Asthma Athletes....how do you manage?
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2008-05-27 4:42 PM |
Expert 997 Littleton, CO | Subject: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I have a history of asthma which has been mostly dormant until this spring. The chronic cough, wheezing, and "rubbing" feeling in my lungs have returned. I also feel as if I have decreased lung capacity and have a harder time breathing during workouts. I did have a chest x-ray done to rule out other problems. I am currently using Advair(250/ 50) twice a day and my Albuterol inhaler before exercise. If I need it, I do an albuterol neb. Does anybody have a better management plan that works for them? Do allergy meds make a difference? I also find that the albuterol right before exercise shoots my heart rate up, which is a crappy way to start a workout. I haven't seen much improvement with my current plan. I'd love everyone's input! Mel |
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2008-05-27 4:51 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Extreme Veteran 305 Lewisville | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I've had asthma since childhood (37 now) and just take my Albuterol inhaler before each session. I've only had one bad attack, and that was a few weeks ago. I forgot to take it and went out for a intense run. About 5 mins in I had to turn around and walk home. So now I take it beforehand regardless of how bad my allergies are at the time. |
2008-05-27 5:05 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Expert 1244 New York | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I take advair, but only before I work out, and since the weather sometimes affects my asthma, I can determine which days I need it and which days I don't. I also take Claritin on a regular basis and that seems to help. A (potential) miracle drug has been Singulair, which treats allergies and asthma. My ex had serious problems and then he took that, and it really made a world of difference. The only caveat is that there was a recent study saying Singulair could be linked to depression and suicide (matter of fact, the ex recently stopped taking it because he was feeling down and "off" when he took it, not physically, just mentally and emotionally). So, just play it safe. Also, you can keep a diary of sorts on when the asthma hits--does the weather make a difference, time of day, where you work out, how hard you work out, etc. This might key into what's causing the sudden change. If I were you, I'd ask your pulmonologist for some advice. Maybe you've gotten used to the dosage, maybe you need to try different drugs? You should not be getting wheezy if you're taking your meds. Avoid taking your emergency inhaler as much as possible, you shoudn't be "treating" asthma with the emergency inhaler...that's bad and it's not a good way to manage the condition at all! Good luck! |
2008-05-27 5:25 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Expert 866 | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? How soon before allergy season do you take advair? Advair has two components to it: 1) an inhaled steroid which can take up to 1-2 months before an appreciable benefit is noted and 2) a long acting bronchodilator (servent) which can be used no more than twice daily. For those who take inhaled steroids prior to allergy season, you should be starting this at least 4 weeks prior to allow the anti-inflammatory benefit to take effect. Less inflammation, hopefully leads to less bronchospasm, less symptoms, hence less need for rescue inhaler (er. proventil). Advair tastes bad, and needs religious use of it to maximize benefit. Please check with your doctor if your symptoms are not currently being controlled on your current advair dose. |
2008-05-27 5:42 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Expert 1288 Hatboro, PA | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I have asthma secondary to allergies and exercise induced asthma. I take Zyrtec, Singulair, Symbicort, and Nasanex. I also use an albuterol inhaler prior to exercise. I used to get the high blood pressure after using the inhaler, but that has gone away with time. Now, when I use the inhaler, I notice very minimal changes in my blood pressure. Since my asthma is mostly due to the allergies, I started allergy shots in the hopes of reducing my medication list. The albuterol will most likely always be needed for the exercise part, but I have had times in the past when I didn't need the albuterol at all. Like everyone else, I suggest talking to your doctor. If you haven't already done so, see a specialist who might be able to help you more than a primary care physician. |
2008-05-27 6:14 PM in reply to: #1427063 |
Expert 938 Haddam, CT | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Daily: Allegra, Flonase + Metatoprol to control high BP (from wheezing and gasping for air when I'm running). Plus: Xopenax inhaler on occasion. I have to be really patient with it. If the air quality is really bad and I'm gasping for air some days, I try to find something else to do - weights, power yoga, cycling indoors, etc. |
