Tri rule that I just don't get
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2004-12-19 2:57 PM |
Subject: Tri rule that I just don't get I read this in "A Message from the Head Referee to all age-group competitors" (http://www.beginnertriathlete.com/cms/article-detail.asp?articleid=209) in the Race Day Training Tips I don't understand this rule: --Always have your chinstrap securely fastened! The chinstrap rule is the easiest to follow, but some folks always seem to forget – that’s a DQ! This applies to before and after the race as well while at the race venue site (even warming up or going back to your car after the race).-- How can you have your helmet on after the race and back to your car?? I must be missing something. |
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2004-12-19 3:03 PM in reply to: #94175 |
Champion 4902 Ottawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get The rule is simple enought to understand ... it is a matter of insurance stipulations!!!!!! After an event, I etiher ride home on my bike or I ride it to my car, which could be a kilometer away. If I am injured while I am leaving the event, I could conceivably sue the organizers. Hence, if comptetitors are threatened with disqualification for not wearing a helmet and having the strap secured, they are more likely to comply with the rule. I have never had a problem with the helmet rule as I do not go a block on my bike without it. |
2004-12-19 3:11 PM in reply to: #94175 |
Online or Offline | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get I think you read it literally like I did. It probably should read "even if you are not racing, while RIDING back and forth to your car, always wear your helmet with the chinstrap fastened". That head ref sounded like he was expecting you to swim with the helmet on too! |
2004-12-19 3:51 PM in reply to: #94175 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get Of course it means WHEN YOU ARE ON THE BIKE, silly goose. When in doubt, go to the source (USA Triathlon) rather than someone's
By the way, Keith, your avatar is not visible. Edited by the bear 2004-12-19 3:56 PM |
2004-12-19 4:15 PM in reply to: #94181 |
Veteran 206 Woodbridge, VA | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get Is there an online site where I can get a copy of all the tri rules??? Thanks |
2004-12-19 4:36 PM in reply to: #94189 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get USA Triathlon has their rule book online here: |
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2004-12-19 5:23 PM in reply to: #94181 |
Expert 936 Westchester County NY | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get b) Chin Strap Violations. The helmet must be fastened before the participant first mounts the bicycle, at all times when the participant is on the bicycle, and must not be unfastened until the participant has dismounted. Any violation of this Section 5.9(b) which occurs while the participant is in the transition area shall result in a variable time penalty. Any other violation of this Section shall result in disqualification. This Section 5.9(b) shall be enforced at all times while at the event site on race day. Note the section in red. What this means is you must have the chinstrap fastened even before you leave transition with the bike, and it must stay fastened until you get back to your rack. No saving time unfastening while running back to the rack. That's where you get hit with the time penalty. It's confusing because in the first line they talk about mounting and dismounting the bike, so if you don't read the line about being in transition you may think it's okay to unfasten it before getting back to your rack. |
2004-12-19 5:40 PM in reply to: #94208 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get No saving time unfastening while running back to the rack. I've been told different, that the strap had to be buckled only as long as your leg was over the top bar of the bike. The section you have in red just distinguishes the penalties: time in the transition area, DQ outside transition. Read the previous sentence:
I would interpret "running back to the rack" as occurring after "the participant has dismounted." |
2004-12-19 8:09 PM in reply to: #94212 |
32 | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get As others have said, the basic is: if you're on your bike anytime on race day (one leg thrown over the top bar), you need to have your helmet on and buckled. I think the part about a time penalty in transition (vs. DQ out on n course) is historical, dating back to when races allowed you to ride the bike in transition. Nowadays, most directors don't allow you to ride there; you need to walk/run/carry your bike to beyond the mount line, and get off the bike before you hit the dismount line when you come back in. |
2004-12-19 8:45 PM in reply to: #94175 |
Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get Yeah I guess I'm a little slow!! That all makes sense now. Can anyone see my avatar? Am I doing something wrong?? |
2004-12-19 8:46 PM in reply to: #94243 |
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2004-12-19 9:30 PM in reply to: #94243 |
Resident Curmudgeon 25290 The Road Back | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get Now you look like Jack Skelington from A Nightmare before Christmas. Quite an improvement over a white box with a red x Edited by the bear 2004-12-19 9:30 PM |
2004-12-19 10:09 PM in reply to: #94244 |
Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get Lara_SD - 2004-12-19 8:46 PM unless you are a white box with a red X.... your avatar isn't showing up Hey Lara (and bear), check out my personal picture. How'd you know!! (me.bmp) Attachments ---------------- me.bmp (16KB - 18 downloads) |
2004-12-20 12:13 AM in reply to: #94175 |
Member 37 Canberra, Australia | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get The rule in Oz, DQ if you unrack your bike without helmut buckled & have to rack it before unbuckling....keeps it simple! Keith, heaps better pic. |
2004-12-20 10:31 AM in reply to: #94175 |
Champion 5495 Whizzzzzlandia | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get I just always keep my helmet on.... I try to remember to take it off while swimming, though... Insurance purposes. |
2004-12-20 11:51 AM in reply to: #94175 |
Champion 4902 Ottawa, Ontario | Subject: RE: Tri rule that I just don't get The rule for helmets are slightly different from one area to the next and from one organizer to the next. My local triathlon organizer, Somersault Productions, stipulates: Bicycle Helmets: The Ontario Assiociation of Triathletes stipulates: E.3.3 Helmet Alterations |
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