like it? I'll have to stay at least two years... and transferring out may not be all that easy.

I'm not wild about California, but at least I'm not freezing my butt off for 6 months of the year right now. 



2008-03-20 1:17 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 10:54 AM I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there

This is the debate I'm internally having about applying for a promotion to Providence right now. I can't turn it down if I get it... (it hasn't been advertised yet).

The whole area has a lot of awesome aspects, but what if I don't like it? I'll have to stay at least two years... and transferring out may not be all that easy.

I'm not wild about California, but at least I'm not freezing my butt off for 6 months of the year right now. 

2008-03-20 1:19 PM
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spokes - 2008-03-20 2:02 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 10:54 AM I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there

This is the debate I'm internally having about applying for a promotion to Providence right now. I can't turn it down if I get it... (it hasn't been advertised yet).

The whole area has a lot of awesome aspects, but what if I don't like it? I'll have to stay at least two years... and transferring out may not be all that easy.

I'm not wild about California, but at least I'm not freezing my butt off for 6 months of the year right now. 

Come on! If I can live in Pennsyltucky for 2 years, you can definitely live in N.H.! 2 years is a drop in the bucket.

Now what is depressing is that AFTER the 2 years of research (if we do decide to go to Boston), we have to come back to Central PA for THREE years for him to finish his 5 yr residency. Um....I don't think I will be going back. He can meet me in Fla. when he's done.

2008-03-20 1:21 PM
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spokes - 2008-03-20 2:02 PM

wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 10:54 AM I should also add that if you're only going to be there for 2 years - MOVE THERE. Seriously. For only two years, there is plenty of awesomeness to outweight any of the less-awesome aspects. And then you can say you lived there

This is the debate I'm internally having about applying for a promotion to Providence right now. I can't turn it down if I get it... (it hasn't been advertised yet).

The whole area has a lot of awesome aspects, but what if I don't like it? I'll have to stay at least two years... and transferring out may not be all that easy.

I'm not wild about California, but at least I'm not freezing my butt off for 6 months of the year right now. 

Come on! If I can live in Pennsyltucky for 2 years, you can definitely live in N.H.! 2 years is a drop in the bucket.

Now what is depressing is that AFTER the 2 years of research (if we do decide to go to Boston), we have to come back to Central PA for THREE years for him to finish his 5 yr residency. Um....I don't think I will be going back. He can meet me in Fla. when he's done.


Actually, Providence is in Rhode Island BTW - if you move to Boston, NH is 2 hours away where liquor is really cheap and sold on the interstate. And they saw New Englanders are stodgy...

Oh, there is also no sales tax on clothes under $100 (per item, not total purchase) in Massachusetts.



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2008-03-20 1:32 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 1:06 PM

MUL98 - 2008-03-20 2:00 PM Extreme Cons: Lots of hard people. 

New Englanders/East Coasters are like this in general though (all the way down to DC). But people are actually very nice once you get to know them. And compared to NYC'ers, Boston folk are laid back. There are snobs everywhere - plenty of snobs in the Southeast, too.

And FWIW, I was a Sox fan before they won in 2004



I'm originally from NY - and I while I agree that east coasters are a difficult bunch - Bostonians are in my opinion worse than most of the rest of the east coast. Worse than NY.

2008-03-20 1:43 PM
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2008-03-20 1:47 PM
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spokes - 2008-03-20 2:43 PM

 

Minneapolis - full of uptight snobs. Hated it. Glad I was only there 7 weeks.

 

HEY now. Watch yourself! Minneapolis f'ing ROCKS!

2008-03-20 1:56 PM
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spokes - 2008-03-20 2:43 PM

 

Minneapolis - full of uptight snobs. Hated it. Glad I was only there 7 weeks.

 

HEY now. Watch yourself! Minneapolis f'ing ROCKS!

Did you see the What not to Wear episode that ran the other week about the 22 yo girl in Minneapolis? She was really punk-y looking and they cleaned her up and whoa, did she look beautiful at the end.

I love that stupid show...except for that ugly white stripe of hair Stacey has. What's up with that??

