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2008-05-20 10:28 PM
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CBarnes - 2008-05-20 7:30 PM Well it is not on your list but I am a 1911 guy. A nice Colt or Springfield could be a consideration but it does depend on what you want/need it for.

I don't argue the 1911 is the fighting pistol--even now a full century since its introduction. And I still own a number of Series 70 and Series 80 1911's myself.

But, I do not recommend a 1911 for a first-time gun owner for self-defense. It has a manual of operations (single-action, meant to be carried in Condition 1 [cocked-and-locked]) that isn't nearly as user-friendly as a Glock. Just my $0.02.



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2008-05-20 11:52 PM
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I would like to second the definitly get the training and for the home gun if your wife doesn't shoot a lot or whatever get a revolver simple point and pull the trigger no decocker no safety and such very simple in an emergency. but for yourself but only with training i like glock h$k sig. also for home i second the shotgun with the light.
2008-05-21 2:26 AM
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I currently carry a Glock 21 on duty and the Glock 26 off duty. I have had Sig P226 .40 cal and the Glock 23C also in .40. I like the Glocks and have never had any problems with them. The 26 allows me to carry a full 10 rounds in the mag. I carry small of the back when off duty and have never had a problem concealing it.

ASA if you are ever in the Pinellas area let me know. I'll shoot with you anytime.
2008-05-21 6:12 AM
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2008-05-21 8:15 AM
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Someone in an earlier post mentioned Gunsite training.  I would recommend anyone carrying read a Jeff Cooper volume. He advocates the 1911. I have also seen many more Accidental discharges with the Glock than any other weapon.  I carry a Glock 23 off duty, but I am very comfortable and familar as I have been doing this for 12 years and it is second nature. There was a video of a DEA agent shooting himself in the foot during a class room presentation a few years beack with a Glock. I am sure it is still on Youtube....
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2008-05-21 8:24 AM
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guncollector - 2008-05-20 6:31 PM

are first class, but their USP have big and blocky grips for me--its just that a Glock IMO makes a pistol to fit just about any individual's self-defense requirements without breaking the bank.

Dude!  You think the USP grips are more blocky than a Glock??  Hehe I know to each their own but the don't call them Blocks for nothing!  ;^ )

Back to the original question.  As other have said you need to try several out.  Alot will come down to individual ergonomics and how you plan on using it.  For instance many swear by Glocks but I don't like the grip angle and I prefer a single action trigger pull. 

 

2008-05-21 8:26 AM
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gator22 - 2008-05-21 8:15 AM Someone in an earlier post mentioned Gunsite training.  I would recommend anyone carrying read a Jeff Cooper volume. He advocates the 1911. I have also seen many more Accidental discharges with the Glock than any other weapon.  I carry a Glock 23 off duty, but I am very comfortable and familar as I have been doing this for 12 years and it is second nature. There was a video of a DEA agent shooting himself in the foot during a class room presentation a few years beack with a Glock. I am sure it is still on Youtube....

"I am the only one in this room professional enough to use this Glock .40..............BANG" 

 

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2008-05-21 10:53 AM
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I bought a S&W Sigma .40 and it's the same as the Glock and a lot less expensive. S&W had to pay some kind of patent infringement fee for making it. It's a super nice gun. I got mine for $329 back in December and S&W was offering a $50 rebate and an extra 14 rnd. clip. I used it to qualify for my concealed license and shot a perfect score. It will drive nails!!
2008-05-21 1:05 PM
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CBarnes - 2008-05-20 9:35 PM

Well if it is Home Defense a 20Ga pump home defense gun with a mounted light is very hard to beat and a lot safer than a hand gun in the house but I am sure others may disagree.


x3 (someone else mentioned a shotgun)

Easy to use and hard to miss (unless you're shooting at dove or duck.....those b@stards...)

Plus....if you're caught unprepared and don't have any shells, one pump on a shotgun will make ANYONE stop and think about what they're going to do next.


2008-05-21 1:50 PM
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bradleyd3 - 2008-05-21 11:05 AM
CBarnes - 2008-05-20 9:35 PM Well if it is Home Defense a 20Ga pump home defense gun with a mounted light is very hard to beat and a lot safer than a hand gun in the house but I am sure others may disagree.
x3 (someone else mentioned a shotgun) Easy to use and hard to miss (unless you're shooting at dove or duck.....those b@stards...) Plus....if you're caught unprepared and don't have any shells, one pump on a shotgun will make ANYONE stop and think about what they're going to do next.

While I don't disagree about the efficacy of a shotgun for home-defense, I will give you a few observations I've made from years of competitive 3-Gun shooting:

1) contrary to popular opinion, its REAL EASY to miss with a shotgun, more so at indoor ranges. The typical range of 20-30 feet of a home, means your pattern has not had the opportunity to open-up more than 5-6 inches--even out of an 18-in. barrel. Add adrenaline and low-light, and you have a recipe for an easy miss--I've seen this repeated time after time under competition conditions (myself included)--which is a good indicator of what happen if/when the real sh*t hits the fan.

2) acknowledging the limited pattern-expansion of indoor ranges, and after much practice and experimentation, we (our shooting club) found #4-Shot to be the perfect blend of knockdown power and limiting wall-penetration.

3) with the exception of shooting from barricade, a shotgun can actual be a detriment for investigating "bumps in the night" around the house. The long barrel makes you very susceptible to disarmament, without some rudimentary (I'd argue extensive) training. Just my $0.02.

4) one other consideration is that a shotgun requires two-hands to operate properly, which doesn't leave a hand to hold a phone while calling for help. Not an issue if you have another person in the household to call.

5) a mounted tactical-light is almost mandatory. Be advised that such a light may cost you almost as much as the shotgun itself.

HTH!



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