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2008-06-04 10:10 AM
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Not right off hand.  It was just something that was talked about after the Chicago marathon fiasco and some of the resident physiologists chimed in on it and said that.  Logically it makes total sense as you will have created another layer of substance on your body besides your sweat that then has to be evaporated off.  Think of the thin layer of water that is trapped by a wetsuit that helps to actually insulate and warm you up when you are wearing one.

(Oh, as an aside, I'm really thinking about doing Savageman this year!)



2008-06-04 11:51 AM
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Daremo - 2008-06-04 11:10 AM

Not right off hand.  It was just something that was talked about after the Chicago marathon fiasco and some of the resident physiologists chimed in on it and said that.  Logically it makes total sense as you will have created another layer of substance on your body besides your sweat that then has to be evaporated off.  Think of the thin layer of water that is trapped by a wetsuit that helps to actually insulate and warm you up when you are wearing one.

(Oh, as an aside, I'm really thinking about doing Savageman this year!)



This site is a couple of years old but the author does recommend occasionally cold water over your head to help cool you down:

http://www.coolrunning.com/engine/2/2_1/hot-weather-running.shtml

I hear what you're saying but think the primary factor will be the humidity. The higher the humidity, the harder it is to evaporate moisture away from your body. I served a short while in Saudi Arabia where the relative humidity is extremely low (10% or lower). We had a swimming pool there and coming out of it, you got really chilled even though it was over 100.

And unfortunately, it will be rather humid on raceday. Two possible related weather phenom that could save us is that a sea breeze from the bay might start up since the bay's kinda chilly still and maybe a very isolated shower (but that's not as likely).

For more on recognizing heat problems:

http://walkingrunning.suite101.com/article.cfm/runners_guide_to_hea...

BTW, one thing folks may want to consider is at least trying to wipe away excess sweat from your face and skin if you can. Read this in some cycling circles somewhere indicating the salt and oils will tend to clog your pores cutting down on your ability to cool via sweat. So perhaps moisten a towel, wash your face, and dry it a bit to allow sweat to start again would help.

For those who want to follow the weather forecast:

http://www.erh.noaa.gov/akq/

You can click on the map to the NW of Salisbury and get the latest forecast for Cambridge. Once you do that, you can also get an hourly weather graph from the Additional Forecasts & Information section lower in the page.

I never thought I'd think about having rain again during an event after the deluge I faced in the Kinetic Sprint this April. But looking at the forecast, I might actually prefer a bit of rain instead.

Everyone keep cool, prepare for the heat, and be safe!

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2008-06-05 2:53 PM
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Has anyone heard anything about how cambridge was hit by the storms we got yesterday? Does that change anything?
2008-06-05 9:29 PM
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eyeofthetiger2007 - 2008-06-05 3:53 PM

Has anyone heard anything about how cambridge was hit by the storms we got yesterday? Does that change anything?


Report from the Storm Prediction Center - "TELEPHONE POLES AND TREES KNOCKED DOWN ACROSS DORCHESTER COUNTY. PEA SIZED HAIL IN CHURCH CREEK." Church Creek is along the bike course. But, considering they'll have 3 days to clean up, probably doesn't change anything much, if at all. There was a good amount of tree damage throughout MD and VA, but everything seemed fairly okay considering. Mostly trees and wires down which crews were getting to pretty well. There might still be some light tree debris here and there and broken limbs by the roadside. Saw a few reports to the north of Cambridge as well. Didn't see any structure damage reports, though there might've been minor damages that went unreported (like limbs, signs blown away, etc). So, unless something was badly damaged that affected the course or a part of the race equipment that wasn't reported, we probably won't see any changes.
2008-06-05 10:02 PM
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The majority of the bike course is open with only some portions going through some lightly wooded areas.  Any trees that might have been blown over would be easy to clean up.  And since the area is always hit with constant winds, the trees are pretty much used to it.

Last year at Chessieman there was a brush fire that ended up shutting off about 7 miles of the course after they re-routed the field (except for the leaders who had to actually ride through it ... see Joel's race report) and a few people like myself who got stuck in no man's land and made it past the new re-routing before they turned me around and I had to go back ..... so that would be more of a worry then downed trees!

I wouldn't worry about the bike course.  I'd worry about what all the rain and debris does to the Choptank.

2008-06-06 8:51 AM
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Daremo - 2008-06-05 11:02 PM

I wouldn't worry about the bike course.  I'd worry about what all the rain and debris does to the Choptank.

You know, it SEEMS like I should be comforted by this sentance, but I'm... not.



2008-06-06 1:08 PM
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For those of you heading out to Eagleman today and need to take 50:

http://www.wtop.com/?nid=25&sid=1416766

An 8 mile stretch of 50 is barricaded and closed for "something" going on in a home.

2008-06-06 5:37 PM
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yeah someone was held up he killed his wife or something. I called my homestay people to let me know and they gave me the heads up on the way now. thankfully I didn't get stuck in it. Just the shore traffic to Rehobeth....4 hours of sitting.
2008-06-07 8:09 AM
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On my way out of here (home) in a few hours.  Much less traffic on a Saturday morning then on Friday afternoon!
2008-06-09 8:52 AM
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So, how did it turn out everyone? Did everybody make it through the heat and humidity okay?

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2008-06-09 9:00 AM
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Major meltdown for me but I finished.


2008-06-09 3:51 PM
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I p.r. and got first for my age group but missed Kona by three places. Oh well, maybe next year. I couldn't afford it anyway. I am just happy I finished around mile 5 of the run I seriously thought about dropping out. It was so hot that I almost died from overheating.
2008-06-09 9:29 PM
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Every age group had at least one Kona slot.  If you won your age group you got a slot.
2008-06-09 9:58 PM
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Except 17-18 was merged with 20-24 so a few twenty somethings beat me out. Oh well.
2008-06-09 10:29 PM
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That sucks!  How can they combine age groups like that with Kona slots?  No worries, sounds like you should be able to qualify in the future.
2008-06-10 7:35 AM
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How long should I take off until I begin training again? I am thinking just a few days, but is that turn around too short?


2008-06-10 6:28 PM
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Anybody know when registration opens for 2009...think I'm going to make this my primary tri for next year.
2008-06-12 10:50 AM
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Sorry, missed this thread for a while.

First, congrats to all the racers who endured that weather!  I was white water rafting in WV getting soaked by cool mountain water, and even that was HOT.  I can only imagine...

Back to dumping/cooling.  The primary way your body cools itself is by sweat evaporating, which draws heat away.  Unless my logic is wrong, dumping cold water on yourself accelerates the process (it doesn't need to cool through evaporation, just draws heat out of your body) and then evaporates just like your sweat would (drawing more heat away)... and for most of you, the rate at which you can dump water on yourself exceeds the rate at which you can sweat (debateable for me).

Think about it like this.  When someone needs to have their body cooled fast for medical purposes, they don't say "don't touch let the sweat do it's job"... rather, they dump cold water on them (or immerse them in it, but the principle should be the same).

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