2008-03-20 2:18 PM
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wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 11:28 AM
GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 1:14 PM

Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?

Yes. And yes and no. You can find better deals if you don't look "downtown", but rather along the Green Line in Boston (Brookline, Allston/Brighton) or the Red Line in Cambridge (Davis Square, Porter Square).  (Keep in mind that Cambridge is a different city and some Cambridge-ites hate it when you refer to it as "Boston" - ie, Harvard folk. The MIT folk are cool and don't care). Some are small, some are not. Thing is, apartments in Boston are just kind of created out of buildings that have been there forever. For example in Davis Square, there are tons of old houses where each floor is an apartment, and is rented out. And some of those are quite reasonable - my ex-boyfriend who was a PhD student lived in one of those with one other guy - the whole thing was like $1100 a month, and it was 2 bedrooms, a nice kitchen, a small den, a living room and a dining room. I lived in a building in Back Bay that had obviously been there for a long time - there was no standard unit layout for the building. Spaces were just sort of created. My studio apartment was rather large - some of the others were not. Mine cost as much as my ex-boyfriend's whole place.

I second the Davis/Porter square suggestions for the following reasons:

1. Closer to the edge of town and better biking.
2. Red line is WAY faster than the Green Line.  You'll pull your hair out on the green line.
3. Fewer students than the Allston/Brighton area (I lived in the A/B area).  Students are stupid and annoying and crowded.
4. "Classier" feel to that side of the river.

Brookline would be cool too...but again it's probably pricier.  In general apartments ARE expensive...but you just have to look around for a good deal and spend TIME looking.  I was rushed getting my first apartment and paid and arm and a leg...but my second apartment was MUCH nicer and much cheaper because I had enough time to look.

2008-03-20 2:24 PM
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jldicarlo - 2008-03-20 3:18 PM
wurkit_gurl - 2008-03-20 11:28 AM
GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 1:14 PM

Are there apartments in the city? Are they insanely expensive?

Yes. And yes and no. You can find better deals if you don't look "downtown", but rather along the Green Line in Boston (Brookline, Allston/Brighton) or the Red Line in Cambridge (Davis Square, Porter Square).  (Keep in mind that Cambridge is a different city and some Cambridge-ites hate it when you refer to it as "Boston" - ie, Harvard folk. The MIT folk are cool and don't care). Some are small, some are not. Thing is, apartments in Boston are just kind of created out of buildings that have been there forever. For example in Davis Square, there are tons of old houses where each floor is an apartment, and is rented out. And some of those are quite reasonable - my ex-boyfriend who was a PhD student lived in one of those with one other guy - the whole thing was like $1100 a month, and it was 2 bedrooms, a nice kitchen, a small den, a living room and a dining room. I lived in a building in Back Bay that had obviously been there for a long time - there was no standard unit layout for the building. Spaces were just sort of created. My studio apartment was rather large - some of the others were not. Mine cost as much as my ex-boyfriend's whole place.

I second the Davis/Porter square suggestions for the following reasons:

1. Closer to the edge of town and better biking.
2. Red line is WAY faster than the Green Line.  You'll pull your hair out on the green line.
3. Fewer students than the Allston/Brighton area (I lived in the A/B area).  Students are stupid and annoying and crowded.
4. "Classier" feel to that side of the river.

Brookline would be cool too...but again it's probably pricier.  In general apartments ARE expensive...but you just have to look around for a good deal and spend TIME looking.  I was rushed getting my first apartment and paid and arm and a leg...but my second apartment was MUCH nicer and much cheaper because I had enough time to look.

I should also add - it's a major, albeit smaller, city. All major cities are expensive - Chicago, DC, etc. NYC is in a class of its own ridiculousness. But my point is that you can expect major city pricing in Boston. If you look though, yeah, you can find some awesome deals. And I don't even really know much about the 'burbs further out, like Arlington, Medford, Somerville, etc.

2008-03-20 2:31 PM
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GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-20 2:56 PM
 

..except for that ugly white stripe of hair Stacey has. What's up with that??