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2008-05-27 6:36 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Veteran 243 | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? It's tough. If your asthma is chronic and not exercise-induced, you need to talk to your physician because you shouldn't need to use albuterol for every training session. I use Flovent 2x daily, loratidine during allergy season and albuterol for rescue. I've had good results with this, but I'm starting to see some increases in my rescue-inhaler use (I've really only used it 4-5 times a year - yes YEAR - and not necessarily while exercising). Try to identify some of your other triggers, too, and avoid them. Mine include cold, dry air; high ozone levels; and lack of sleep. Also, walnut pollen causes breakthrough attacks and no amount of loratidine + Flovent will address walnut season! I stay out of the orchards during pollination. Good luck and talk to your doc! Asthma is very treatable these days, even for athletes. |
2008-05-27 7:09 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Regular 96 Keller, TX | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Keep track of what your triggers are and avoid them when possible. I have found that with running and biking that the first 20min need to be lower intensity (warmup) then get after it. As far as meds go I really only have a rescue inhaler. I used to need it daily before tris. (4 years ago) Then as time went on with increased activity I started needing it less, now it is often weeks that go by between needing it. (sometimes months) My doc asked what i was doing that made the difference at a checkup and when i told him tris he looked at me funny and said that he would not have thought that anything requiring intense excercise would have done it, but he could not argue with the numbers of 1) inhalers he had to prescribe and 2) airflow test results. So much of this depends on your triggers, how severe your asthma is, what you doc says etc. etc. Whatever works stick with it. |
2008-05-27 7:41 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Master 1399 Wisteria Lane | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I take Zyrtec, Nasonex and Albuterol as needed. Since I have started the allergy meds my usage of Albuterol has decreased significantly. I do use the Albuterol before OWS just so that I mentally know my lungs are clear but other then that just carry it with me in case I need it. I hope you figure out a plan. Good luck! |
2008-05-27 8:47 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
82 | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Colomingle - 2008-05-27 4:42 PM I have a history of asthma which has been mostly dormant until this spring. The chronic cough, wheezing, and "rubbing" feeling in my lungs have returned. I also feel as if I have decreased lung capacity and have a harder time breathing during workouts. I did have a chest x-ray done to rule out other problems. I am currently using Advair(250/ 50) twice a day and my Albuterol inhaler before exercise. If I need it, I do an albuterol neb. Does anybody have a better management plan that works for them? Do allergy meds make a difference? I also find that the albuterol right before exercise shoots my heart rate up, which is a crappy way to start a workout. I haven't seen much improvement with my current plan. I'd love everyone's input! Mel As a kid I had huge difficulty with breathing. When I have a cold at my current age (being 25) I can breath better then I could most of the days when I was a kid. On the bad days I could barely breath enough to stay conscious. Sometimes I couldn't even sit in a classroom because I felt I could pass out any moment, I stood up and left because I knew that I could breath a little bit better when I was standing outside (standing helped, outside is more oxygen). Not only the lack of oxygen was a problem, I also felt very tired because my breathing muscles had to work so hard (nowadays I have very strong breathing muscles). Even through my mouth I had difficulty with breathing and I used to wake up with a sore throat, I had a combination of breathing problems: a lot of allergies (dust, nature, cigarettes) and also asthma. Though I'm not totally cured yet from my allergies it's not that serious anymore that it diminishes my capacity to function normally. I do still notice it when I breath in the tiniest amount of smoke even before I can detect he smell (slight feeling of burning in my eys and more slime in my nose), last weekend I discoverd I still can't tolerate some trees but the difference is I can always breath in sufficient oxygen, even when I have a nasty cold and the effects don't last that long anymore. The most nasty effect of my allergy right now is the airco in an auditorium, it hurts my eyes somehow comparable to when you have dust in your eyes. I still have a mild form of asthma.
Luckily I don't need any medicine right now. The astma does hinder me a bit but it doesn't compromise my ability to sport a lot. Only with swimming I notice that I need more time to recuperate after having hold my breath because I can't get rid of the CO2 as fast as other people can. I can very easily swim a lap under water, even without jumping or pushing at the start. I can hold my breath for 140-150 seconds. Only, after I have done something like that I need more time to recover then most people.
Edited by Maasen 2008-05-27 9:01 PM |
2008-05-27 8:59 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Regular 113 Memphis, TN | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I am a sports medicine physical therapist and an asthmatic. From my experience, I would also suggest going through some breathing exercises called pursed lipped breathing. It is a technique that is used with any person with chronic pulmonary issues. To start, work on taking deep breathes in through the nose and with your lips in the shape as if you were going to whistle blow out slowly and lightly (not hard enought to blow out a candle) for a count of 20 to 30 seconds. This gives the lunges more time to absorb oxygen before it is abrubtyl exhaled. Over time this will improve you breath quality and you can use this technique during you training and events. I find this very helpful and so do many of my clients. |
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2008-05-27 9:14 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
82 | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Colomingle - 2008-05-27 4:42 PM I am currently using Advair(250/ 50) twice a day and my Albuterol inhaler before exercise. If I need it, I do an albuterol neb. Does anybody have a better management plan that works for them? Do allergy meds make a difference? I also find that the albuterol right before exercise shoots my heart rate up, which is a crappy way to start a workout. The albuterol binds shortly to the β2 receptor and stimulates it (agonist). The β2 receptor is one of the receptors which is being activate by hormones like adrenalin. See for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenergic_receptor#.CE.B22_receptor As a kid I breathed in a lot like hubcitytriguy describes, it helps in my experience. Edited by Maasen 2008-05-27 9:20 PM |
2008-05-27 9:17 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Veteran 582 Golden, CO | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Up until January, I was using albuterol before exercise almost all the time. I started taking Flovent in January and my use of albuterol has significantly decreased. I use allergy meds when needed, but they seem to have little to no effect on the asthma. |
2008-05-27 9:21 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I take Advair (250/50) twice per day all year round. I only use albuterol in emergencies. I always carry it while I'm exercising. As long as my asthma is under control, I don't have to use albuterol before exercise. Part of keeping it under control is also keeping allergy symptoms under control through the spring and summer because allergies are a big trigger for me. If you have problems with albuterol, you can investigate other emergency inhalers. My sister has had really good luck with xoponex as an alternate emergency inhaler. |
2008-05-27 9:23 PM in reply to: #1427508 |
82 | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? moneyman - 2008-05-27 9:17 PM Up until January, I was using albuterol before exercise almost all the time. I started taking Flovent in January and my use of albuterol has significantly decreased. I use allergy meds when needed, but they seem to have little to no effect on the asthma. Are you certain about your diagnosis? I know from my study that COPD is often misdiagnoses, especially when you don't go to a lung-specialist. The different diseases give very similar symptoms which make it difficult to diagnose. Edited by Maasen 2008-05-27 9:24 PM |
2008-05-27 9:24 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Champion 5850 Michigan | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Asmanex 1-2x per day (depends on if I want sooper clear lungs and headache or just pretty clear lungs and no headache) and Albuterol before exercise. during high allergy seasons I also do nasonex and singulair. |
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2008-05-27 9:50 PM in reply to: #1427499 |
Science Nerd 28760 Redwood City, California | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Maasen - 2008-05-27 10:14 PM Colomingle - 2008-05-27 4:42 PM I am currently using Advair(250/ 50) twice a day and my Albuterol inhaler before exercise. If I need it, I do an albuterol neb. Does anybody have a better management plan that works for them? Do allergy meds make a difference? I also find that the albuterol right before exercise shoots my heart rate up, which is a crappy way to start a workout. The albuterol binds shortly to the β2 receptor and stimulates it (agonist). The β2 receptor is one of the receptors which is being activate by hormones like adrenalin. See for more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenergic_receptor#.CE.B22_receptor As a kid I breathed in a lot like hubcitytriguy describes, it helps in my experience. Some people have very adverse reactions to albuterol including an elevated heart rate, so it's entirely likely that you can experience that symptom from it. |
2008-05-27 10:15 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Veteran 238 Oviedo, FL | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I use my Advair 500/50 and take Singulair January-June (my bad season). Then, I use my Advair 250/50 and take Zyrtec D July-December (maintence). My allergist said the Singulair helps with allergies as well as asthma. He also said I could take zyrtec with the singulair as well but I find the singulair works fine alone. I also take my rescue inhaler before I work out if I'm having a tougher day. I've only been diagnosed for one year, and it's quite the regimen to breathe sometimes. Hope this helps! |
2008-05-27 10:19 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Veteran 306 Dallas | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I'll make this short and sweet. I have environmental asthma also. Three years ago I started on Singulair. WOW. . . I have decreased my Actifed usage by 95% and my Albuterol inhailer by 60%. Get your doctor to prescribe Singular. Oh, and by the way. You need to use it for at least a month before you realize that it is actually working, and you're not just having a few good days.