I think it's a natural streak of white. I think this is common in people of either scottish or irish ancestry. Jay Leno had the white stripe too, but now it's dark. As did the guy who was Elaine's boss on Seinfield. I think it was J. Peterman?



2008-03-20 9:15 PM
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you could also live out on the North Shore (Lynn, Beverly, Essex) or Plymouth and take the subway or the commuter rail into Harvard.

 

2008-03-20 9:21 PM
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And you have the New England BT Mafia...that should be reason enough to want to make the pilgrimage to the northeast!  We promise to only haze you a little bit. 

 

2008-03-20 9:47 PM
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max - 2008-03-20 10:21 PM

And you have the New England BT Mafia...that should be reason enough to want to make the pilgrimage to the northeast! We promise to only haze you a little bit.

 

wait a minute...are we trying to scare them away or encourage them to come?  I can't tell! 

2008-03-21 6:44 AM
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Harvard's teaching hospitals and research areas are the Longwood medical area - NOT cambridge.....so only near the people's republic of brookline....

 

Brighton, Allston, Jamaica Plain and Brookline are the most popular areas for those doing post-docs, research and residencies to live. And that puts you near much of what I was saying in earlier post. Not that you could not live any of the places people said, but they were all trying to put you on an easy commute to Harvard cambridge side and that is not where Barry would be.



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2008-03-21 7:07 AM
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I worked for six years in Allston/Brighton. If you want info on the best car washes, let me know. Allston Brighton is still expensive.

As far as comparisons to other cities, Boston is still the most expensive. Year after year, study after study, Boston comes out on top. Maybe not in absolute terms - a 2 bedroom apartment in NYC might be more expensive than the same apt in Boston - but when all factors on considered, Boston is the most expensive city in the US to live in. You just need to be aware of that and understand that if you have certain living expectations and standards, you might find it hard to maintain that.

If you live inside of 95 (break out your map), you find expensive housing, and few cycling options. Yes, you can ride on Mass Ave, but you really don't WANT to. To get to a place with conditions you are used to riding in (I am assuming country roads - I've been to State College a few times so I know), you need to get outside of 95, and probably outside of 495. Also remember that getting from inside of 95 to outside of 495 is not as easy as a straight line. Boston and the burbs are old.

As many folks have posted, there are a lot of great things in Boston. Just be aware that you will have to make many sacrifices if you want to mix "coutry" living with big city living. If you are excited about the prospect of living in the city with a great night life, lots of fun options, ethnic experiences, Boston is a great place for it. Just be aware that you will be paying a lot of money for a crappy apartment in a cool and/or convenient place to live.


2008-03-21 7:11 AM
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If the "pricy-ness" of Brookline/Newton or those cities/towns within 5 miles radius of Boston scare you, try Waltham, Watertown and Medford.  A little further away is Woburn, which is in between 2 major interstates.  I lived in Waltham for 5 years.  Very convenient. 
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Cool. Thanks everyone. I am going to keep this thread bookmarked when it does come time to making our decision. I'm guessing Barry is going to have to decide probably by June of this year, where he is going to do research. He also has an interview at UF in May, and I'm hoping he considers more places in Fla., but it's good to know Boston has a lot going on. It HAS to be better than where we are currently living. I don't "do" rural well. I'm a city gal!
2008-03-21 8:14 AM
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Just keep reminding yourself: wherever you end up next year will be SO MUCH BETTER than where you are THIS year ...

GatorGirl22 - 2008-03-21 8:44 AM Cool. Thanks everyone. I am going to keep this thread bookmarked when it does come time to making our decision. I'm guessing Barry is going to have to decide probably by June of this year, where he is going to do research. He also has an interview at UF in May, and I'm hoping he considers more places in Fla., but it's good to know Boston has a lot going on. It HAS to be better than where we are currently living. I don't "do" rural well. I'm a city gal!

2008-03-21 9:19 AM
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You know what I think!!    Next time you come to FL we'll have to meet to talk about it - I cna talk for days about why I love Boston. 

Oh wait, I can talk for days about most anything.  Anyway... 

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