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2008-05-27 11:38 PM in reply to: #1426919 |
Expert 997 Littleton, CO | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Thanks for all your input and experiences. It seems I need to visit my doctor again and talk about some other meds. I appreciate you sharing your experiences with me. I am also going to start working on the pursed lip breathing. I already do something like it, with a forced, sharp exhale when I'm feeling winded. Mel |
2008-05-28 8:17 AM in reply to: #1426919 |
Expert 655 Muncie, IN | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I use Advair and take it regularly. Also, I have allergies as well and take OTC Claritin for it which I think helps prevent attacks. This year has been horrible and nothing seems to be working well. I have had to take my albuterol more this year than the last several years combined. I just love that burning sensation in my chest on my hard runs!!! |
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2008-05-28 8:45 AM in reply to: #1426919 |
Veteran 257 St. Paul, MN | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Asthmane 1x/day, Nasonex 1x/day when the sneezing starts going and Xopenex inhaler when needed. One of my biggest triggers was mites. Once I put allergy barrier covers on my pillows, I noticed a huge difference. If mites are your issue, PM me and I'll give you a bunch of other pointers. Another thing to watch, are you exerting yourself too much during exercise? I used to need my inhaler constantly during exercise and then I started HR training and don't go above zone 3. Since then, I have had minimal problems with my asthma during exercise. Yes, my fitness gains aren't as great as "normal" people, but at the same time, I'm not having breathing issues that set me back even farther than if I take it at a more manageable pace. Build up your fitness slowly and eventually the exercised induced asthma will start to become more manageable. |
2008-05-28 9:36 AM in reply to: #1427635 |
Extreme Veteran 495 Stamford, CT | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? I have environment and sports induced asthma. I have had great success with Singulair and a new inhaler called Symbicort. |
2008-05-28 10:31 AM in reply to: #1426919 |
Expert 1231 B'ham | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? During allergy season I take Asmanex and Veramyst 1x daily. Albuterol prn. Outside of allergy season I only take the albuterol. I'd tried Allegra (AllerClear is the generic form, both are OTC) to treat both with pretty good results the first season, but virtually zero results the next year. I've been doing the Asmanex/Veramyst combo for two seasons now. Since I started training for tris, my use of the albuterol has decreased significantly and my lung capacity feels much greater. I should bust out my peak flow meter to quantify that assumption. |
2008-05-29 11:01 AM in reply to: #1426919 |
Elite 3067 Cheesehead, WI | Subject: RE: Asthma Athletes....how do you manage? Wow! Looks like you are in good company OP! And oh yeah, I have EIA and use pretty much what has already been said. I also find that like someone else said...I am better if I ease into it vs trying too fast too soon...and if my sinuses are acting up, I am better off taking an antihistamine as well to keep the juices at bay. And let your doc know if something ain't working.... if like mine, will tweak the meds to suit your symptoms. Good luck and happy training! |
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